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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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 Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:20 pm
thenerdqueen Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen Jungle Soldier dronze So you think that an outright violation of privacy rights, and somthing along the line of raping the bill of rights makes it right? guess what, with enough editing, anyone can make a convincing case for calling another person a terrorist. I don't buy how that is a legal or legitimate way to apprehend these supposed "terrorists". just because I buy a can of gas and a bag of miracle grow on the same day doesn't mean I'm making explosives, it means I'm mowing my lawn. personally I wish the United States government could intercept every phone call, email, and piece of mail sent. If that pisses you off well oh well because I for one am not doing anything that the goverment is going to care about, I doubt it but there is the possibility that the government IS monitoring me you know why? Because everyday I log onto youtube and search for tags such as Military. Helicopter. Military aircraft, and Bomb. Okay the only reason I search for such things because I have a thirst for knowledge concerning every thing about our U.S. military, and I am glad that I live in a country that has the technology to monitor such things to keep the citizens of my country safe. I'd rather be free than have a totalitarian government stalking my every move. Not only is it against our rights as Americans, but protecting and asserting these rights has been one of the major justifications for most, if not all, of the United States' wars. What did the millions of men (and some women) die for if not freedom? Then I ask you... would you rather be dead from a terrorist attack or live under a totalitarion govt.? I'd rather die than be stuck in a cage. well not me to me a crappy life is better than no life at all
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:22 pm
Quote: I pity that you believe that the hive of greed, corruption, and self-interest that is our government is deserving of so much trust. I pity you that you can't make a leap of faith every once in a while
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:00 pm
faith is for the gullible. I prefer to see some sort of evidence from a person or group that shows I can trust them before making that decision.
I choose to assess, and decide, rather than just go on blind faith with a system that seems to screw anyone it can to line it's own pockets.
You go ahead and put your blind faith into this system, as I'm sure you have in other major governing factors of your life, theocratic or otherwise, I prefer to do my own research and come to my own conclusions.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that you think abstainance-only sex education programs are accurate and effective, that al Queida and Saddam Hussein WEREN'T our fault, and that Saudi Arabia, as a nation and government can actually be trusted an an ally in the middle east.
well, that's what I'm going to assume until you can prove me right or wrong, that is.
Your ignorance astounds me, Jungle Soldier, although just leave it to a republican to choose what they want to see and portray for the masses.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:25 am
Hey hey, not all republicans are bad. The Democrats are just as corrupt.
The government DOES monitor all communications for 'hot' words. Next time you are on the phone, yell "nuclear terrorism" as loud as you can. Then you can claim you now have a file at the NSA.
Oh, adn you forgot the third option in the "dead or under totalitarian government" question. Rebellion. There are enough people willimgto do so that a totalitarian government can't rule. That is, until they get that damned Bill of Rights out of their way. Founding Fathers 1, Today's Government 0.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:53 am
I'm not making a generalization about the corruption amongst the republicans, I'm refering to the selective vision so prevelant amongst them. If they don't want to see something, or hear something, then it didn't happen or exist.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:09 pm
From everything I've seen, the Dems are just the same. Except the republicans hae much funner fundraisers (a machine gun shoot, as an example. I forget which candidate. Raised a huge ruckus though.).
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:02 pm
uryu ishida From everything I've seen, the Dems are just the same. Except the republicans hae much funner fundraisers (a machine gun shoot, as an example. I forget which candidate. Raised a huge ruckus though.). I would gladly contribute to a campaign for the opportunity to fire an automatic rifle. that would be AWESOME!
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:10 pm
dronze I choose to assess, and decide, rather than just go on blind faith with a system that seems to screw anyone it can to line it's own pockets. okay you need to be realistic... when you boil down to it life is essentially a kill or be killed world... I put my trust in an orginization that will do what it needs to do to survive... in life the only way you will get ahead is to undercut the those below you to ensure that they don't get ahead of you. That's life... get used to it... organizations have to screw people to get ahead and if you have a problem with this then I suggest you give up your car insurance, house insurance, life insurance, health insurance because that is basically the founding principle of any insurance agency. Insurance agency's main goal is to avoid paying out, and its a smart business.
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:07 pm
I need to be realistic?!
The system I'm referring to is our federal government, not some corporation, not some dogmatic series of ideals, our own government.
you know, the whole "for the people, by the people" thing that is supposed to be the cornerstone of the way our government works? They work for US, the citizens of this nation, or they're supposed to.
As far as insurance goes, anyone who can read with anything higher than an 8th grade reading level can cut through the layers of legalese that dictate insurance policies and what they cover... in fact, they're required to disclose that information.
so, might I recommend that you try that argument again... perhaps without proving me right about you for a second time in the same thread?
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:52 am
dronze I need to be realistic?! The system I'm referring to is our federal government, not some corporation, not some dogmatic series of ideals, our own government. you know, the whole "for the people, by the people" thing that is supposed to be the cornerstone of the way our government works? They work for US, the citizens of this nation, or they're supposed to. As far as insurance goes, anyone who can read with anything higher than an 8th grade reading level can cut through the layers of legalese that dictate insurance policies and what they cover... in fact, they're required to disclose that information. so, might I recommend that you try that argument again... perhaps without proving me right about you for a second time in the same thread? A SERIES OF IDEALS? I'll tell you what an ideal is an ideal is a government that is not corrupt and its an ideal because it flat out does not exist and never will.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:06 am
Sounds made up if you ask me. Where the hell is Jharkhand and where did the story come from?
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:01 am
professorB Sounds made up if you ask me. Where the hell is Jharkhand and where did the story come from? jharkhand is a state in India
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:18 pm
Jungle Soldier dronze I need to be realistic?! The system I'm referring to is our federal government, not some corporation, not some dogmatic series of ideals, our own government. you know, the whole "for the people, by the people" thing that is supposed to be the cornerstone of the way our government works? They work for US, the citizens of this nation, or they're supposed to. As far as insurance goes, anyone who can read with anything higher than an 8th grade reading level can cut through the layers of legalese that dictate insurance policies and what they cover... in fact, they're required to disclose that information. so, might I recommend that you try that argument again... perhaps without proving me right about you for a second time in the same thread? A SERIES OF IDEALS? I'll tell you what an ideal is an ideal is a government that is not corrupt and its an ideal because it flat out does not exist and never will. Are you just selectively reading snippets of my posts? Like I said, I'm NOT talking about those things, I'm talking about our government. I refuse to put blind faith into our government, all I can put any faith into, as far as they go, is that our government, at any level higher than county level, will ALWAYS face down a monumental problem that could have been avoided entirely with a bit of forethought and a lot less money flying in their faces, blocking their view. You told me that I should make a leap of faith, but I'm not willing to put my liberty in the hands of these greedy, self serving politicians. I don't trust anybody who spends millions of dollars to get a job that wouln't pay it back on their salary in the time they're doing it for.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:52 am
professorB Sounds made up if you ask me. Where the hell is Jharkhand and where did the story come from? go to www.drudgereport.com and search for the article if you need proof
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:54 am
dronze Jungle Soldier dronze I need to be realistic?! The system I'm referring to is our federal government, not some corporation, not some dogmatic series of ideals, our own government. you know, the whole "for the people, by the people" thing that is supposed to be the cornerstone of the way our government works? They work for US, the citizens of this nation, or they're supposed to. As far as insurance goes, anyone who can read with anything higher than an 8th grade reading level can cut through the layers of legalese that dictate insurance policies and what they cover... in fact, they're required to disclose that information. so, might I recommend that you try that argument again... perhaps without proving me right about you for a second time in the same thread? A SERIES OF IDEALS? I'll tell you what an ideal is an ideal is a government that is not corrupt and its an ideal because it flat out does not exist and never will. Are you just selectively reading snippets of my posts? Like I said, I'm NOT talking about those things, I'm talking about our government. I refuse to put blind faith into our government, all I can put any faith into, as far as they go, is that our government, at any level higher than county level, will ALWAYS face down a monumental problem that could have been avoided entirely with a bit of forethought and a lot less money flying in their faces, blocking their view. You told me that I should make a leap of faith, but I'm not willing to put my liberty in the hands of these greedy, self serving politicians. I don't trust anybody who spends millions of dollars to get a job that wouln't pay it back on their salary in the time they're doing it for. I for one trust the government completely because I realize that the government has access to information I don't and I trust that they are using thier best judgement based on the information at hand.
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