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Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:57 pm


ambrose_sallia
Ouch. A thread in response to the censorship of my thread ^^ A personal attack. Whatever shall I do?

I'll let you all know that since the censorship of the thread I've received countless PMs regarding the censored symbols and every time I've been kind enough to show them the symbol. I feel that completely withholding knowledge is pointless, especially when something so trivial isn't actually the dangerous aspect.

Congratulations on posting the symbols, by the way. I won't attempt to complain to scream, as this is only proof that doing so would just raise another mob. And I won't beg that these be removed as they'll just be posted again. However I'd like you to know that in posting those you merely tried to immaturely go against what was advised.

You want the honest answer about that symbol? It's practically worthless to most people. You can stare at it, hold it, touch it, and use it in alchemy and nothing bad will happen. However to learn of its power is dangerous. Because that symbol has nearly infinite power to bend reality, that gives nearly infinite ways to destroy the world or bring suffering to the human race. I wished to have the symbol censored not to obnoxiously keep you from information- but to prevent people from learning how to use it. If one person in a million learns how the symbol works and how to use it just that one person could ruin countless lives. To this day I may be the only one here who fully understands its power and knows how to use it to its potential. As such- I strive never to use it. Since my first day discovering it (when I was excited and used it without thinking of consequences, only to have my life erode since) I've only used it once- and that was carefully planned to benefit the many at loss to the few (only me and my father were affected negatively by that which helped near a hundred).

So go ahead and stare at that symbol. Look at it until your mind's eye bleeds. And if one of you finally understands it and realizes its power and knows how it works and gains the ability to draw on it- know that you only screwed yourself over.

I didn't have it censored for fear of many people learning something evil. I had it censored for fear that one in a million would learn how to use that evil. Despite low odds, anything above 0 is risky.

I know. Ambrose, I know your intentions are always honorable.

Here's my bottom line. If knowledge is stronger than people, then strong ideas will wash us away. We will all be destroyed by them eventually, so it doesnt matter what we do now.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:01 pm


Also, I wont say all of what I'm thinking because it would be rude, but heres the gist. I'm not doing this just to go against what was advised. I am going against blind, unquestionable authority. Ambrose, you said yourself you shared the symbol with everyone who asked. WHat if you gave it to the one who will use it for evil? Arent we already then screwed? Where do you draw the line? Is it really possible to perfectly hide or eliminate a dangerous idea, and then be sure another won't think of it?

Joshua_Ritter
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ambrose_sallia

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:12 pm


Joshua_Ritter
Also, I wont say all of what I'm thinking because it would be rude, but heres the gist. I'm not doing this just to go against what was advised. I am going against blind, unquestionable authority. Ambrose, you said yourself you shared the symbol with everyone who asked. WHat if you gave it to the one who will use it for evil? Arent we already then screwed? Where do you draw the line? Is it really possible to perfectly hide or eliminate a dangerous idea, and then be sure another won't think of it?
Yes, we're pretty much screwed anyway. If I showed it to the person who will kill us all, then you can blame me when the universe is destroyed. I guarantee that in death I won't care. However by not having it publicly displayed I not only greatly decreased the odds of someone finding it and using it incorrectly, but I also delay the "inevitable" (assuming it is, truly, inevitable). And while you may think delaying inevitable is pointless, I guarantee you that stalling for even a millisecond could be the difference between learning how to save the world in time or having the world collapse.

For all you know by censoring it I saved us a week[, and that week may be all the extra time we need to learn how to save the earth when some idiot uses the symbol wrong. If that's so, you'll be thanking me for censoring it when the world is saved by a hair's breadth.

Remember the quote I posted in your thread.

Quote:
To know the value of a year, ask a student who failed an exam.
To know the value of a month, ask a mother of a pre-mature child.
To know the value of a week, ask an editor of a weekly magazine.
To know the value of a day, ask a personal who is terminally ill.
To know the value of an hour, ask a departing loved one in an airport.
To know the value of a minute, ask someone who has missed their plane.
To know the value of a second, ask someone who lost a loved one in an accident.
To know the value of a millisecond, ask a silver medalist in the Olympics.


I kidded you not when I said that it always turns over in my head. Every moment matters, and saving a moment could save the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:59 pm


I know. But I stick to my principles even on the ride to hell, and I know, truely, I'll never thank you for censorship.

Joshua_Ritter
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[BlkCat]

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:32 pm


Joshua_Ritter
I know. But I stick to my principles even on the ride to hell, and I know, truely, I'll never thank you for censorship.


Amen, I hate it when people word things greater than I could lol.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:55 pm


your immaturity betrays you.
censorship is there specifically so you won't have access to it.
if you want to talk about delaying the inevitable then why haven't you killed yourself yet? you're going to die eventually, why not now?
however, if you didn't know that killing yourself was an option, the act wouldn't have been considered. for this reason (and a few others, of course), censoring was created.

CabrionDeluviant


Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:32 pm


Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:34 pm


TallonDagmar
your immaturity betrays you.
censorship is there specifically so you won't have access to it.
if you want to talk about delaying the inevitable then why haven't you killed yourself yet? you're going to die eventually, why not now?
however, if you didn't know that killing yourself was an option, the act wouldn't have been considered. for this reason (and a few others, of course), censoring was created.
Forgive me for being blunt, but that is complete bullshit.

This isn't about killing one person. It's about ending humanity. All human life. Now, if you don't believe that's inevitable, then I believe it's your immaturity that betrays you, Sir. But you don't see anyone running around with a pocket full of nuclear weapons, throwing them at little children, do you? I sure as hell hope not.

DrasBrisingr


DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:36 pm


Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:51 pm


DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.

Joshua_Ritter
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DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:54 pm


Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.
Oh, believe me, I know. But shh...don't tell them. I don't think they've figured it out yet.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:58 pm


DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.
Oh, believe me, I know. But shh...don't tell them. I don't think they've figured it out yet.

Oh.. shi- Nothing to see here, move along.

Joshua_Ritter
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Dapper Genius


ambrose_sallia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:39 pm


Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.
Oh, believe me, I know. But shh...don't tell them. I don't think they've figured it out yet.

Oh.. shi- Nothing to see here, move along.
- downloads the fact that "sir" is disdain dressed up as respect - =P You can't censor this fact any longer! I shall tell everyone! whee

Sorry, had to do that xd It was a humorous re-enactment of the past weeks events. Well, humorous to me, at least sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:43 pm


Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.
Oh, believe me, I know. But shh...don't tell them. I don't think they've figured it out yet.

Oh.. shi- Nothing to see here, move along.



I love you two...that is all...just wanted to point that out.....*trying so hard to contain his laughter*

[BlkCat]


Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:51 pm


ambrose_sallia
Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
DrasBrisingr
Joshua_Ritter
Immaturity, hmm? I've been called many things, but rarely immature. Are you suggesting the only reason I don't kill myself is because I didn't know it was an option, and that's why things are censored? Ha, was a miserable existence, to live in happiness only because you are ignorant. I am sorry you misunderstood my arguement. My position is that IF an idea is stronger than the people, then censoring them from it is only delaying the inevitable, so why even do it? That was a hypothetical. My position is that knowledge is NOT stronger than people, so we are NOT delaying the inevitable, and there is no need for censorship because people are stronger than the ideas they learn.

Your move, sir.
Damnit, Josh! You stole my "sir"! Shame on you.

I'm sorry, Dras. It's just that disdain dressed up as respect is just so damn fun. And I think you would know.
Oh, believe me, I know. But shh...don't tell them. I don't think they've figured it out yet.

Oh.. shi- Nothing to see here, move along.
- downloads the fact that "sir" is disdain dressed up as respect - =P You can't censor this fact any longer! I shall tell everyone! whee

Sorry, had to do that xd It was a humorous re-enactment of the past weeks events. Well, humorous to me, at least sweatdrop

Ambrose, you can't tell anyone! Sure, the knowledge of one disdaining joke is harmless by itself... but a few, select group of people might have the foresight to understand that this could apply to ALL distaining jokes... and the entire universe of insulting jokes would break down around us!


... I'm sorry, I had to.
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