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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:05 am
Seeing the Kraken Which episode is that? 'Cause I know there's one where there's a pregnant woman and she's all "Don't worry about me, save my bebe!" And that's what happens. Series 3 only just started here in the UK, so if it's later than s3 e3 I've just been spoilered. : (
I have no clue what episode it is; I don't really follow the show... It was my first time watching it. :3
But, I think you have the right episode in mind...
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:27 am
On the other note, though, the patient was very adamant about saving the fetus/baby/whatever. It was Dr. House who wanted her to abort it and Dr. Cuddy who wanted to help the mother save it. Technically, it was the mother's choice to get the kid to live, so aborting it without her consent would be just as invasive to her body as forcing her to have the baby when she wanted an abortion. Don't get me wrong; I support a woman's right to choose. But that's it; she can choose life if she wants to.
I'm new, by the way. Hello all! blaugh
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:38 pm
I dunno, it seems like if the woman was absolutely adamant about keeping it, it would have been better manners for House to refer to it as a "baby"; you know, like when pregnant women go in for an ultrasound or whatever, does the doctor really say, "There's your fetus" and point?
On another note, I remember an episode of Law & Order where Detective Fontana and Detective Greene were questioning this pro-life organisation about missing children or something and they didn't care because the children's father worked for an abortion provider (or something like that, haven't seen the episode in forever) and Detective Fontana goes, "You're so worried about the unborn children, why can't you care for these kids that are already here?" Or something like that. I was like, yay for Detective Fontana. ^^;;
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:10 pm
The Indubitable Katie-Kat I dunno, it seems like if the woman was absolutely adamant about keeping it, it would have been better manners for House to refer to it as a "baby"; you know, like when pregnant women go in for an ultrasound or whatever, does the doctor really say, "There's your fetus" and point? On another note, I remember an episode of Law & Order where Detective Fontana and Detective Greene were questioning this pro-life organisation about missing children or something and they didn't care because the children's father worked for an abortion provider (or something like that, haven't seen the episode in forever) and Detective Fontana goes, "You're so worried about the unborn children, why can't you care for these kids that are already here?" Or something like that. I was like, yay for Detective Fontana. ^^;; yay for Law & Order and CSI! ^.^ Greene & Fontana were always my favorite detectives on that show, too. House is an a*****e on that show, so that's pretty much what he would have done. i agree that it was her choice but i just thought the whole pro-life vibe throughout the episode was overwhelming. the female doctor (i can't remember her name, it wasn't Cuddy, though) said something to House along the lines of "you use fallacies so you can try to pretend it isn't a person". =/ my mom kept bitching at the people on the TV.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:12 pm
The name of the episode is "fetal position." I've been trying to figure out for a few days how I should feel about this, or if I should post anything here. I'm a little obsessed with the show right now, I've always liked it for House's ingenious logic. I'm really ashamed of the show for doing something that has already been debunked (by Snopes, even!). But I don't think this is necessarily a loss. Technically, the woman's choice (risk her life trying to save the fetus) was respected, and, if anything, it's opened up a dialogue*, and the pro-choice side of the abortion debate was represented pretty well. I mean, House is an a*****e, but I'm sure that some fans watch it because they admire some of his better qualities. The Indubitable Katie-Kat I dunno, it seems like if the woman was absolutely adamant about keeping it, it would have been better manners for House to refer to it as a "baby"; you know, like when pregnant women go in for an ultrasound or whatever, does the doctor really say, "There's your fetus" and point? Manners?! House?! HA! That's a good one. =P * Here is a discussion going on at IMDB.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:16 pm
I refused to watch this week's episode (Fetal Position) specifically due to that.
I'm a huge House fan, but not only did they just piss me off on so many levels, they (IMO) butchered House's character philosophically. One more disappointment this season, especially after the ridiculous "rape victim" episode which also touched on abortion (One Day, One Room).
I am more than willing to suspend disbelief for medical TV, but not when it comes to issues that most people are horribly misinformed on to begin with and that piss me the hell off. stressed
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:34 pm
Peppermint Schnapps The Indubitable Katie-Kat I dunno, it seems like if the woman was absolutely adamant about keeping it, it would have been better manners for House to refer to it as a "baby"; you know, like when pregnant women go in for an ultrasound or whatever, does the doctor really say, "There's your fetus" and point? On another note, I remember an episode of Law & Order where Detective Fontana and Detective Greene were questioning this pro-life organisation about missing children or something and they didn't care because the children's father worked for an abortion provider (or something like that, haven't seen the episode in forever) and Detective Fontana goes, "You're so worried about the unborn children, why can't you care for these kids that are already here?" Or something like that. I was like, yay for Detective Fontana. ^^;; yay for Law & Order and CSI! ^.^ Greene & Fontana were always my favorite detectives on that show, too. House is an a*****e on that show, so that's pretty much what he would have done. i agree that it was her choice but i just thought the whole pro-life vibe throughout the episode was overwhelming. the female doctor (i can't remember her name, it wasn't Cuddy, though) said something to House along the lines of "you use fallacies so you can try to pretend it isn't a person". =/ my mom kept bitching at the people on the TV. My favourite's SVU, and NOT just because Olivia's mega-hot. (Though I'll admit that's a small part of it. ^^; ) But...yeah. I don't watch House so I can't really make a judgement. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:18 pm
I watch house a lot and I haven't seen this.. what a shame.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:10 pm
Durnit, I got spoilered. : (
The comment I read about that episode made me want to hit the screen, though.
I'm only up to episode 3 of season 3, and that's episode 17. :/
I haven't even seen the rape victim one. >.<
But it still makes me angry!
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:34 am
sonikku16 I watch house a lot and I haven't seen this.. what a shame. Et tu, House? House has been going down hill for a while, this just sort of confirms it. It's still really sad, though. I loved the first season of this show...
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:36 am
Shoujo Kakumei J-chan I am more than willing to suspend disbelief for medical TV, but not when it comes to issues that most people are horribly misinformed on to begin with and that piss me the hell off. stressed Someone on IMDB said that the only thing that pissed them off was the horrible medical innacurracy, and posted a link to the Snopes article. So some anti-choicer got all irritated and started saying stuff like "Oh, you're angry because of one tiny mistake?! It's a medical DRAMA, etc...." That's not the point. I'm sure every medical drama makes mistakes, and House intentionally focuses on the most bizarre and obscure medical problems. But this issue is, like you said, one that most people are already misinformed about.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:07 pm
Exactly... I was willing to watch the episode where they woke the 10-year coma patient up with a random injection of some crap they mixed up in the pharmacy, then took him to Atlantic City. O_o; God knows THAT'S not medically accurate at all, but I don't think anybody actually thinks that's possible in reality.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:52 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:55 am
Seeing the Kraken Which episode is that? 'Cause I know there's one where there's a pregnant woman and she's all "Don't worry about me, save my bebe!" And that's what happens. Series 3 only just started here in the UK, so if it's later than s3 e3 I've just been spoilered. : ( You might be thinking of the one where the woman finds out she has cancer, and if she doesn't treat the cancer she'll die, but if she does, it puts the fetus in danger. She wanted to save "the baby", but the husband wanted to save her.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:20 am
I don't watch much TV at all, so I don't have a whole lot to add. But the one episode of House that I did see featured a pregnant twelve year old. She was sick, and no one could figure out why until it came out that she had just gotten her period and was pregnant. House gave her an abortion in the end, and refused to tell her parents what was really wrong with her. When they questioned him, he said that she had "an abnormal growth in her abdomen". rofl
I thought it was a good episode, and I wish I could have seen more of the show. If only I could afford to get it on DVD...
As far as the episode that is being discussed here, I have to reserve judgement until I see it, but yeah, it sounds like they're trying to play to people's emotions with the whole "save the cute wittle baby" routine. But if the patient wanted to do everything she could to save the baby, that's her choice, isn't it? It's not the choice I would have made, but still.
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