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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:13 pm
I think my gay friend has told their parents that they are wiccan, but not gay yet, lol.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:15 pm
Dorian Requiem I think my gay friend has told their parents that they are wiccan, but not gay yet, lol. Wiccan or Gay sound wrost off? Hmm... that's a debatable question xp confused question exclaim
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:00 am
Haha! I have much the same problem.. only I told them I was gay but not about being into pagan stuff. I guess it depends on the household I was always for being open with you family - maybe its just a matter of watching and waiting until such a time as you are happy to tell them
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:34 pm
Dorian, thank you for reminding me about the Rede, that will definitely come in handy when/if I have to tell them.
Darin, I've never heard of an age restriction on choosing your religion.
Vampire Jonathan- I keep my things very well hidden, don't worry. And how do you know I'm not on drugs or sacrificing kittens? ninja No, just kidding.
Aiwin-...No. I've done plenty of research (although I definitely don't know much in comparison to all there is to know about it), I've always been interested in this kind of stuff, and I've decided that it's what I believe now.
And to everybody who's given their advice, thank you very much. I think I know how to handle my situation now, I just hope it works out well. Thank you all! heart
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:12 pm
Boy, when I told my parents I didn't believe in Christianity but Wiccan--or as close to it as possible, sometimes I stray from everything--my mother called me a devil-worshipper and took my radio away. [I decided I was Wiccan because my long time beliefs were closest to Wiccan and everything I loved and became in life was finally given a name.]
But that was a long time ago.
The thing with parents is that they wanted you to be raised their way, and when it comes to religion, they will believe they've done the right thing when it comes to "Yes, I am religious" or "I'll believe" because they don't Know how to react to freedom of religion in their baby.
I think you should ease into it like everything else that is hard to talk about. Ask about how they would feel if you weren't as religious as they wanted you to believe, ask them if it were okay that you didn't wish to believe in what they were raised to believe. Make subtle hints to give them a general idea of what you were looking for--support. Not AA support, but parental support, because acceptance anywhere is beneficial in all ways including mind frame and physical health.
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:20 pm
illusen729 Darin, I've never heard of an age restriction on choosing your religion. Never said that. You have to be at least 18 to be initiated into a Wiccan coven, and you need to be initiated before you can claim the title Wiccan. You can be interested in Wicca before then, and you can (arguably) practice some of the religion, but you can't call yourself Wiccan if you're not an initiate.
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:30 am
Darin Rosewood illusen729 Darin, I've never heard of an age restriction on choosing your religion. Never said that. You have to be at least 18 to be initiated into a Wiccan coven, and you need to be initiated before you can claim the title Wiccan. You can be interested in Wicca before then, and you can (arguably) practice some of the religion, but you can't call yourself Wiccan if you're not an initiate.There are no covens around in my country and i might never be able to go outside of y country and i might never be able to get into a coven. so i'll never call myself "wiccan"? that seems so. . . funny. . .
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:03 am
Darin Rosewood illusen729 Darin, I've never heard of an age restriction on choosing your religion. Never said that. You have to be at least 18 to be initiated into a Wiccan coven, and you need to be initiated before you can claim the title Wiccan. You can be interested in Wicca before then, and you can (arguably) practice some of the religion, but you can't call yourself Wiccan if you're not an initiate.Well, there are no covens around here, or at least not that I can find. Just a random thought that came to mind just now-- with enough people, is it possible to start your own coven?
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:15 pm
illusen729 Darin Rosewood illusen729 Darin, I've never heard of an age restriction on choosing your religion. Never said that. You have to be at least 18 to be initiated into a Wiccan coven, and you need to be initiated before you can claim the title Wiccan. You can be interested in Wicca before then, and you can (arguably) practice some of the religion, but you can't call yourself Wiccan if you're not an initiate.Well, there are no covens around here, or at least not that I can find. Just a random thought that came to mind just now-- with enough people, is it possible to start your own coven? If one of those people has a third degree, sure. Technically, Sanders did it with only a first degree, although he started an entirely different tradition. XD I think a coven's anywhere from three to thirteen members, but I'm not Wiccan (though I'd like to be, but it's hard to find a non-Fluffy "coven" anywhere, plus I'm no tquite of age), so I'm not entirely sure.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:35 pm
Aiwin Telling parents your wiccan is about the same as telling them your gay. They most likely won't take it well and it will put awkwardness in your parent-child relationship for a while. If your parents really care about you, they will find a way to adapt to your descision. Though I have proof this isn't always the case, when I told my mum she asked me a few rational questions I answered them and I told her the basics of the rede she doesn't like me using candles in the house and she isn't too keen on me having an athame but otherwise she doesn't mind. (btw I'm under 18 )
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:29 pm
Darin- What do you mean by third degree?
Rastawn- How did you deal with the candle part?
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:15 pm
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~If you're under the legal age of adulthood, your parents DO have a say in what religion you practice. You can believe in whatever you want, but your parents have the legal right to say you can't practice it.
If you're over the age of legality yet still live at home, you should still refrain from practicing it if your parents don't approve. It's called respect.
That being said, I suggest this link for tips on talking with your parents.
As for what's Wiccan and what isn't, I personally agree that if you aren't initiated, you aren't WICCAN. You can be Neo-Wiccan (a usually solitary practice with beliefs based primarily around what outer-court information is available), or an Ecclectic Pagan with Wiccan flavorings, or you could come up with a totally new name.
Wicca has certain traditions and rules to go by, just as many religions do. If you do not adhere to those traditions, than you can't call yourself by that religion. Simple as that.
This does NOT mean that whatever you believe is less viable, or not valid. It's ... just not Wicca.
@ Meredith -- What country do you live in, and how thoroughly have you searched? Legitimate covens usually keep to themselves, in that they aren't loud and flamboyant and aren't seeking attention. After all, it IS a mystery religion.
@illusen -- "Third-degree" refers to the level of one's initiation, usually used within Wicca. Most Wiccan traditions have three degrees, each entered into with an initiation ritual designed to bring on spiritual growth and change (such rituals are NOT shared outside of the coven). Each degree has a different level of responsibility within the coven, as well as different levels of learning.
Third degree is usually the highest degree you can get. Once this degree is reached, the person has learned enough about magick and the religion, and has enough experience within the coven that they are able to branch off and begin their own coven, in which they would be the High Priest or Priestess.
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:20 pm
(`~*.~,.I am Aila-al-Jehan.,~.*~') ^What she said.^
(*.~*.Light to the world.*~.*)
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:42 pm
I don't know if I'll tell my parents if I convert........ My step-dad is pretty religious and I don't know what would happen....... And my mother doesn't really believe in it. My dad and step-mother........ well they would most likely be a bit disapointed, and 2 of my sisters have already had children, but I'm still going to try to go to college..... Are there colleges that don't accept Wiccans?
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:08 pm
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I'll just stick with traditional witchcraft.
Wicca is "neo". As in Neo-paganism. New.
So wouldn't saying neo-wicca be an oxymoron?
Thats the thing with it. You can be solitary and call yourself wiccan. And you can also be initiated in a group. I believe people can self-initiate too. With certain rituals.
Degrees are taken from freemasonry, if I remember correctly. Personally I'm not really fond of wicca because of the fact that it isn't witchcraft. Its made up of a lot of traditions, and doing spells and working with herbs is just an aspect of it.
-shrug-
Too many rules and regulations it seems... And really its supposed to be laid back. But I guess alot of people don't want it to be.
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