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 Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:35 am
Oh yeah, and btw -
If you're a christian, you should date a christian. The Bible teaches, as does experiance and stats, that when you date someone who is of a different religious belief, the relationship will fall apart in no time. Well, maybe not in "no time." But fairly quickly.
And you see, it should be easy to tell another christian that you dont want sex til after marriage =]
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:46 pm
ah that's where I feel that I have to step in and be the person that thinks differently....since I'm a liberal and all XD....now I believe that you shouldn't just limit your dating to only Christians because well Jesus didn't came here to help people that believed him did he?...he came to those who were suffering and that were like...in need for him...now helping people and dating people are two totally different mibs....ANYWAYS what I'm trying to get at is that you don't have to limit yourself to just christians...sure the relationship will be hard but if you truly love somebody with all your heart...you can over come any obstical......now if they tell you that you can't be a christian...then yeah say "no....you can't force me to back away from Christ" and if they say "it's either me or your so called Jesus" then throw them out of your lives...because JESUS comes first....but if they respect Jesus and respect your christian beliefs I say there is nothing wrong with dating them...because you always have time for to save them....
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:34 pm
mibster ah that's where I feel that I have to step in and be the person that thinks differently....since I'm a liberal and all XD....now I believe that you shouldn't just limit your dating to only Christians because well Jesus didn't came here to help people that believed him did he?...he came to those who were suffering and that were like...in need for him...now helping people and dating people are two totally different mibs....ANYWAYS what I'm trying to get at is that you don't have to limit yourself to just christians...sure the relationship will be hard but if you truly love somebody with all your heart...you can over come any obstical......now if they tell you that you can't be a christian...then yeah say "no....you can't force me to back away from Christ" and if they say "it's either me or your so called Jesus" then throw them out of your lives...because JESUS comes first....but if they respect Jesus and respect your christian beliefs I say there is nothing wrong with dating them...because you always have time for to save them.... Here's your receipt, sir razz .
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:04 pm
*sighs and shakes head* look a lot of things contradict it's self in the bible...for example in the old testament it says "give an eye for an eye" BUT in the new testament it says "turn the other cheek" so which do you listen to?....you listen to Jesus...and even though it says that jesus said do not touch things that are unclean. I STILL think that Jesus would want us to love everybody...INCLUDING non Christians...because there is a chance for us to change thier hearts....I'm not saying that the bible is wrong....I'm just saying that we can't seperate ourselves from non christians because Jesus wouldn't want that for us....he would want us to like...be their for them and help them....in the bible Jesus gave the "Good Samaritan" story...I am very familiar with it because my church is called "the good samaritan united methodist church" NOW when the dude was beaten up...the priest walked past him because he was "unclean" and another person pasted him since the preist passed the guy....BUT the Good samaritan stopped and helped the person covered in blood EVEN THOUGH HE WAS CONSIDERED UNCLEAN.......he cared for the poor man like he was his friend....now if a Samaritan can do that surely a christian can help an "unclean" person....now can't we?....I don't know I just don't have the heart to say that a person is unclean and not help them at all...
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:32 am
mibster *sighs and shakes head* look a lot of things contradict it's self in the bible...for example in the old testament it says "give an eye for an eye" BUT in the new testament it says "turn the other cheek" so which do you listen to?....you listen to Jesus...and even though it says that jesus said do not touch things that are unclean. I STILL think that Jesus would want us to love everybody...INCLUDING non Christians...because there is a chance for us to change thier hearts [supposed] "contradictions" are translational issues/ discrepancies between manuscripts/ or a better lack of knowledge concerning scripture. If you have qualms with the verses I provided, have a look see at 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - or are there problems with these also?..."eye for an eye" is part of the old covenant, and 'turning the other check' is part of the new covenant: the covenants are SEPARATE. Albeit, the NT is the succession of the OT. Yes, Jesus does care for every lost soul as well every saved soul. He asks all of His elect to pray for laborers of the harvest (Matt 9:37, 38.); additionally 'calling' every Christian to be a witness (Acts 1:8.). Although, do you understand what is meant by "Do not be yoked together with [X]"? "yoked" according to the American Heritage Dictionary (contextually matched to scripture [there is further meaning given in the definition, but that left out does not concern the context of our discussion]) and the Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words (any specific meaning is dependant on context) is as follows:
American Heritage Dictionary & Vines NT Greek Definitions A.H.D.: yoke (yōk) Pronunciation Key n. A crossbar with two U-shaped pieces that encircle the necks of a pair of oxen or other draft animals working together. pl. yoke or yokes A pair of draft animals, such as oxen, joined by a yoke. A bar used with a double harness to connect the collar of each horse to the pole of a wagon or coach. Vines: YOKE, YOKED A. Nouns. 1. zugos (
zugo/$
, NT:221 cool , "a yoke," serving to couple two things together, is used (1) metaphorically, (a) of submission to authority, Matt 11:29,30, of Christ's "yoke," not simply imparted by Him but shared with Him; (b) of bondage, Acts 15:10 and Gal 5:1, of bondage to the Law as a supposed means of salvation; (c) of bond service to masters, 1 Tim 6:1; (2) to denote "a balance," Rev 6:5. See BALANCE.
2. zeugos (
zeu=go$
, NT:2201), "a pair of animals," Luke 14:19. See PAIR.
B. Verb.
heterozugeo (
e(terozuge/w
, NT:2086), "to be unequally yoked" (heteros, "another of a different sort," and A, No. 1), is used metaphorically in 2 Cor 6:14.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words, Copyright © 1985, Thomas Nelson Publishers.)
To be yoked is to be 'joined together,' "Do not be yoked together with" is to say 'do not be joined together with.' With the portrayal of this in 2 Corinthians 6:14 a metaphorical one. Consider this: two oxen are yoked together in preparation to plow a field. The first, is well fed and willing to work - full well knowing what is expected of it. The second, is not well fed and unwilling to work - even though it full well knows what is expected of it. The first oxen attempts to plow a straight line, while the second attempts to make its way to where it will find food: and as a result a straight line is not plowed when it is the only thing acceptable - a straight line. Better-yet: "2 Cor 6:14-16 14 [Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.] For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols?NIV Quote: ....I'm not saying that the bible is wrong....I'm just saying that we can't seperate ourselves from non christians because Jesus wouldn't want that for us....he would want us to like...be their for them and help them.... As a Chirstian retains the etiquette of just that, a Christian: he or she is not separate, but doing as Christ instructed. i.e. being a witness/ proclaiming the Gospel. Quote: in the bible Jesus gave the "Good Samaritan" story...I am very familiar with it because my church is called "the good samaritan united methodist church" NOW when the dude was beaten up...the priest walked past him because he was "unclean" and another person pasted him since the preist passed the guy....BUT the Good samaritan stopped and helped the person covered in blood EVEN THOUGH HE WAS CONSIDERED UNCLEAN.......he cared for the poor man like he was his friend....now if a Samaritan can do that surely a christian can help an "unclean" person....now can't we?....I don't know I just don't have the heart to say that a person is unclean and not help them at all... Me thinks you need to pay more attention to the parable.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:12 am
Hm, but this is turning into a debate, and we both can agree it is a 'no-no' for the guild forum: this should be continued (if willing/ able) in the debate subforum sweatdrop .
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:35 am
*nods* okey dokey non smokey 4laugh
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:04 pm
mibster *nods* okey dokey non smokey 4laugh Was that a nod in agreement with my post, or the taking of this discussion to the debate subforum wink ?
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:30 am
I'll nod in agreement with your posts XD
There's nothing contradictory in the Bible. It all makes sence when you study it. There's no way you could possibly through away what IQ has shown you as a "contradictory" Mibs, sorreh.
If there were any contradictories in the bible, then you'd have to believe that you could throw ANYTHING in the Bible away for a "contraction" and, in theory, do whatever you please.
God doesn't make room for such things. His word is complete wink
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:10 am
I know that this topic is dead and that my post is way outdated, but I had to post anyways.
1) What the Bible says: I Corinthians 7:1,"No concernng the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
Simple. Men should not "touch" women, and women should not be "touching" men. The Scripture was addressing men, but remember back in that time girls weren't wild and outgoing. At all. It was the men who did the addressing. Don't look at people for an example. Look at Bible couples. Abraham and Sarah did not do anything sexually until they were married. The same with Joseph and Mary, and Joseph was thinking about putting Mary aside when he found out that she was pregnant. Not only was commiting adultery a sin (which she did not commit), but a woman giving up her virginaty before marriage is not God's plan at all. God intended to have one man and woman, once married to become one flesh. Adem and Eve, a prime example.
As far as dating goes... To remain on the safe side and out of temptations path don't go anywhere alone with your 'girlfriend'/'boyfriend'. Don't even double date. It might be tempting if one couple starts doing something they ought not and then you jump onto the notion with your own partner. The person your dating should get to know your family most definately. There should be Mother/Father time with the courter, as well as family time. Parents shouldn't place any trust in their children when dating. There are too many temptations. And the flesh is weak. I will say no more.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:14 am
getting hacked sucks Oh yeah, and btw - If you're a christian, you should date a christian. The Bible teaches, as does experiance and stats, that when you date someone who is of a different religious belief, the relationship will fall apart in no time. Well, maybe not in "no time." But fairly quickly. And you see, it should be easy to tell another christian that you dont want sex til after marriage =] yah coz' if u date a christian its not your luks that would bring u together or whatever its acually your love for God... xD
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:02 am
IQ-critical mibster *nods* okey dokey non smokey 4laugh Was that a nod in agreement with my post, or the taking of this discussion to the debate subforum wink ? when I said nod..I ment nod for the debate subforum >:3
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:48 am
mibster IQ-critical mibster *nods* okey dokey non smokey 4laugh Was that a nod in agreement with my post, or the taking of this discussion to the debate subforum wink ? when I said nod..I ment nod for the debate subforum >:3 Okay. . .
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:36 pm
let's get back to the dating shall we?
this is just me but I think dating is a waste of time in high school. We are only kids really and love can wait. I think if you are trying to find someone for you, then go with someone you have known for a while and you will have a more fun going on dates if you really know the person as a friend.
(people mix up dating and relationshiping, those are completely different, which one are we talking about?)
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account banning service12
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:56 pm
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