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 Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:10 pm
Laren Khalida Nyoka Well as far as the bnit about ego, I'd say I most assuredly fall more towards the "left" path (which is ironic). I'd not necessarily call myself Satanic in any means, but my interests do tend toward darker matters. As for the division you speak of, it is just part of human nature. People want to think that they are unique, and that only a few do what they do. That's all well and good, but if you can't communicate with what few others there are, how can you truly advance on the path? I like Gray Magic. Preservation of self in service to others. you bring up a good point, and I probably could work on ym communication a bit more,
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:40 pm
I am actually an excellent communicator... in life, t least. I'm not so sure about my digital communication.
As for being "Black," White," or "Gray" I lie somewhere else...
My magickal interests are Necromancy, Healing, and Divination (I just recently got me some Tarot cards... and I seem to be able to work very well with them).
I intend to make Necromancy my primary area of study, healing secondary, and divination as the tertiary (ie, looking to the future or present... the past has interest to me, but no more than what I can read in a standard book).
I even have an explanation for my interests. Necromancy can be damaging to the Self, so I intend to keep myself in one piece by studying healing. I am also of the opinion that knowledge is power. With the right information, an individual could change their own lives and the lives of others. In short, I intend to go pretty far out there (Necromancy), with a rope to pull myself back with (healing) and all the while avoiding silly/stupid mistakes [through reading cards and dice (also gotten recently)]
I just don't think I can really bring myself to serve a large group... without some serious gain. As I had said in a different thread, I'm far too mercenary for that. However, if I like the individual or group, then I won't shy away from lending a hand.
In all honesty I hadn't heard any of this "notation" until just recently (as in, this thread being where I first heard it).
I believe in more mastering the self, and through mastery of self, influence/control over reality around one's self.
I should stop "talking" now... sometimes i just don't shut up... (like when I'm interested in the topic)
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:25 am
Khalida Nyoka I am actually an excellent communicator... in life, t least. I'm not so sure about my digital communication. As for being "Black," White," or "Gray" I lie somewhere else... My magickal interests are Necromancy, Healing, and Divination (I just recently got me some Tarot cards... and I seem to be able to work very well with them). I intend to make Necromancy my primary area of study, healing secondary, and divination as the tertiary (ie, looking to the future or present... the past has interest to me, but no more than what I can read in a standard book). I even have an explanation for my interests. Necromancy can be damaging to the Self, so I intend to keep myself in one piece by studying healing. I am also of the opinion that knowledge is power. With the right information, an individual could change their own lives and the lives of others. In short, I intend to go pretty far out there (Necromancy), with a rope to pull myself back with (healing) and all the while avoiding silly/stupid mistakes [through reading cards and dice (also gotten recently)] I just don't think I can really bring myself to serve a large group... without some serious gain. As I had said in a different thread, I'm far too mercenary for that. However, if I like the individual or group, then I won't shy away from lending a hand. In all honesty I hadn't heard any of this "notation" until just recently (as in, this thread being where I first heard it). I believe in more mastering the self, and through mastery of self, influence/control over reality around one's self. I should stop "talking" now... sometimes i just don't shut up... (like when I'm interested in the topic) Necromancy, healing and divination? sounds like an odd mix if you ask me. Then again I practice Voodoo the kind you don't find in the books with Aphrodite, so I have no room to make a crack on that mix myself.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:37 pm
Archaphro Laren Left-hand path is a branch of satanism. Using OTO terms, it refers to "White" Magic (elimination of ego in deference to "greater" goals) as the Right-hand path. "Black" Magic (preservation and elevation of ego) as the Left-hand path. Left-handers actually tend to be thoughtful, philosophical individuals, and I haven't met many Left-handers who both know what the Left-hand path is about and proclaim themselves to be evil. My pet peeve is so many people who speak in different languages and are trying to say the same thing. Especially with the prevalence of Wicca, there seems to be a thought that a universal discipline of mysticism doesn't exist, which I don't think is right, even in terms of Chaos Magic. Thoughtful individuals I like. Lefthanders who try to be evil just because it's the cool thing to do I hate. I'll tell you what evil is, evil is just bugging someone for hecks sake and brutally messing up their life and laughing your a** off about their predicament, though in relaity you could care less if the person has it easy or has it hard. Evil is not dark and scary kill everything. And no matter what you say, we are all a bit evil sometimes. There goes half of Gaia, right there. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:04 pm
Koemiko Archaphro Laren Left-hand path is a branch of satanism. Using OTO terms, it refers to "White" Magic (elimination of ego in deference to "greater" goals) as the Right-hand path. "Black" Magic (preservation and elevation of ego) as the Left-hand path. Left-handers actually tend to be thoughtful, philosophical individuals, and I haven't met many Left-handers who both know what the Left-hand path is about and proclaim themselves to be evil. My pet peeve is so many people who speak in different languages and are trying to say the same thing. Especially with the prevalence of Wicca, there seems to be a thought that a universal discipline of mysticism doesn't exist, which I don't think is right, even in terms of Chaos Magic. Thoughtful individuals I like. Lefthanders who try to be evil just because it's the cool thing to do I hate. I'll tell you what evil is, evil is just bugging someone for hecks sake and brutally messing up their life and laughing your a** off about their predicament, though in relaity you could care less if the person has it easy or has it hard. Evil is not dark and scary kill everything. And no matter what you say, we are all a bit evil sometimes. There goes half of Gaia, right there. sweatdrop ?
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:51 pm
Laren Left-hand path is a branch of satanism. Using OTO terms, it refers to "White" Magic (elimination of ego in deference to "greater" goals) as the Right-hand path. "Black" Magic (preservation and elevation of ego) as the Left-hand path. Left-handers actually tend to be thoughtful, philosophical individuals, and I haven't met many Left-handers who both know what the Left-hand path is about and proclaim themselves to be evil. My pet peeve is so many people who speak in different languages and are trying to say the same thing. Especially with the prevalence of Wicca, there seems to be a thought that a universal discipline of mysticism doesn't exist, which I don't think is right, even in terms of Chaos Magic. (`~*.~,.I am Aila-al-Jehan.,~.*~') Actually, Satanism is a LHP religion, but it isn't THE LHP.
...Whats "OTO"?
Gah. Good and Evil are useless terms. There's no good or evil. There's degrees of positive and negitive.
And yea, the self-proclaimed "EVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL" people are idiots. They're useless beings, really, especially those who will use a steriotype to explain their motives. Yaagh.
Oh, I'm LHP, by the way. XD (*.~*.Light to the world.*~.*)
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:02 pm
Aila-al-Jehan Laren Left-hand path is a branch of satanism. Using OTO terms, it refers to "White" Magic (elimination of ego in deference to "greater" goals) as the Right-hand path. "Black" Magic (preservation and elevation of ego) as the Left-hand path. Left-handers actually tend to be thoughtful, philosophical individuals, and I haven't met many Left-handers who both know what the Left-hand path is about and proclaim themselves to be evil. My pet peeve is so many people who speak in different languages and are trying to say the same thing. Especially with the prevalence of Wicca, there seems to be a thought that a universal discipline of mysticism doesn't exist, which I don't think is right, even in terms of Chaos Magic. (`~*.~,.I am Aila-al-Jehan.,~.*~') Actually, Satanism is a LHP religion, but it isn't THE LHP.
...Whats "OTO"?
Gah. Good and Evil are useless terms. There's no good or evil. There's degrees of positive and negitive.
And yea, the self-proclaimed "EVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL" people are idiots. They're useless beings, really, especially those who will use a steriotype to explain their motives. Yaagh.
Oh, I'm LHP, by the way. XD (*.~*.Light to the world.*~.*) LHP? oh left hand path. Hm, I met some cool lefthanders and I met some s**t lefthanders i'll be honest, though i'm sure if we all got along we'd all find something to nitpick and fight over anyways.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:43 pm
If we abandon the Satanist part, and the different religions and deities... what would we define the left and right hand paths as?
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:58 am
Khalida Nyoka If we abandon the Satanist part, and the different religions and deities... what would we define the left and right hand paths as? A world where people didn't use Christianity to distort other religions to thier world view.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:41 pm
Archaphro Khalida Nyoka If we abandon the Satanist part, and the different religions and deities... what would we define the left and right hand paths as? A world where people didn't use Christianity to distort other religions to thier world view. I'm not entirely sure you have answered my question... What do you mean?
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:52 pm
Khalida Nyoka Archaphro Khalida Nyoka If we abandon the Satanist part, and the different religions and deities... what would we define the left and right hand paths as? A world where people didn't use Christianity to distort other religions to thier world view. I'm not entirely sure you have answered my question... What do you mean? I mean I don't tihnk there would be any right and left ahnd paths if it wasn't for what Christianity did to other religions over the length of time. Everything would just be in unison and people would leave other people's religious beliefs alone. Of course.... there's always some a*****e somewhere to alienate your religion so who knows.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:01 pm
Alright, but let us bear in mind the division that religious intolerance has caused. What traits, other than religion, would define either of the so called "paths?"
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:44 pm
Aila-al-Jehan Actually, Satanism is a LHP religion, but it isn't THE LHP. ...Whats "OTO"? Gah. Good and Evil are useless terms. There's no good or evil. There's degrees of positive and negitive. And yea, the self-proclaimed "EVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL" people are idiots. They're useless beings, really, especially those who will use a steriotype to explain their motives. Yaagh. Oh, I'm LHP, by the way. XD OTO = Ordo Templi Orientis. Organization that Crowley was a member of before he created his own little cult. As for good and evil, there is good and evil, but that's best left for another topic or a PM (hint, hint). Thank you for catching my gaff on the LHP factoids. I am slightly embarrased... sweatdrop As for describing the Right Hand Path and Left Hand Path outside of a Judaio-Christian context, I think I did it fairly succinctly, but I will repeat: -Right Hand Path = Service to others or a cause -Left Hand Path = Service to self
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:30 am
Laren, you actually had done a good job of it. I was more making sure we were all "on the same page." I don't really want to deal with people fighting about different interpretations, so I was trying to find out how much agreement there was.
Thank you, however, for reposting your definition.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:37 am
@Laren: I had no problem with what you said, I thought you were respectful
@khalida:I may be angry with Christianity but Christians that mind thier own businesss and are respectful I don't mind one bit. If all Christians were like that then I would have little reason to be angry at Christiantiy
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