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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:23 am
Quote: blindfaith^_^ blakat1313 blindfaith^_^ [quote="DeeplyDisturbedDamzel" So now.. I bring it to you Gaians. What's YOUR opinion? Its kind of crappy and unchristian of them,. Quote: Do you think if their so christian for playing a game that god himself wouldn't approve of? Why wouldn't God approve of a role play game? Quote: Does it even matter if they play or not? Another thing that would be simialar to tibia is Harry Potter. Religious nuts had a field day with that.. I exercise my right as living in America of religous freedom and I'm not going to be condemned.. yes their of a different nationally...Canadians. They claim it's just a game.. but.. if their going to be Christian wouldn't they want to treat every aspect of their life the same?? ..most christians aren't crazy. As a result, they have no problem with Harry Potter or other fictious games and media. Actually, Pope Benedictus has already spoken out against Harry Potter, and John Paul II did before he died. Technically, that means that a very large portion of christians have problems with Harry Potter and fictitious media. Pope only applies to Catholics, and even then what the pope says that applies universally to Catholics would be stuff he added to religious doctrine and cerimony at an offical level. Don't get me wrong people aren't all like, "I'm gonna forget what the pope said about X," but they really don't have to listen to his reservations about Harry Potter or other fictional media. I doubt he is going to att in an 11th commandment saying something like "Thou shall refuse Harry Potter and all his witchcraft media". Though it would be funny. The pope also spoke out against "The DaVinci Code" and I don't see many people following that lead. Well the bible speaks out about alot of things that christians don't follow so why should they follow what the pope says either? lol
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:27 pm
So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that?
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:38 am
DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:52 am
blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:32 pm
[BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore. We can not base the actions of many on the example of a few. I hardly think that is an appropriate comparison.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:52 pm
blindfaith^_^ [BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore. We can not base the actions of many on the example of a few. I hardly think that is an appropriate comparison. That was directed as what most people do(not all, but most). I just found it a bit more comical to target a priest*coughlittleboyscough* than a massive group of people.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:24 pm
[BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ [BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore. We can not base the actions of many on the example of a few. I hardly think that is an appropriate comparison. That was directed as what most people do(not all, but most). I just found it a bit more comical to target a priest*coughlittleboyscough* than a massive group of people. I would think editing out a whole book of the bible from your beliefs until you decide something it prohibits is "icky" would be a better example. "Leviticus says gays are bad." "It also says not to eat shellfish." "F*ck that! Who wants red lobster?"
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:23 am
[BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ [BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore. We can not base the actions of many on the example of a few. I hardly think that is an appropriate comparison. That was directed as what most people do(not all, but most). I just found it a bit more comical to target a priest*coughlittleboyscough* than a massive group of people. I don't think most people do that and pointing out the preist scandal is similar to me pointing back to the pagan teacher a year ago who took her sixth grade females camping and married and raped some of them. Just because she didn't doesn't mean that her religion was involved. I could also point out all the people who claim to be "Wiccan" and will help you get initiated but instead take sexual advantage of the person. We have assholes in our ranks too, thet aren't the people you point to for the majority.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:24 am
Quote: They told us, "why believe in something that isn't true??" Personally I don't take to people flaming my religion or shoving their beliefs in my face.. It more sounds to me that they don't understand why you're not a Christian. Some people get annoyed when others believe differently to them, because they may believe so strongly in the first place, that they can't see any other beliefs before them. Quote: their so christian for playing a game that god himself wouldn't approve of? I don't think it's in your right to say whether or not God believes in something. Do you really even know these people? Quote: I exercise my right as living in America of religous freedom and I'm not going to be condemned.. yes their of a different nationally...Canadians. They claim it's just a game.. but.. if their going to be Christian wouldn't they want to treat every aspect of their life the same?? I wouldn't know what to say about this, because I don't know you or these people. People shouldn't attack you for no reason to which you have put, but that's a fault of them, not of Christianity, and we are all individuals. There's not much you can do about it, then to not be in there company if you can help it, which I think you can. I've met people who act like shitheads too, and trust me, it usually doesn't have much to do with what religion they're say they in that accounts their bahaviour.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:07 am
O n y x Quote: their so christian for playing a game that god himself wouldn't approve of? I don't think it's in your right to say whether or not God believes in something. Do you really even know these people? Actually it's perfectly fine to point out the fact that YHWH doesn't like magic and says so in the Bible. wink
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:12 am
blindfaith^_^ [BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ [BlkCat] blindfaith^_^ DeeplyDisturbedDamzel So therefore if christians do what they want, what kind of religion is that? Not whatever they want. It is a religion that evolves with the times though. Each sect begins to evolve in different manners though. That can make it hard to make a broad generalization about what Christians think or even what one sect believes. In this cas we are agruing whether or not Christians really believe fictious media such as role playing games, harry potter and others are evil/ dangerous. Even though the pope speaks out against these works, that does not mean that the Christian population does. As for following or not following the bible, I'm fairly certain the only thing Christians aren't supposed to follow is out dated things. The major lessons and teachings are still pretty important. Priest: hmm...wait...I don't want to stop doing THAT!.....heh...oops! it's outdated, don't need to follow that anymore. We can not base the actions of many on the example of a few. I hardly think that is an appropriate comparison. That was directed as what most people do(not all, but most). I just found it a bit more comical to target a priest*coughlittleboyscough* than a massive group of people. I don't think most people do that and pointing out the preist scandal is similar to me pointing back to the pagan teacher a year ago who took her sixth grade females camping and married and raped some of them. Just because she didn't doesn't mean that her religion was involved. I could also point out all the people who claim to be "Wiccan" and will help you get initiated but instead take sexual advantage of the person. We have assholes in our ranks too, thet aren't the people you point to for the majority. I'm not quite sure you're getting the point. I'm talking about people who change the Bible to fit their own selfish wants. If some Pagan raped some kiddies, sure thats a bad thing, but Paganism doesn't have an all encompassing Bible like Christianity does. Christianity all follows one Bible, religions classified as Pagans follow countless completely different texts. My point is, although I highly doubt it, her beliefs may have told her that was ok. The Bible does not, and many many Christians(even the damn translators) have modified it to their selfish will countless times so it says exactly what they want it too.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:18 am
[BlkCat] I'm not quite sure you're getting the point. I'm talking about people who change the Bible to fit their own selfish wants. Yeah some people in all religious groups do this. One might argue that many pagans do this even more than other religions because we have so many who just pick and choose parts of text to follow or not follow. Quote: If some Pagan raped some kiddies, sure thats a bad thing, but Paganism doesn't have an all encompassing Bible like Christianity does. True, but I have yet to find a religion where raping children is morally ethical. Quote: Christianity all follows one Bible, religions classified as Pagans follow countless completely different texts. That does not mean that any of these pagans follow their texts any better than some Christians follow the bible. Quote: My point is, although I highly doubt it, her beliefs may have told her that was ok. Yes because those are valid respectable beliefs. Quote: The Bible does not, and many many Christians(even the damn translators) have modified it to their selfish will countless times so it says exactly what they want it too. So, if the bible was cool with child rape it would be appropriate? Of course there are transaltion problems and of course the bible has been altered over the years. That was never part of my arguement. The whole point here was that we can not use a minority of people in a religion to classify a majority. Your use of the priests as an example of people not following the teachings in the bible was not only distasteful it also failed to prove a majority of Christains didn't follow the biblical rules. I mean its like if I started off by saying that all Muslims are violent people and I sited terrorists to support this. Sure there are Muslim terrorists, that isn't really what Islam is about and it doesn't prove the majority of Muslims are terrorists.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:17 pm
I can't believe you're actually going to have the audacity to suggest you know what an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal being that may or may not exist approves and disapproves of.
Oh well, people are idiots. Get over it, it's a part of life.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:35 pm
The Resurrection I can't believe you're actually going to have the audacity to suggest you know what an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal being that may or may not exist approves and disapproves of. Oh well, people are idiots. Get over it, it's a part of life. When he writes it in his own goddamn book, yes, it does give her the right, ignorant p***k.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:38 pm
[BlkCat] The Resurrection I can't believe you're actually going to have the audacity to suggest you know what an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal being that may or may not exist approves and disapproves of. Oh well, people are idiots. Get over it, it's a part of life. When he writes it in his own goddamn book, yes, it does give her the right, ignorant p***k. Please show me the commandment that says "Thou shalt not play MMORPG's". Show me the autographed copy of the Bible signed by Yahweh himself. You want to talk about idiocy? You're the one lapping up everything at face value. The Bible is more full of holes than swiss cheese and so vague you can garner any meaning from it that your twisted little heart desires.
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