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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:43 pm
My ma smokes, and it kind of, um... Sucks. Especially when she lights it in the car, and then can't get the window down. -.- When we lost our dog, she promised she'd quit if we found him. We found him. She still smokes. D= Butyeah... Personally, I frown upon those who smoke... I remember it was funny, I was complaining for, like, DAYS when I found out my favorite actor smokes. My mom was like, "You're more upset about him smoking than me." I was like, "Well, I don't want to have sex with YOU." But the truth is, if I said anything about my mom's smoking, she would get really pissed off andyeah. It's kind of ironic that I'm such a prude - NO DRUGS THEY'RE BAD FOR YOU, NO CIGARETTES THEY'RE CANCER STICKS, NO DRINKING WE'RE UNDERAGED - 'cause my best friend smokes, and I think she's becoming an alcoholic. D= And all of her friends besides me and a very small other few are like, total stoners. I think I remember an afternoon when she was trying to score some weed off of her drugie friend, but changed her mind when she remembered she had a drug test coming up or something...
Wait, I'm off-subject. @w@ Um... I really don't like it when people smoke. I got into my mom's cigerattes once... When I was like in fourth grade... And, well, that was like... Bad. O.O I mean, I guess it's their choice. Chain-smokers, man... Those are the retarded ones. talk2hand
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:07 pm
.+:{ }:+.
I TRY not to judge people who smoke. I mean I have asthma, and my mom has been smoking forever. But I found out when I was younger that asking her to quit or telling her im worried about it just made her go smoke more. I thought she would quit when my brother got bronchitis.
Its gotten better For about 7 years now the rule has been she can only smoke downstairs or outside. And since I have been driving I told her that she cant smoke in my car, she cant smoke in my father's car, and my father wont let her smoke in her new car. And a few years before I could drive I told her that I wont ride in the car with her if she smokes in there, mostly because her windows suck and I would have to hang my head out the window to avoid coughing.
Basically I dont mind if you smoke. I dont think its good but you arent a bad person if you do. If you are around me and light up I will be the one to leave.
Weed. rolleyes Same principles I guess. Just dont think you are more hardcore because you smoke it instead.
Drinking >.> My views are a LITTLE different ._.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:19 pm
I've never smoked, and have no plans to. My grandfather did for a while, but quit a few years ago. I don't approve of smoking (not that people need my approval), and I think it does affect my opinion of people, to be completely honest.
Also, smokers (usually) reek of smoke, as do their clothes and breath. I hate that smell. When I was younger, I couldn't stand smoke at all. I wasn't asthmatic, but I would rather starve than go into a smoky bar, and would throw fits if my parents tried to make me go in. I've gotten better, and can act normally as long as the smoke isn't too bad. But I can't stand being right next to someone who is smoking. ._.;
As for you, Q, I still <3 as much as I did before. n.n I think it's different on the internet. If people on here smoke, I don't have to smell it, so it doesn't really bother me. Lawlz weird psychology.
And about Marijuana, LAWLZ even if it's not as bad for you, it's still an addiction. You still get high. You still go to dealers and spend all your money. It can still ruin your life. DRUGS R BAD. D:
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:40 pm
I don't care if people smoke, as long as they don't smoke around me. I get really sick really fast. I don't think it's anyones business other then the smoker. I personally don't see a reason to smoke, but I can understand that people do it to feel better, addicted etc.
Q = heart So, pssh.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:48 pm
///+ Buzz Bro... +///
I hate smoking, I hate people who smoke in closed rooms, and I hate people who smoke and don't even care that they're in the friggin entrance to the mall. Those are the same people that are audacious enough to give me dirty looks when they blow smoke and it wafts in my direction, so I have no choice but to cough REALLY loud and obnoxiously.
But I'm not going to tell people not to smoke, I mean it's THEIR life, and they can do whatever they want, as long as they don't tell me to smoke or try to tell me what choices are "bad" for me. That's when I start telling them that I can't trust their choice making skills since they decided to do something that is knowingly harming their body.
///+ ...Blue+///
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:48 pm
Wow, a lot of your parents smoke. o.o; My parents smoked, but they quit before I and my brother were born.
Then again, my parents were big hippies, so maybe they were smoking some stuff other than tobacco... o.o;
Anyway, I don't smell like smoke. My clothes don't smell like smoke. And this is either because I (a) smoke cloves and/or (b) only smoke like once every few weeks or so, and don't do it that much.
When I first came to college, EVERYBODY was smoking. It's a common joke around here to ask who DOESN'T smoke, because it's an art college. But frankly, I have no flipping idea why art and smoking (tobacco, at least) is connected.
I don't smoke at school, and I don't smoke with people who don't smoke. I smoke outside, by myself, and usually, I don't even like smoking around other smokers.
Like I said, I'm kind of a hypocrite. I met this guy named Zack, and he smoked Marlboro lights. Zack is now my best friend here, and it was through him that I got the courage to even start smoking.
I've wanted to smoke ever since I can remember, I think it's a mixture between wanting to piss my parents off and wanting to look "cool". But once I smoked a marlboro light, I realised how crappy they tasted, how crappy they smoked, etc., etc.
Zack made some funny comments about how smoking might be better if the companies didn't put stuff like dog piss in the cigs. XD
Anyway, long story short I was told (falsely) that cloves are healthier than tobacco so I wanted to try those cigarettes and see if they tasted any better. I did this not because I wanted to look cool, but because at the time I wanted to do voice for some radio spots that were opening at school and basically what they told me was, I should start smoking. Because my voice as it was was not the type of voice that would get me on the radio.
I'm only psychologically addicted to smoking, not physically(as you would be nicotine). I smoke now mainly just to keep working on getting the voice I want for prospective radio gigs.
I dislike people smelling like smoke, but over time the smell has grown on me and I like it. Alcohol, though, is a smell I can't stand. Which is again, ironic, since I also used to be an alcoholic.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:07 pm
I have and do smoke, but not as a habit and not with regularity. You know that part in Fight Club where Edward Norton starts beating Jared Leto and says he wanted to breathe smoke? I smoke when I'm angry or depressed. But I will avoid smokers if I'm sick or preparing for a vocal performance.
As for weed, well, I know a whole bunch of self-proclaimed potheads who are really wonderful, laid-back people. Smart, too, though a bit giggly. rofl
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:44 pm
Enter at... ...Your Own Risk Ok my view on Smoking has to deal with my Great Grandmother. She smokes just about every day of her life since she was 16,she dies at the age of 82. She got to the point of smoking 3 packs a day but thats how it was. I grew up with her smoking all the time. Well She ended up having a big stroke and than a one stroke after another. She couldn't use her left side very well and even when she was in the nursing home she still tried to smoke and almost lit herself on Fire. The Dr. said that the reasons for her strokes was the smoking upped her risk for them plus we have heart problems in our family. It was so sad though because of all the strokes her body failed her but her mind was still there. She basically killed herself. So My stance has always been Smoking bad,will make you end up like she did and I never want that.
My view has changed though. I still think about my Great Grandmother but it doesn't have the impact anymore. I haven't smoked(except I did try a clove and well I inhaled too much...owwy)but I keep feeling the urge to. Some of my friends smoke and I tell them about my Great Grandmother and if that doesn't stop them than well its their body so be it.
Second hand smoke use to bother me but now I dodn't mind as muchsince you can't smoke in bars here. the smoke would get so bad that I would never go clubing or anything because I couldn't breath with all the smoke. Now that you can only smoke outside here it's much better. infact I'll go out with my friends and "enjoy the second hand coolness".
So yeah basically it's your oiwn body kill it and see if I care. In fact the other day I found out my friend smokes(I knew he smocked weed)cloves and I thought I would be pissed at him. I was but not because he was killing himself but because he didn't offer me any XD
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:48 pm
[Q] Padme Potter of Hobbiton I learned this stuff in SCHOOL, I didn't question them. Look it up for yourself? I learned I could get AIDS from kissing someone who was HIV+. School when addressing "morally wrong" concepts = not usually true. Better than it used to be, but still pretty bad with their scare tactics. Edit, but hell, I looked up for myself anyway. HEY LOOK. Quote: The health risks associated with Marijuana are often misunderstood or exaggerated. The best recent scientific research shows that marijuana is much less harmful than prohobitionists say it is. Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain (from WebMD, July 2003). A recent survey of research found that long term marijuana use did not have a significant effect on cognitive abilities. The report was published in the July 2003 Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society. Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection (from Washington Post, May 2006). A recent study of the effects of long-term marijuana use found that "smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer." This study, the largest of its kind, was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The same study found that heavy tobacco use greatly increased the chance of lung cancer. [Source]Hell, there's an officially-recognized association for the benefits of Marijuana. http://americanmarijuana.org/Wikipedia Unlike tobacco, cannabis has not been shown to cause emphysema or lung cancer. [34][35][36] Other studies have suggested that cannabis may be less likely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users than other drugs.[37][38] According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.[ 39] [Source]Oh snap! Looks like school was wrong. I'll stick with my statistics, and you stick with yours. I wonder why weed is illegal if it's so ******** healthy?
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:54 pm
Padme Potter of Hobbiton [Q] Padme Potter of Hobbiton I learned this stuff in SCHOOL, I didn't question them. Look it up for yourself? I learned I could get AIDS from kissing someone who was HIV+. School when addressing "morally wrong" concepts = not usually true. Better than it used to be, but still pretty bad with their scare tactics. Edit, but hell, I looked up for myself anyway. HEY LOOK. Quote: The health risks associated with Marijuana are often misunderstood or exaggerated. The best recent scientific research shows that marijuana is much less harmful than prohobitionists say it is. Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain (from WebMD, July 2003). A recent survey of research found that long term marijuana use did not have a significant effect on cognitive abilities. The report was published in the July 2003 Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society. Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection (from Washington Post, May 2006). A recent study of the effects of long-term marijuana use found that "smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer." This study, the largest of its kind, was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The same study found that heavy tobacco use greatly increased the chance of lung cancer. [Source]Hell, there's an officially-recognized association for the benefits of Marijuana. http://americanmarijuana.org/Wikipedia Unlike tobacco, cannabis has not been shown to cause emphysema or lung cancer. [34][35][36] Other studies have suggested that cannabis may be less likely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users than other drugs.[37][38] According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.[ 39] [Source]Oh snap! Looks like school was wrong. I'll stick with my statistics, and you stick with yours. I wonder why weed is illegal if it's so ******** healthy? Enter at... ...Your Own Risk Weed is illigal because of the crime that goes with it. People will steal and the such to get money to buy the weed. Plus people think weed is a "Gate Way" drug so that if you use weed you'll next try crack or something. which is wrong. Also it's Illegal because there isn't a big company behind it. Really if we regulated and made weed legal the money the government would get is crazy. Plus you would great jobs and stimulate the economy.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:59 pm
Peles Tears Padme Potter of Hobbiton [Q] Padme Potter of Hobbiton I learned this stuff in SCHOOL, I didn't question them. Look it up for yourself? I learned I could get AIDS from kissing someone who was HIV+. School when addressing "morally wrong" concepts = not usually true. Better than it used to be, but still pretty bad with their scare tactics. Edit, but hell, I looked up for myself anyway. HEY LOOK. Quote: The health risks associated with Marijuana are often misunderstood or exaggerated. The best recent scientific research shows that marijuana is much less harmful than prohobitionists say it is. Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain (from WebMD, July 2003). A recent survey of research found that long term marijuana use did not have a significant effect on cognitive abilities. The report was published in the July 2003 Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society. Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection (from Washington Post, May 2006). A recent study of the effects of long-term marijuana use found that "smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer." This study, the largest of its kind, was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The same study found that heavy tobacco use greatly increased the chance of lung cancer. [Source]Hell, there's an officially-recognized association for the benefits of Marijuana. http://americanmarijuana.org/Wikipedia Unlike tobacco, cannabis has not been shown to cause emphysema or lung cancer. [34][35][36] Other studies have suggested that cannabis may be less likely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users than other drugs.[37][38] According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.[ 39] [Source]Oh snap! Looks like school was wrong. I'll stick with my statistics, and you stick with yours. I wonder why weed is illegal if it's so ******** healthy? Enter at... ...Your Own Risk Weed is illigal because of the crime that goes with it. People will steal and the such to get money to buy the weed. Plus people think weed is a "Gate Way" drug so that if you use weed you'll next try crack or something. which is wrong. Also it's Illegal because there isn't a big company behind it. Really if we regulated and made weed legal the money the government would get is crazy. Plus you would great jobs and stimulate the economy.
Right. There isn't a big corporation selling it because it's ILLEGAL.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:26 pm
I'll stick with my statistics, and you stick with yours. I wonder why weed is illegal if it's so ******** healthy? It's simple... it makes you feel good... And if you remember, the puritans' (some of the first europeans to settle here...) idea of fun was to make sure that no one else had any... which still pervades the attitudes of many older people today... And the last time I checked, all the members of congress, and of the senior positions in gov't agencies were older people... Also, I'd like to mention the fact that sometimes the gov't can't find anything better to do than to ******** with people... don't believe me? go look at your local town ordinances... I s**t you not when I say that Ft. Walton (town I lived in before here) wouldn't let businesses cut down trees on their property... or forced them to cut down other trees... or regulated sign sizes... or wouldn't let people put up treehouses out in the back of your yard... or have any sort of mess... hell, they'd fine you for not mowing your grass... And the tendency is for the gov't to make MORE rules, not take away the ones they've already made... And of course, you've got the parents vehemently opposed to their kids touching ANYTHING that might change their state of mind (though usually this is a GOOD thing...) And until I see scientific, documented evidence to the contrary, I'm going to go with what I've read about the studies on marijuana...
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:32 pm
Sibeiko And until I see scientific, documented evidence to the contrary, I'm going to go with what I've read about the studies on marijuana... You mean like, oh s**t, the ones I provided? rolleyes Seriously Padme, if you wish to blindly believe lies people are feeding you, go with that. I'll stick with my 5+ documented sources that prove you otherwise. Peles: Wow. My great grandmother was literally crazy. My view on mentally ill people and those who claim to be mentally ill has been skewed because of that. Everything changes when you see it in action. I'm sorry for your great grandmother. =(
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:48 pm
[Q] Sibeiko And until I see scientific, documented evidence to the contrary, I'm going to go with what I've read about the studies on marijuana... You mean like, oh s**t, the ones I provided? rolleyes Seriously Padme, if you wish to blindly believe lies people are feeding you, go with that. I'll stick with my 5+ documented sources that prove you otherwise. Peles: Wow. My great grandmother was literally crazy. My view on mentally ill people and those who claim to be mentally ill has been skewed because of that. Everything changes when you see it in action. I'm sorry for your great grandmother. =( [sarcasm] No... not the ones YOU provided... See... None of the organizations here (quoted on WebMD), are actually reputable... I mean, they're only organizations that are composed of only really smart doctors with many years of experience: International Neuropsychological Society, Igor Grant, MD, professor of psychiatry, University of California, San Diego School of Medicine; director, UCSD Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research Center. Tod Mikuriya, MD, president, the California Cannabis Research Medical Group, Oakland; former director of non-classified marijuana research, the National Institute of Mental Health Center for Narcotics and Drug Abuse Studies. Lester Grinspoon, MD, professor emeritus of psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston; author, Marijuana: The Forbidden Medicine and Marihuana Reconsidered. I mean... even though they've had years of medical experience, and have done through testing of marijuana and have come to the conclusion that it is not harmful, I'm not going to believe them since the government said it was bad for me... [/sarcasm] and sorry, I guess I should have added to the end of my post that the only studies I've seen so far are practically the same ones you posted... o.o Iono, I have a bad habit of sometimes posting unclear things... x_xAnd for everyone's knowledge, I don't smoke, drink, or do drugs... I just don't really bother, I've better things to do... But I don't really care if you want to... ^_^
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:58 pm
Sib, rolled eyes was for Padme, not you. xd Was your sarcasm geared to her, too? God, now I feel stupid. D:
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