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No offence or anything WitchyBoy, but you sound an awful lot like a preacher. One stealing his words from Native Americans.

What makes you think his God has no face? He said he spoke to him. Do you think it is impossible for a Christian to experience God as we experience other gods?

Why is he in over his head?

I agree with Baluk. But I have to ask you why it would be so important to be popular? Being an insomniac is easilly fixable. And no matter if you are told it, or you think it, you are not, ever, weak.Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. No one is when it comes to life. Different meanings to different times. It's an overused word.
I beleive that you are one of the strongest people I 've met. To be able to word yourself as you did is comendable. That in itself has helped you already. Look at what you hold as your beliefs now. Is it the same as it was?

[Edited by MOD: Please do not double post, and try and keep quote towers down.]



Vix and Baluk are right. Just because you don't hold the same belief in the Christian God doesn't give you the right to call hima Faceless God. To those who avidly believe in Him, He exists with flesh and blood alongside them and embraces His followers in His light. Like the Goddess Herself to us. Loyal to their God they may be, and avid believers, they judge. But where does that give us the right to judge them right back? I believe what I believe, but I also believe in God and Buddha and Zues and Vishnu and Allah. Baluk's right, what if all the God's exist together? Saying what you say, Lagaz , makes you no better.


EDIT sad Jess,there was originally only one quote ( no double post) When I left yesterdday.lol. Sorry....)

We also need to remember that we should not judge how others worship whom they worship. If you believe in a monothestic or polythestic religion, then that is your belief. I do not believe we were put here to judge others. Then again, that's my opinion. We are human. Everyone has the right to one's own opinion.

I have thought about all of the entities in the world being just one entity, and trust me it's a headache.

Almost every religion started with a human or humans as the creator.
arrow Christianity by reverted Jews.
arrow Judism by a man and his family in the middle east. I think he was an outcast.
arrow Islam by another jew.
arrow Buddism by a philosopher who ironiccally stated that he did not want to be treated as a god, for he was just a man.
knowing these things is one of the reasons i want to learn more about wicca, that and it calls to me somehow. Of course i know someone else created Wicca too, but Wicca's roots have been seen across the world for a very long time.

you are right i appologize, as for that wind and rain thing that was just a quote i found that seemed applicable, i say that hes in over his head because he just wants spells and has no real interest in wicca, i say that thier god is faceless because he has never shown himself only given commandments with the threat of hell, to sum up i appologize but its just those people who think saying a few rhymes of a spell will get you what you want without doing anything.

I'm gonna be a problem then, becuase I don't know how to do that kind of stuff where you put more than one response.

[Edited by MOD: Alright then, I'm going to teach you.]


God has shown himself in many ways. A bush, thunder, Jesus. I want to know spells to help others and benefit my own power. I guess you could compare my to Light, the main character of DeathNote.