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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:43 am
... Um...
If Takazawa did the updates at 5:00 PM his time that would be 9:00 PM EST >.> Is 5:00 not part of the evening?
Also... either do the killings (BOTH) before jailings, or the jailings before the killings (BOTH). Keep it consistent and fair. >.>
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:56 am
Dukes ... Um...
If Takazawa did the updates at 5:00 PM his time that would be 9:00 PM EST >.> Is 5:00 not part of the evening?
Also... either do the killings (BOTH) before jailings, or the jailings before the killings (BOTH). Keep it consistent and fair. >.> Not quite, 9PM EST = 10 AM GST + 8:00, and I'm just going to go ahead and decide I'm siding with whatever time Taka chooses. Nomatter what time the update is, the day still lasts 24 hours. And even if the check-in time is LATER than it's been in the past, making it EASIER for people with roles, I don't think y'all really have to stay up until the moment of the update
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:12 pm
I KNEW there was another reason I didn't vote for you... xP Nyeh. I agree with Dukes... ... -waits for people to come home from school so that the DRAMA BEGINS- (Because you know there'll be drama. D:)
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:27 pm
Mmkay. *Takes a deep breath*
I'll start with the inactivities. I don't see what's wrong with the system of "three inactive rounds in a row or five in all result in inactivity". I agree that something needs to be done about the passes, but they're not in the same category as activity. In fact, some people use it as a strategy, though I personally don't see how that helps. Voting for yourself could be in the same category as inactivities. I don't think a sniper or killer should be penalized for not sending in their kills. They have the role; what THEY choose to do with it is their choice. If we're talking voting activity, they're subject to the same rules as other players. If they do go inactive, I guess you could RNG someone to take their place.
The next thing that I have a bit of a problem with is the update order. I don't see why the jailing should be in between the Sniper kill and the CK kill. That is unfair to the CK. The two killers essentially do the same thing; one isn't more or less important than the other. Inactivities should always be last, so I agree with that part. The killer's clue…No. But I'll talk about that in a minute. As for the update times, I don't have an overwhelming opinion, except that I'd like it to happen sometime at night, preferably between 7pm and midnight (CST), because I don't have time to check in the mornings. I understand if that doesn't work for you, though.
I'll talk about the Newsreporter and Detective together. I see that you've made some observations regarding their ability to do their jobs. First of all, the Detective and the NR both went inactive last game. You can't really do anything to "pick one that does its job". That goes against EVERYTHING this game is based on, which is providing an equal chance for a role to all. You also describe the "tedious communication" you've observed. Again, that isn't a matter of choice. If the necessary parties get online at least once each day, there shouldn't be a problem. On day one, the NR/Detective would PM you their respective requests. When you update, you PM them the necessary information. The cycle repeats. If they don't PM you their requests, they don't get any information. If the person they wish to question does not respond, the questions should be PMed to a "backup", who they would have specified in their request PM. Also, half the fun of the NR is to (like Meru said) find ways to get their clues across in a fashion that does not endanger them. The threads are not a requirement, and it doesn't matter if people see them or not. In fact, anyone can make a thread with bogus clues. Some previous NRs have gotten clues across in other ways; they just have to be creative.
The Sniper and Crazed Killer both already send clues. I don't see how that is new. The PMs always included a kill, a backup kill, and a clue in case one was needed. At least, that's what was needed when I was the sniper. The clue that is given to the NR is the one that the NR requests. Again, there is NO NEED to include the clues in the updates. In fact, it is forbidden for any GM to include ANY hints about ANYTHING in the storyline.
Alright. G-Team time. First of all, if one dies or is jailed, there is NO REASON why they should be replaced. If the sniper gets killed, you don't replace them. So why should the G-Team be replaced? One of the main goals of the sniper or killer is to find the G-Teamers and kill them. In addition, the two G-teamers should NOT know each-other. That is unfair to all with roles. I mean, you don't go telling the killers who the other is, so why should the G-teamers have this option? I'd also like to cover one point that wasn't mentioned that another GM did. A G-teamer saved a GCDer, and the GCDer's name was mentioned in the update. That is unfair, because it may convey information. For example, what if the NR had a G-teamer protecting them? This could tip off BOTH killers that they had found someone possibly worth killing.
You're changing a lot of things. Just in case you haven't seen evidence of this, we SGers have a notorious dislike of change when it comes to our beloved game~ heart
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:28 pm
This is a Public Service Announcment
I honestly don't see the problem with a slight change in update time. He lives in a different time zone. If people can't deal then don't play if you're going to act that way.
I don't really agree with the no NR thing and posting clues yourself. But you are the GM and it is your choice. No matter what anyone else says.
This has been a Public Serivce announcment
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:47 pm
Hey man, I roleplay D&D and other various systems where the GM makes special and certain rules like this. They of course know what is going to happen and have it all planned out, so everbody has the most fun they can have.
Takazawa, don't change a thing. cool
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:54 pm
Oh, my god. gonk This is going to be one big pain in the a**. And here comes the drama...
Time I don't care to much about the time. He is on the other side of the freaking world. He works and goes to school, just like most of of do. So it would be hard for him to have to wake up in the middle of the night just to post the update. There are 24 hours in one day. I'm sure you will have time to vote. But if it is going to be such a big deal to everyone, maybe he can write the update and have someone else post it at the correct time. Just a thought.
I can't really say anything about the other stuff because I have no idea what it has and hasn't been.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:26 pm
As long as there is an update every 24 hours it shouldn't really matter. You still get a day to vote and send in everything.
But having an assistant GM still helps because you never know what will happen.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:49 pm
I will miss the NR, and I have no clue what the detective does, but whatev! Different GMs do things differently! ^_^
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:04 pm
Wow. I just read through the first post, and there are some things that I REALLY don't agree with. But I have a very bad headache so I'm in no mood for typing my opinion, and I'm sure other people have already covered the points that I'd be getting at.
The only thing that I'll really voice my opinon about because I think it is just plain unfair is the Gteam changes. They're not fair. They're not fair. They're not fair. Replacement's not fair. Knowing's not fair. I don't know what else to type so I'll just keep typing They're not fair. They're not fair. They're not fair.
I think I've made my point without feeding my headache too much @.@
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:54 pm
I'm with others and just not playing under these rules. May this be a lesson that you should not have GM competitions just be about ability to write good updates. We should have something else in the future, like what you're going to bring to the game or something. Estellio Estel
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:05 pm
Padme Potter of Hobbiton May this be a lesson that you should not have GM competitions just be about ability to write good updates. Estellio Estel Q-F-FREAKIN'-E (even though it makes me a hypocrite.) It's sorta like that law that Gaia had to use recently... ... GMship should be restricted to people in the correct timezones. (PST through EST) Makes it easier for the majority. ^^
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:16 pm
Okay, guys, I have a feeling this is going to go in the wrong direction, so just stop please?
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:36 pm
Bellecat Padme Potter of Hobbiton May this be a lesson that you should not have GM competitions just be about ability to write good updates. Estellio Estel Q-F-FREAKIN'-E (even though it makes me a hypocrite.) It's sorta like that law that Gaia had to use recently... ... GMship should be restricted to people in the correct timezones. (PST through EST) Makes it easier for the majority. ^^ Now I KNOW that's not fair. Excluding people from trying to become GM just because they live in a different timezone isn't right. Kori's right; just lay off, guys. Tell me: if any of you became GM, you're saying you wouldn't change anything at all? Quit giving Taka a hard time; he's just trying to add a new spin on the game to make it a little more fun. How the heck are we supposed to know what works and what doesn't if we don't TRY IT?! Trial-and-Error people; if a GM implements something that people don't like then the next GM can either scrap it entirely or tweak it to make it work. The game hasn't even started yet and some of you are already giving him a hard time.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:53 pm
Bellecat Padme Potter of Hobbiton May this be a lesson that you should not have GM competitions just be about ability to write good updates. Estellio Estel Q-F-FREAKIN'-E (even though it makes me a hypocrite.) It's sorta like that law that Gaia had to use recently... ... GMship should be restricted to people in the correct timezones. (PST through EST)Makes it easier for the majority. ^^  How is that fair? You wil still get 24 hours between updates, giving enough time for everyone to vote =/
I'm really disgusted about the way some of you are acting. He's giving you the chance to voice your opinion on his changes and rather than simply pointing out what you see wrong, it seems you're insulting him on top of it.
As for the NR, now that the GM is serving the same purpose, the only difference being he can't die (though if it became unfair I'm sure he'd cease to give clues), it's really no different.
Oh, and as for those of you who are threatening to drop this round; please, by all means, do so. I'm sure a bit less whining and drama in the game would do everyone a world of goog
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