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 Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:47 pm
thelovelyLIZ Okay, in case you can't tell, you usually have to be a little more thorough with me xD Especially today, since I didn't have school. I still don't really understand how I'm applying the black box arguement to it. I don't recall saying that since God is inconcievable he exists. I believe we can't understand him, but that's not why I believe in him. No, but it's the argument you're using against my disbelief in him. Quote: God didn't write the Bible. It's based off people's expereinces, visions, etc. so in a lot of it God didn't really do the talking. So why is the Bible considered Holy? How do you know if some of the people weren't just bullshitting you? Quote: When he did, prehaps he was just describing it in a way he thought we'd understand. You know, like how you talk to children who may not understand something. I mean, he knows us pretty well. I dunno. After genetic engineering, cloning, and travelling to the moon and back, something tells me we could understand something a little more complicated. Quote: My point is, the authors of the Bible compared God's society in Heaven to a kingdom because that's what they knew. Had they lived in a republic it would probably be the Republic of Heaven. See, that's my point. God's society is completely based on knowledge that was known at the time God was invented. God even said it's a kingdom. Obviously, God's society is dependant on human thought at the time. God is a relection of its author. Quote: Yes, our free will can impose upon others. That's an aspect of fate: something we can't control. I'm curious, you don't believe in God but you talk like you believe in predestination. I'm just wondering about your personal beliefs on the subject. Ever heard of determinism? Quote: Good verses, btw. As I said, I think God will know the outcomes of all the choices we make, no matter what choice we make but it's up to us to choose which way we go. I wouldn't say his nature is fallable. It's just no one said life was fair. Except God. God is supposedly just. Quote: Another random question: are you always online xD You always have a new post everytime I pop back in here... it blows my mind. Oh, it's quite simple. After getting home from school, I hop on for ten minutes or so. Then I go to one of my numerous extra-curricular activities. When I get back, I pull out my homework, get online, put on some music, call my girlfriend, and multitask for the next 3 or 4 hours. It works quite well. mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:13 pm
I'm pretty sure that God wanted us to have some sort of Holy book, so by some divine guidance the books that were supposed to en dup in the Bible did.
You have to always consider the context the Bible was written in, since we loose a lot of the meaning if we try to apply it to modern day word for word.
And that's exactly my point: you explain something the best you know how, which is why it's explained as a Kingdom. But I think we're kind of chasing that around in a circle now so that really all I have to say xD
And no, I haven't heard of determinism. Do tell.
God gives us obstacles to overcome- He'll never give us more than we can handle.
Hooray multi-tasking. Speaking of, I have to go make a flyer for the talent show... blah.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:51 pm
thelovelyLIZ I'm pretty sure that God wanted us to have some sort of Holy book, so by some divine guidance the books that were supposed to en dup in the Bible did. Ok, then. We can take it as God's own words, then. He allowed them to be used in His book. Quote: You have to always consider the context the Bible was written in, since we loose a lot of the meaning if we try to apply it to modern day word for word. Precisely my point! You'd think God's ideas would be eons ahead of the time, but they weren't. His opinions and thoughts were quite human. Quote: And that's exactly my point: you explain something the best you know how, which is why it's explained as a Kingdom. But I think we're kind of chasing that around in a circle now so that really all I have to say xD So why does God have a Kingdom nowadays and not an obviously more modern Republic or Democracy? Quote: And no, I haven't heard of determinism. Do tell. It's the idea that if you know every single variable, you know what will happen. If you know what every single happening, you know what the future variables will be and know what will happen even later. The universe is actually following an undeniable course of reactions, which each cause another reaction. And they're all perfectly predictable. It's like dominoes. Quote: God gives us obstacles to overcome- He'll never give us more than we can handle. Really? So what about people that commit suicide? It seems to me like it might've been too much for them to handle.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:49 pm
I believe the reason Absolutism does not work in human terms is because absolute power corrupts absolutely. When you wield the power of freedom and slavery,life and death,etc. etc.,over hundreds of other human beings,it tends to go to your head. With no checks or balances,the ruler becomes corrupt and someone eventually overthrows him(or her). It is the reason no human being has ever conquered the world,nor will a human being ever conquer the world in the future.
You claim God has absolute power,with no checks and balances,but even this is not necessarily true. The one thing he DOES lack the power to do is,well,sin! All his decisions would be inherently good;therefore,his reign would be inherently good,and when he rules over all,he will reign forever because there will be no reason to rebel.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:01 pm
Smeagle the Great I believe the reason Absolutism does not work in human terms is because absolute power corrupts absolutely. When you wield the power of freedom and slavery,life and death,etc. etc.,over hundreds of other human beings,it tends to go to your head. With no checks or balances,the ruler becomes corrupt and someone eventually overthrows him(or her). It is the reason no human being has ever conquered the world,nor will a human being ever conquer the world in the future. You claim God has absolute power,with no checks and balances,but even this is not necessarily true. The one thing he DOES lack the power to do is,well,sin! All his decisions would be inherently good;therefore,his reign would be inherently good,and when he rules over all,he will reign forever because there will be no reason to rebel. Doesn't He define sin, though?
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