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Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:23 am


xalisae
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The problem a lot of the time is proving that someone is on drugs or whatever. I know that if someone does something during their pregnancy that harms the child permanently, the child has the right to sue when they're old enough. At least it's been brought to court and won here in Canada before.

However in terms of after birth, it's extremely difficult to tell. Just because a teen has a child doesn't mean they're going to be a horrible parent and just because an adult has a child doesn't mean they're going to be a wonderful parent. My boyfriend is an adopted child and his mother kept him for 6 months before she realised that she couldn't handle a baby, so she gave him up willingly. On the flip side my boyfriends brother (also adopted) had a mother who did drugs and drank all throughout the pregnancy and afterwards. She neglected him etc. Eventually his grandparents took Anthony from his mother and kept him for a few months before they realised that they couldn't have a child and gave him up. He however was 3 at this point and still has extreme personal issues.

Many of the times some has their child taken away is because of reports from other people to social services. My friend Danielle (who has a 2 year old daughter and lives in an apartment specifically for teenage parents) had to call them about a girl living in her apartment who was neglecting her son. Had Danielle never called who knows where the son would be now.

The only real advice I could give from all of these things is, if you have a child and realise that you can't handle it, give it up. And if you see someone who has a child who is abusive or neglectful towards it but refuses to give it up, call social services.


Social Services (Wow. Same abbreviation as the Nazi Schutzstaffel. Go figure.) might help kids. In the majority of cases, sure, why not. However, at least here in the United States...all too often people abuse the system, and use it as a weapon. It needs to be reformed before it can really do its job properly, which should be taking care of unborn babies/babies/women in these situations. They obviously don't, all too often, or else this thread wouldn't have been made.


The SS? Uhhhh...I really wouldn't go that far...seeing as who they were, what they did and orcastrated, and then there is the factor that they had a branch to study the occult....any ways

The claim that they've been used as a weapon isn't far fetched. When i was younger I was a very troubled youth. I had anger managmentproblems. A doctor I was seeing diognosed me as bipolar and I was placed in an instatution for troubled teens (Just look up willowsprings of nevada, or west hills). I wasnt gettign better, the medicine wasnt helpeng, and six other doctors clearly stated that I wasnt bipolar, that I just needed a stern talking to and some one understanding to listent to me (I wasnt bipolar, I just had a short fuse. Something I understand is common in pre-teens). After three month, my mother removed me from the institution and the doctor who diagnosed me threatned to call Social Services and have me removed from her home and placed in foster care. My mother, in one of the most royal cases of "go ******** yourself" I have ever heard of, immidiatly placed me under ownership of my father in germany (My parents were split and my father was serving over in germany) Guy couldnt touch me then.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:22 am


Tiger of the Fire
xalisae
Beware the Jabberwock
The problem a lot of the time is proving that someone is on drugs or whatever. I know that if someone does something during their pregnancy that harms the child permanently, the child has the right to sue when they're old enough. At least it's been brought to court and won here in Canada before.

However in terms of after birth, it's extremely difficult to tell. Just because a teen has a child doesn't mean they're going to be a horrible parent and just because an adult has a child doesn't mean they're going to be a wonderful parent. My boyfriend is an adopted child and his mother kept him for 6 months before she realised that she couldn't handle a baby, so she gave him up willingly. On the flip side my boyfriends brother (also adopted) had a mother who did drugs and drank all throughout the pregnancy and afterwards. She neglected him etc. Eventually his grandparents took Anthony from his mother and kept him for a few months before they realised that they couldn't have a child and gave him up. He however was 3 at this point and still has extreme personal issues.

Many of the times some has their child taken away is because of reports from other people to social services. My friend Danielle (who has a 2 year old daughter and lives in an apartment specifically for teenage parents) had to call them about a girl living in her apartment who was neglecting her son. Had Danielle never called who knows where the son would be now.

The only real advice I could give from all of these things is, if you have a child and realise that you can't handle it, give it up. And if you see someone who has a child who is abusive or neglectful towards it but refuses to give it up, call social services.


Social Services (Wow. Same abbreviation as the Nazi Schutzstaffel. Go figure.) might help kids. In the majority of cases, sure, why not. However, at least here in the United States...all too often people abuse the system, and use it as a weapon. It needs to be reformed before it can really do its job properly, which should be taking care of unborn babies/babies/women in these situations. They obviously don't, all too often, or else this thread wouldn't have been made.


The SS? Uhhhh...I really wouldn't go that far...seeing as who they were, what they did and orcastrated, and then there is the factor that they had a branch to study the occult....any ways

The claim that they've been used as a weapon isn't far fetched. When i was younger I was a very troubled youth. I had anger managmentproblems. A doctor I was seeing diognosed me as bipolar and I was placed in an instatution for troubled teens (Just look up willowsprings of nevada, or west hills). I wasnt gettign better, the medicine wasnt helpeng, and six other doctors clearly stated that I wasnt bipolar, that I just needed a stern talking to and some one understanding to listent to me (I wasnt bipolar, I just had a short fuse. Something I understand is common in pre-teens). After three month, my mother removed me from the institution and the doctor who diagnosed me threatned to call Social Services and have me removed from her home and placed in foster care. My mother, in one of the most royal cases of "go ******** yourself" I have ever heard of, immidiatly placed me under ownership of my father in germany (My parents were split and my father was serving over in germany) Guy couldnt touch me then.


I -know- it isn't far-fetched. It happened to me.

xalisae


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:45 pm


That sounded like I was trying to tell you ow right it is, like oyu didn't already know o.o I read how your child was tacken away for a year, its sad how Social Services over reacts these days. They don't even study the situation any more, they just take.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:25 pm


I'm friends with a boy who doesn't exactly have the best parents in the world. His father is a womanizer and his mother doesn't love him. And as sad and terrible as his home life is, he's still the greatest person I've ever met. I honestly believe that's he's a better person for having to live through all the s**t he has. He brings endless joy to everyone he meets, and no one can tell me that he should have been aborted because his parents are "made of fail."

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