|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:13 pm
Lust herself LesbianWetDreams Lust herself LesbianWetDreams Hmm... See thats the thing I don't like. If you worship a God or Goddess (Deity) You shouldn't twist anything. www.teenwitch.com (Not related to Ravenwolf) is one of those sites that twists things. I've even confronted the lady about it. She had some bogus things about Bast being goddess of lesbians and exotic dance. When I confronted her she seemed pretty stupid. She said she'd change it and that Bast was the goddess of Exotic dancing meaning Belly dancing (Which is wrong because it was stripping. The women would lift their skirts and such) I think if you worship a deity. Worship them for who they truly are. Not for the things you think they are. You're just worshipping a different god (One that may not even exist) using their name. Bast if I recall right was the aptron of all cats, so to wroship her would be basically to worship a cats attitude or be a cat lover as far as I know, but yeah I get what you're saying. primary qualities basically right? What does the higher power stand for and is known for mainly, instead of what society has conformed them too. She's a lot more than that. She's my Patron. She was the Goddess of mothers and children because if you've seen a mother cat you know they're like the poster child of mothers. She's also the Goddess of balms I believe. But every Goddess/God/Spirit (Why am I just not using the word Deities?) has something to teach whether it may be the bad or the good. She does teach you to "Land on your feet" In a way along with like you said catish attitude. And yes. > >; I am a teenage crazy cat lady. hey you're talking to a cat lover, the only thing I ask of my Buddy at home is that he be a cat. I get exactly what you are saying though, yeah, a lot of dietes have a lot more traits then people realize but a lot gets lost over history, for instance, if Aphrodite was so nice all the time then why did she hook up with the god of war so much? And other questions that people don't ask. but either way, it's still legend and until you see otherwise spiritually you shouldn't take it so serious, and even then, you should take the legnd with a grain of salt One of my cats acts like a dog. She licks your hand, drools and snores. @.@ Crazy... As to hooking up with the god of war: I don't know perhaps opposites attract in the higher world too?
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:45 pm
Ok,
So please, let me get this straight. In this thread you are trying to get people to understand the roots of their beliefs. Nice idea, quite valid. But then you go on to say in a post or two that we shouldn't believe history or myths since those are man-made...
....
How are we supposed to know the "old ways" then? Sorry, not everyone can remember their past lives in crystal clear clarity. At the end of the day, you need history to tell you about these cultures...otherwise you'll have no idea what your doing.
Whats worse than people not knowing their religion's roots is them making their religion's history up and going from there. No, I'm sorry but people cannot re-write the history of that Greek goddess simply because they don't like the way that the myths portray her. Sorry, when you worship that god you worship the entireity of that god. You don't get to pick and chose traits to make a Sweety Pie Aphrodite, or other god. When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape, which is just as bad as people posing as pagans.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:56 pm
iolitefire When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape Yup, like how the greeks tried to turn Bast into a lunar deity -.-
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:19 pm
iolitefire Ok, So please, let me get this straight. In this thread you are trying to get people to understand the roots of their beliefs. Nice idea, quite valid. But then you go on to say in a post or two that we shouldn't believe history or myths since those are man-made... .... How are we supposed to know the "old ways" then? Sorry, not everyone can remember their past lives in crystal clear clarity. At the end of the day, you need history to tell you about these cultures...otherwise you'll have no idea what your doing. Whats worse than people not knowing their religion's roots is them making their religion's history up and going from there. No, I'm sorry but people cannot re-write the history of that Greek goddess simply because they don't like the way that the myths portray her. Sorry, when you worship that god you worship the entireity of that god. You don't get to pick and chose traits to make a Sweety Pie Aphrodite, or other god. When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape, which is just as bad as people posing as pagans. Actually i've studied Aphrodite's history. Aparrently you haven't. for one thing, there is an old legend that there are two Aphrodite's., one for each of cronus's testacles, one good one bad. Then her getting born by Cronus severed testacles is a bunch of bull in my belief since she was originally an earth goddess. People look at her as nice all the time, yet at the same time she has a history for using wiles. And you know what? I am stopping right now. Not because I don't have something else to say. Not because i'm submitting to your arguement. But because if I go any further talking to you with how you are talking then I would be dismissing josh's request to play nice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:26 pm
The old pagans worshipped women and believed they were the way to heaven, that women came first. There would be rituals where the woman would have sex with someone except they would be influenced with the spirit of a goddess or posessed by them. Sex as a form of worship. The only goddess I know of for sure where worship was set like that was Aphrodite.
As far as myths go, they're old. Most of them are older than the bible. And that book has really been rewritten. so i'm not saying don't believe the myths, but look at all sides of them and take them with a grain of salt. Ask around in prayer to the higher powers if you really want to know what's missing. Prayer and meditation get extremely misinterpreted in the general public's eye, as does paganism and christianity in my opinion.
As far as magic goes. Noone these days knows as much about it as they think they do. I may know more than you'll ever find in the books people print about magic in some areas. But by no means do I know everything.
I also think that people need to get it through their thick skulls that in this form we are not that important. As long as we are learning and growing and facing ourselves metaphorically speaking, then I don't believe the higher powers give a flying ******** what we choose to do.
History is a bit cracked as well too, anything made by man and passed down over time, nine times out of ten cannot be completely trusted. That simple.
And as far as knowing. Meditate. go back, see what you can find, keep asking questions and looking for answers. If you only go by what society today gives you on anything then you won't find anything to begin with. In my opinion not enough people look at the deeper meaning of things. And not enough people realize that paganism holds magic, therefore if you want to know about the old ways, use magic to find them. duh.......
But there. since people seem to be having a hard time understanding what I am sayihng and where I am coming from. There it is again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:55 pm
Lust herself iolitefire Ok, So please, let me get this straight. In this thread you are trying to get people to understand the roots of their beliefs. Nice idea, quite valid. But then you go on to say in a post or two that we shouldn't believe history or myths since those are man-made... .... How are we supposed to know the "old ways" then? Sorry, not everyone can remember their past lives in crystal clear clarity. At the end of the day, you need history to tell you about these cultures...otherwise you'll have no idea what your doing. Whats worse than people not knowing their religion's roots is them making their religion's history up and going from there. No, I'm sorry but people cannot re-write the history of that Greek goddess simply because they don't like the way that the myths portray her. Sorry, when you worship that god you worship the entireity of that god. You don't get to pick and chose traits to make a Sweety Pie Aphrodite, or other god. When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape, which is just as bad as people posing as pagans. for one thing, there is an old legend that there are two Aphrodite's., one for each of cronus's testacles, one good one bad. Then her getting born by Cronus severed testacles is a bunch of bull in my belief since she was originally an earth goddess. People look at her as nice all the time, yet at the same time she has a history for using wiles. And you know what? I am stopping right now. Not because I don't have something else to say. Not because i'm submitting to your arguement. But because if I go any further talking to you with how you are talking then I would be dismissing josh's request to play nice. Wow, making assumptions on my knowledge...thats a very FLCL thing to do. The fact that you made that assumption tells me a lot about your character. That's quite unfortunate, ya know? However, I'd honestly not be too quick to tell others they don't know what their talking about. In some cases, yes they do. I specialize in mythology and culture, its what I study. So yes, I do know the myths of Aphrodite. And no, she wasn't simply an earth goddess. By saying that she's just an earth goddess, you put her and several other gods into one category even though personality and style differ incredibly. Consider Ishtar, a Sumerian goddess of fertility. She ruled over the same cosmic realms as Aphrodite but her methods and actions are quite different. Anyone who says that Ishtar and Aphrodite are the same knows nothing of the religion and culture from whence they came. Also, what makes you think Aphrodite originally was an earth goddess? Do you have an proof? Any documentation? Technically, according to historical studies, it is Demeter who is based on the earth goddess archetype, not Aphrodite. Fertility isn't the only aspect of earth. You also lump all pagans into one category. Not all pagan religions are pro-woman. Some place women as inferior to men, particularly in religions of nomadic societies. Hell, look at Greek and Rome. They were openly pagan but their belief structure and culture was very misogynistic. Some pagan religions did not place women on a pedestal, they viewed them as important but valued men heavily as well. In warrior based religions, this was often the case. You say to talk myths and history with a grain of salt. But one should do the same with meditation and prayer since those are extremely subjective because they are based on one person's views.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:20 pm
iolitefire Lust herself iolitefire Ok, So please, let me get this straight. In this thread you are trying to get people to understand the roots of their beliefs. Nice idea, quite valid. But then you go on to say in a post or two that we shouldn't believe history or myths since those are man-made... .... How are we supposed to know the "old ways" then? Sorry, not everyone can remember their past lives in crystal clear clarity. At the end of the day, you need history to tell you about these cultures...otherwise you'll have no idea what your doing. Whats worse than people not knowing their religion's roots is them making their religion's history up and going from there. No, I'm sorry but people cannot re-write the history of that Greek goddess simply because they don't like the way that the myths portray her. Sorry, when you worship that god you worship the entireity of that god. You don't get to pick and chose traits to make a Sweety Pie Aphrodite, or other god. When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape, which is just as bad as people posing as pagans. for one thing, there is an old legend that there are two Aphrodite's., one for each of cronus's testacles, one good one bad. Then her getting born by Cronus severed testacles is a bunch of bull in my belief since she was originally an earth goddess. People look at her as nice all the time, yet at the same time she has a history for using wiles. And you know what? I am stopping right now. Not because I don't have something else to say. Not because i'm submitting to your arguement. But because if I go any further talking to you with how you are talking then I would be dismissing josh's request to play nice. Wow, making assumptions on my knowledge...thats a very FLCL thing to do. The fact that you made that assumption tells me a lot about your character. That's quite unfortunate, ya know? However, I'd honestly not be too quick to tell others they don't know what their talking about. In some cases, yes they do. I specialize in mythology and culture, its what I study. So yes, I do know the myths of Aphrodite. And no, she wasn't simply an earth goddess. By saying that she's just an earth goddess, you put her and several other gods into one category even though personality and style differ incredibly. Consider Ishtar, a Sumerian goddess of fertility. She ruled over the same cosmic realms as Aphrodite but her methods and actions are quite different. Anyone who says that Ishtar and Aphrodite are the same knows nothing of the religion and culture from whence they came. Also, what makes you think Aphrodite originally was an earth goddess? Do you have an proof? Any documentation? Technically, according to historical studies, it is Demeter who is based on the earth goddess archetype, not Aphrodite. Fertility isn't the only aspect of earth. You also lump all pagans into one category. Not all pagan religions are pro-woman. Some place women as inferior to men, particularly in religions of nomadic societies. Hell, look at Greek and Rome. They were openly pagan but their belief structure and culture was very misogynistic. Some pagan religions did not place women on a pedestal, they viewed them as important but valued men heavily as well. In warrior based religions, this was often the case. You say to talk myths and history with a grain of salt. But one should do the same with meditation and prayer since those are extremely subjective because they are based on one person's views. I agree with everything iolitefire just said. I am [BlkCat] and I approve of this message. (lawl, yes I know I'm lazy but if I said anything it'd basically just be rewording what she said).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:24 pm
Let's please define terms now. Please?
If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam).
On that note, the first pagans worshipped men.
Then they grew and started worshipping women.
They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable.
Fact:
Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities.
We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:13 am
Khalida Nyoka Let's please define terms now. Please? If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). On that note, the first pagans worshipped men. Then they grew and started worshipping women. They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable. Fact: Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities. We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed). See, I define pagan differently. as far as I am concernced abrahmaic religions can shove it. To me a pagan is someone who belives, or holds belief in more than one god, even though some only follow one higher power. I like your fact, though, it brings up a good point and gives me some more food for thought, And with how my mind works you already caught my interest with that now you can bet i'll think on that, thank you for that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:15 am
iolitefire Lust herself iolitefire Ok, So please, let me get this straight. In this thread you are trying to get people to understand the roots of their beliefs. Nice idea, quite valid. But then you go on to say in a post or two that we shouldn't believe history or myths since those are man-made... .... How are we supposed to know the "old ways" then? Sorry, not everyone can remember their past lives in crystal clear clarity. At the end of the day, you need history to tell you about these cultures...otherwise you'll have no idea what your doing. Whats worse than people not knowing their religion's roots is them making their religion's history up and going from there. No, I'm sorry but people cannot re-write the history of that Greek goddess simply because they don't like the way that the myths portray her. Sorry, when you worship that god you worship the entireity of that god. You don't get to pick and chose traits to make a Sweety Pie Aphrodite, or other god. When people start making up or revamping history of their faith, then they start doing a little something called culture rape, which is just as bad as people posing as pagans. for one thing, there is an old legend that there are two Aphrodite's., one for each of cronus's testacles, one good one bad. Then her getting born by Cronus severed testacles is a bunch of bull in my belief since she was originally an earth goddess. People look at her as nice all the time, yet at the same time she has a history for using wiles. And you know what? I am stopping right now. Not because I don't have something else to say. Not because i'm submitting to your arguement. But because if I go any further talking to you with how you are talking then I would be dismissing josh's request to play nice. Wow, making assumptions on my knowledge...thats a very FLCL thing to do. The fact that you made that assumption tells me a lot about your character. That's quite unfortunate, ya know? However, I'd honestly not be too quick to tell others they don't know what their talking about. In some cases, yes they do. I specialize in mythology and culture, its what I study. So yes, I do know the myths of Aphrodite. And no, she wasn't simply an earth goddess. By saying that she's just an earth goddess, you put her and several other gods into one category even though personality and style differ incredibly. Consider Ishtar, a Sumerian goddess of fertility. She ruled over the same cosmic realms as Aphrodite but her methods and actions are quite different. Anyone who says that Ishtar and Aphrodite are the same knows nothing of the religion and culture from whence they came. Also, what makes you think Aphrodite originally was an earth goddess? Do you have an proof? Any documentation? Technically, according to historical studies, it is Demeter who is based on the earth goddess archetype, not Aphrodite. Fertility isn't the only aspect of earth. You also lump all pagans into one category. Not all pagan religions are pro-woman. Some place women as inferior to men, particularly in religions of nomadic societies. Hell, look at Greek and Rome. They were openly pagan but their belief structure and culture was very misogynistic. Some pagan religions did not place women on a pedestal, they viewed them as important but valued men heavily as well. In warrior based religions, this was often the case. You say to talk myths and history with a grain of salt. But one should do the same with meditation and prayer since those are extremely subjective because they are based on one person's views. Again you are not completely reading what I am saying therfore you are missing my point. but for the sake of keeping things nice I will not discuss this with you any further. I can only present my views, it is up to you how you take them and how you act towards them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:56 am
Lust herself Khalida Nyoka Let's please define terms now. Please? If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). On that note, the first pagans worshipped men. Then they grew and started worshipping women. They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable. Fact: Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities. We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed). See, I define pagan differently. as far as I am concernced abrahmaic religions can shove it. To me a pagan is someone who belives, or holds belief in more than one god, even though some only follow one higher power. I like your fact, though, it brings up a good point and gives me some more food for thought, And with how my mind works you already caught my interest with that now you can bet i'll think on that, thank you for that. That makes Christians Pagan, The bible calls Satan and Jesus a god.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:07 am
[BlkCat] Lust herself Khalida Nyoka Let's please define terms now. Please? If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). On that note, the first pagans worshipped men. Then they grew and started worshipping women. They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable. Fact: Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities. We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed). See, I define pagan differently. as far as I am concernced abrahmaic religions can shove it. To me a pagan is someone who belives, or holds belief in more than one god, even though some only follow one higher power. I like your fact, though, it brings up a good point and gives me some more food for thought, And with how my mind works you already caught my interest with that now you can bet i'll think on that, thank you for that. That makes Christians Pagan, The bible calls Satan and Jesus a god. Actually I believe that Jesus was just a man with a good heart running an organization who had the balls to speak out against what he disagreed with in the government. Christianity is nothing but a b*****d child of paganism. There was a war between pagans and Christians because Christians tryed to change things to suit them. Then over the course of about 3000 years, regardless of who won, massive amounts of information were lost due to smaller wars and Damnato memorium, damnation of memory basically. where you erase someone from history out of spite. Then you have the legnds growing and gettting retranslated so the story ends up getting massively exagerated. Then comes the Council of Nicea where doctrine was approved for one book of everybodies lore. then at the council due to peoples bickering a lot of stuff was thrown out or destroyed over time. And people started to change the book around even more. Making it so we have a present day bible full of s**t. And an even older religion with a bunch of information lost due to some ******** wars over time. THat is what I believe.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:14 am
Mendele [BlkCat] Lust herself Khalida Nyoka Let's please define terms now. Please? If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). On that note, the first pagans worshipped men. Then they grew and started worshipping women. They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable. Fact: Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities. We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed). See, I define pagan differently. as far as I am concernced abrahmaic religions can shove it. To me a pagan is someone who belives, or holds belief in more than one god, even though some only follow one higher power. I like your fact, though, it brings up a good point and gives me some more food for thought, And with how my mind works you already caught my interest with that now you can bet i'll think on that, thank you for that. That makes Christians Pagan, The bible calls Satan and Jesus a god. Actually I believe that Jesus was just a man with a good heart running an organization who had the balls to speak out against what he disagreed with in the government. Christianity is nothing but a b*****d child of paganism. There was a war between pagans and Christians because Christians tryed to change things to suit them. Then over the course of about 3000 years, regardless of who won, massive amounts of information were lost due to smaller wars and Damnato memorium, damnation of memory basically. where you erase someone from history out of spite. Then you have the legnds growing and gettting retranslated so the story ends up getting massively exagerated. Then comes the Council of Nicea where doctrine was approved for one book of everybodies lore. then at the council due to peoples bickering a lot of stuff was thrown out or destroyed over time. And people started to change the book around even more. Making it so we have a present day bible full of s**t. And an even older religion with a bunch of information lost due to some ******** wars over time. THat is what I believe. I said nothing about what you believe, I said, that makes christians pagans because of whats in THEIR bible, not yours.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:17 am
[BlkCat] Mendele [BlkCat] Lust herself Khalida Nyoka Let's please define terms now. Please? If you ever see me use the term "pagan" I am referring to a follower of a non-Abrahamic-religion (i.e. not Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). On that note, the first pagans worshipped men. Then they grew and started worshipping women. They did NOT like it by any stretch of the imagination. That is why you find the statuary of the goddess with sacrifices all around. The men knew that the women were more important than they, and as such they identiied with what they sacrificed to the Goddess(es). The men just saw themselves as a living sacrifice to the women, and that is where much of the anti-female and anti-sex from later religions comes from. Pent up angst and anger because they knew they were expendable. Fact: Simple peoples will have complex deities. Complex peoples (I do really mean societies, not peoples) will have simple deities. We live in a world full of things that could not have been imagined fifty years ago. We barely think a god of any variety could really exist. 50 years ago, you might have been ridiculed and beaten if it got out you didn't believe like your neighbor (a few hundred years ago, you would've been killed). See, I define pagan differently. as far as I am concernced abrahmaic religions can shove it. To me a pagan is someone who belives, or holds belief in more than one god, even though some only follow one higher power. I like your fact, though, it brings up a good point and gives me some more food for thought, And with how my mind works you already caught my interest with that now you can bet i'll think on that, thank you for that. That makes Christians Pagan, The bible calls Satan and Jesus a god. Actually I believe that Jesus was just a man with a good heart running an organization who had the balls to speak out against what he disagreed with in the government. Christianity is nothing but a b*****d child of paganism. There was a war between pagans and Christians because Christians tryed to change things to suit them. Then over the course of about 3000 years, regardless of who won, massive amounts of information were lost due to smaller wars and Damnato memorium, damnation of memory basically. where you erase someone from history out of spite. Then you have the legnds growing and gettting retranslated so the story ends up getting massively exagerated. Then comes the Council of Nicea where doctrine was approved for one book of everybodies lore. then at the council due to peoples bickering a lot of stuff was thrown out or destroyed over time. And people started to change the book around even more. Making it so we have a present day bible full of s**t. And an even older religion with a bunch of information lost due to some ******** wars over time. THat is what I believe. and I was responding to what you said by posting what makes me believe that. i'ts called discussion. I said nothing about what you believe, I said, that makes christians pagans because of whats in THEIR bible, not yours.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:33 pm
Interesting side note:
Jesus never walked on the water. When the Bible started getting translated, all of the large words went smoothly. The small words gave the translators trouble. As such, when Jesus walked by the water, all most everyone thinks he walked on the water.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
![[BlkCat]'s avatar](https://a1cdn.gaiaonline.com/dress-up/avatar/ava/e9/b0/68ff25f32b0e9_flip.png?t=1249230010_6.00_01)
