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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:49 pm
Clearly this is a matter you care alot about, but you have to understand that not everyone has understanding parents. Even as being a minor, that doesnt mean that one has to be their slave and not have any interests that differ from their parents wishes.
Trust me, I get it. But sadly enough, in this situation, yes she does. If her mother is this against witchcraft, she cannot afford to practice.
I mean, my mom was trying to make me be a singer for 10 years and I hate singing. I agree that it is good to keep it in the open in some respects, but if you can't then you got to do what you got to do.
Like what? What is she going to do? Even if her mother doesn't check her room regularly, there's always the chance she'd find something. The more this happens, the more suspicious she will be. This isnt something worth hiding and possibly getting punished so severely for. This is something worth waiting for.
Let her find somewhere to practice outside her house or let her wait until she's self-sufficent enough to not need her mother. Thats it.
It isnt like she is hiding a rocket launcher under her bed, so your post was a bit overboard there
I find disowning her, burning her possessions and cutting off her modes of communication about on the same level. But maybe that's just me.
Regardless of what I think of the matter, I am a crew member in the guild and am going to have to tell you to calm it down. Your post was very boarderline insulting so, lets not have that happen again.
Im glad youre a crew member. Im sure you'll have fun in the position.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:56 pm
I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again.
I learned to hate christianity when I was exposed to it. What's your point? I never told you to be christin. I told you keep up a facade and waiit until you don't need her to live to practice your chosen craft.
yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am.
Good.
You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect.
That was respect. Its called respect for the person that I can only understand with the information provided for me seeing as the internet serves the purpose of hiding people as well as bringing them together. If you want better replies, then post more information to use.
I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time.
And I gave you an idea. Stop what youre doing or find somewhere else to do it. You just don't want to hear it.
But fine. I'll let it go. Good luck with youre life otherwise.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:59 pm
Aila-al-Jehan I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again. I learned to hate christianity when I was exposed to it. What's your point? I never told you to be christin. I told you keep up a facade and waiit until you don't need her to live to practice your chosen craft. yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am. Good.You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect. That was respect. Its called respect for the person that I can only understand with the information provided for me seeing as the internet serves the purpose of hiding people as well as bringing them together. If you want better replies, then post more information to use. I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time. And I gave you an idea. Stop what youre doing or find somewhere else to do it. You just don't want to hear it.
But fine. I'll let it go. Good luck with youre life otherwise. I'm not going to drop everything and just sit there and wait. You're writing like you're asking me to just drop everything and throw away everything until I'm 18. I really don't think I'm going to just waddle around being religionless for the next 3.3 years.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:06 pm
Konomiko92 Aila-al-Jehan I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again. I learned to hate christianity when I was exposed to it. What's your point? I never told you to be christin. I told you keep up a facade and waiit until you don't need her to live to practice your chosen craft. yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am. Good.You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect. That was respect. Its called respect for the person that I can only understand with the information provided for me seeing as the internet serves the purpose of hiding people as well as bringing them together. If you want better replies, then post more information to use. I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time. And I gave you an idea. Stop what youre doing or find somewhere else to do it. You just don't want to hear it.
But fine. I'll let it go. Good luck with youre life otherwise. I'm not going to drop everything and just sit there and wait. You're writing like you're asking me to just drop everything and throw away everything until I'm 18. I really don't think I'm going to just waddle around being religionless for the next 3.3 years. Religionless, no. Practiceless, yes. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Just don't show it. What do you worship? Are you against idols or for them?
If its the goddess or god, get barbie and Ken dolls to symbolize them or something. If you worship mother earth, light a green candle that they get at those CHRISTIAN religon stores and claim them for her. Or grow a plant in her name.
Just don't do anything that looks wiccan. And like ...iono who he is, but he said "Dont do anythig with tools" Befoe you go to bed, lye awake and meditate on your deities. Thank them in your head. Trrust me, they'll understand. They arent like God, who if you don't do EXACTLY what he says, he'll smite you.
Iono what you've been doing so far, but Im telling you not to practice. Go ahead and believe. Just don't do anything.
Oh, and BTW, if you arent wiccan, why does it say something to that effect in your siggy?
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:10 pm
Aila-al-Jehan Konomiko92 Aila-al-Jehan I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again. I learned to hate christianity when I was exposed to it. What's your point? I never told you to be christin. I told you keep up a facade and waiit until you don't need her to live to practice your chosen craft. yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am. Good.You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect. That was respect. Its called respect for the person that I can only understand with the information provided for me seeing as the internet serves the purpose of hiding people as well as bringing them together. If you want better replies, then post more information to use. I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time. And I gave you an idea. Stop what youre doing or find somewhere else to do it. You just don't want to hear it.
But fine. I'll let it go. Good luck with youre life otherwise. I'm not going to drop everything and just sit there and wait. You're writing like you're asking me to just drop everything and throw away everything until I'm 18. I really don't think I'm going to just waddle around being religionless for the next 3.3 years. Religionless, no. Practiceless, yes. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Just don't show it. What do you worship? Are you against idols or for them?
If its the goddess or god, get barbie and Ken dolls to symbolize them or something. If you worship mother earth, light a green candle that they get at those CHRISTIAN religon stores and claim them for her. Or grow a plant in her name.
Just don't do anything that looks wiccan. And like ...iono who he is, but he said "Dont do anythig with tools" Befoe you go to bed, lye awake and meditate on your deities. Thank them in your head. Trrust me, they'll understand. They arent like God, who if you don't do EXACTLY what he says, he'll smite you.
Iono what you've been doing so far, but Im telling you not to practice. Go ahead and believe. Just don't do anything.
Oh, and BTW, if you arent wiccan, why does it say something to that effect in your siggy?Eh I haven't played with dolls in a long time >.< I actually asked for some for Christmas. I got wierd looks. And I'm not calling myself Wiccan/Pagan Only studying for the time being. Got any other Ideas perhaps we can discuss over a PM? The Wiccan thing is something to help 'fluffies' Learn what Wicca really is and isn't.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:14 pm
Konomiko92 Aila-al-Jehan Konomiko92 Aila-al-Jehan I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again. I learned to hate christianity when I was exposed to it. What's your point? I never told you to be christin. I told you keep up a facade and waiit until you don't need her to live to practice your chosen craft. yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am. Good.You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect. That was respect. Its called respect for the person that I can only understand with the information provided for me seeing as the internet serves the purpose of hiding people as well as bringing them together. If you want better replies, then post more information to use. I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time. And I gave you an idea. Stop what youre doing or find somewhere else to do it. You just don't want to hear it.
But fine. I'll let it go. Good luck with youre life otherwise. I'm not going to drop everything and just sit there and wait. You're writing like you're asking me to just drop everything and throw away everything until I'm 18. I really don't think I'm going to just waddle around being religionless for the next 3.3 years. Religionless, no. Practiceless, yes. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Just don't show it. What do you worship? Are you against idols or for them?
If its the goddess or god, get barbie and Ken dolls to symbolize them or something. If you worship mother earth, light a green candle that they get at those CHRISTIAN religon stores and claim them for her. Or grow a plant in her name.
Just don't do anything that looks wiccan. And like ...iono who he is, but he said "Dont do anythig with tools" Befoe you go to bed, lye awake and meditate on your deities. Thank them in your head. Trrust me, they'll understand. They arent like God, who if you don't do EXACTLY what he says, he'll smite you.
Iono what you've been doing so far, but Im telling you not to practice. Go ahead and believe. Just don't do anything.
Oh, and BTW, if you arent wiccan, why does it say something to that effect in your siggy?Eh I haven't played with dolls in a long time >.< I actually asked for some for Christmas. I got wierd looks. And I'm not calling myself Wiccan/Pagan Only studying for the time being. Got any other Ideas perhaps we can discuss over a PM? The Wiccan thing is something to help 'fluffies' Learn what Wicca really is and isn't. Of course. smile Plenty. I never had to hide it myself, but I understand that for some people, they need ...alternative approaches.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:28 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:52 pm
Unfortunately, what Aila does say is the truth. You are still under your parents roof and what happens under it is their rule. But they also need to know that you are your own person. You make the rules for yourself and have a mind of your own.
Of course, you will need to respect them too. But I'd think if you continue to belief what you do, and say it to them. Tell them that that isn't what you believe. And keep bringing it up when religion is apart of the discussion.
Eventually, I assume they might be thinking 'Okay, theres no way I'm going to change her mind'. Even if they think you'll be going to hell for it. Just tell them that your mind has been made for a while now. And just as they are strong in their faith, you must be strong in yours.
I don't believe faith and belief in something can be forced upon, or be made. In many respects it comes from our hearts, and souls, from past lives and what not. It just becomes what feels right.
I like the quote another (spirit) has said through me. "If its there, your heart will lead you to it."
And it is the truth. Your heart will keep you on your path as long as its necessary. Its only right to follow.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:22 pm
Starlock Hell, I've used a plasma ball to induce alered states of consciousness. Oh mai gah, I love them things! XD
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:43 pm
*sigh* I have pretty much the same problem with my Dad, exept I made the mistake of telling him. Unforunately Aila is right about the legal thing, until you're 18 (or 16, I can't remember) your parents have a right to choose what religious education you are given. But for all those who think telling your mother will make things better I can tell you it's not always true.
I thought letting my Dad know would allow me to be more open, I thought we could co-exist and coem to an agreement, the oppisite happened, now Dad dosn't even like me watching Charmed (He even asked if I knew that Wicca and Charmed were different evil ) I have to smuggle my tarot deck around, I'm not even allowed candles of any sort and Dad accuses me of casting spells if I mutter to myself.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Keep'em hidden and don't let her know. At least then you won't have to face constant suspicion about all your activitys. Keep it underground until you can move out. (It's painful, I know. I've been studying Wicca almost a year and I've never even seen a circle casting.) Practice in non obvious ways like meditation. And as for your original question on top of high shelves or bookcases is good, they can't be seen from the ground. Just so long as no one else uses them.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:04 am
You can do what my friend did. He memorized all his books word for word and then gave them away and he can remember everything in his books to this day.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:16 am
The FLCL Guy You can do what my friend did. He memorized all his books word for word and then gave them away and he can remember everything in his books to this day. Haha. I think that'd be a little hard to do. Besides, I think its a good thing to have the actual book. For an at home library someday. You know the cinema scene. Little kids, your kids, or grandkids going up to the bookshelf and reading all the interesting books you have. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:35 am
babyXphantom The FLCL Guy You can do what my friend did. He memorized all his books word for word and then gave them away and he can remember everything in his books to this day. Haha. I think that'd be a little hard to do. Besides, I think its a good thing to have the actual book. For an at home library someday. You know the cinema scene. Little kids, your kids, or grandkids going up to the bookshelf and reading all the interesting books you have. ^_^ Think of trying to memorize something like "Triumph of the Moon" eek That book looks HAYUGE.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:28 pm
Take books and cards to school and leave them in school until the heat is off.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:02 pm
Lucyeleven Take books and cards to school and leave them in school until the heat is off. I can't leave them at school. I don't stay there overnight or whatever
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