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Liquid_Len

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:30 pm


What about renaissance and Gothic periods?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:49 pm


I'm looking for the primary periods of importance....when music really started to develop. That's why I didn't mention them.

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Liquid_Len

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:13 pm


That is just plain ignorance.

It is the period Modalic music started becoming Tonal; its definition of good counterpunct significantly changed the entire known musical thought and paved the baroque period (which is considered amazingly sloppy in comparison to the great compositions of the renaissance). It's also the beginning of non-religious popular music and it's last composers fiddled with concepts similar to a-tonality composing like modern Avant-garde.


But I guess you're right, it's not an important period.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:10 pm


I chose the main periods of classical music. The main ones that are recorded and in standard repertore.

Aside from Gregorian chants...what earlier stuff can you name? How many composers from that period have actually survived? (their names and a majority of their works, I mean)

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AnitaAngelo

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:01 pm


^_^ First of all, I must say that I am proud to finally be among educated people on this site. Your plethera of knowledge makes this music teacher happy.

As far as I can recall (I will do some research and get back to ya'll on this) the oldest recorded music on record is known as the "Epitath of Skeilos". Skeilos was a greek comopser, of sorts, and upon his death, one of his most famous 'drinking songs' was carved into his gravestone. I will do my best to find a recording of this and find out if what I remember is true (about it being the oldest) and get back to you soon.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:57 am


Harvested Sorrow
I chose the main periods of classical music. The main ones that are recorded and in standard repertore.

Aside from Gregorian chants...what earlier stuff can you name? How many composers from that period have actually survived? (their names and a majority of their works, I mean)



I can name quite a few and my lute teacher can name at least 30-40 composers (not all really major but it is more then your entire list) from the renaissance and about 10-20 from the gothic period.

some of these composers are still quite preformed and recorded mainly Dowland, tallis and bird but some other significant composers (like Plastrina).

Liquid_Len


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:49 am


Hm.

Any idea why this period is never given much attention? (aside from various apparently unknown recordings here and there)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:47 am


Actually it has... but only baroque oriented people usually listen to it.

I think the "problem" (which is the thing I like most about it) is that the composers lack the emotional compositions of the greater known periods and people have a hard time listening to it. After some of it I started understanding why baroque was thought of as dramatic.


Should I drop a few names? it can certainly do no harm...

Liquid_Len


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:49 pm


I don't intend to add it to the list, to be fair...but sure, if you want.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:51 pm


Nah... No one will see it anyway so it's not worth my trouble.

Liquid_Len


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:58 pm


People will read the thread if they see that new posts are in here...but okay. Your call.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:36 am


By the way, here is a list of composers you forgot:

PERGOLESI, Giovanni Battista
BRUCKNER, Anton
BERLIOZ, Hector
BORODIN, Alexander
ELGAR, Edward
GERSHWIN, George
GLINKA, Mikhail
KHACHATURIAN, Aram
LISZT, Franz
MENDELSSOHN, Felix
MUSSORGSKY, Modest
PAGANINI, Niccolo
SCRIABIN, Alexander
SHOSTAKOVICH, Dmitri
SIBELIUS, Jean
SMETANA, Bedrich
WEBER, Carl Maria von
PROKOFIEFF, Sergei

opera:

SAINT-SAENS, Camille- Samson & Dalila
ROSSINI, Gioacchino- Barber of Seville
DONIZETTI, Gaetano- Lucia di Lammermoor
MEYERBEER, Giacomo- L'Africaine, Les Huguenots,
MASSENET, Jules- Esclarmonde, Manon, Werther
MASCAGNI, Pietro- Cavalleria Rusticana
MONTEVERDI, Claudio- La Favola d' Orfeo, L'Incoronazione di Poppea
BELLINI, Vincenzo- La Sonnambula, Norma, I Puritani
LEONCAVALLO, Ruggero- I Pagliacci
GLUCK, Christoph Willibald- Orfeo ed Euridice, Iphigenie en Tauride
BEETHOVEN, Ludwig van- Fidelio
DEBUSSY, Claude- Pelleas et Melisande
RIMSKY-KORSAKOV, Nikolai- Tzars bride, Sadko
*VERDI, Giuseppe- Aida, Falstaff, Macbeth, Otello, Rigoletto, La Traviata, Il Trovatore
*TCHAIKOVSKY, Piotr Ilyitch- Eugen Onegin, Queen of Spades, Iolanthe
*MOZART, Wolfgang Amadeus- Cosi fan tutte, Le nozze di Figaro,
*HANDEL, George Frideric- Flavio, Orlando, Tamerlano
*WAGNER, Richard- Der fliegende Hollander, Lohengrin, Die Meistersinger von N?rnberg,Tannheuser, Tristan und Isolde

Liquid_Len


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:38 pm


Out of curiosity..why the asterisk by some of them?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:25 pm


They are the composers you already wrote about... I just added operas.


By the way, I wrote this list with the help of a friend after noticing a couple of names missing. He pointed out (being a Tchaikovsky fan) that as far as he knew Tchaikovsky didn't write an opera called Romeo & Juliet. I didn't think of bringing it up but I just remembered I actually heard the piece (in a concert played by the Israeli Philharmonic) and it was an orchestral piece and not an opera.
Why not compile a list of the main compositions by the composers? I could really use the reference myself as I'm sure might too.

Further more, Handel's Messiah isn't an opera. I think it's a Passion but I can't be sure.

Liquid_Len


AnitaAngelo

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:01 pm


Liquid_Len
Further more, Handel's Messiah isn't an opera. I think it's a Passion but I can't be sure.


The proper term of Handel's Messiah is "Oratorio". ^^;;; Hope that helps.
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