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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:16 am
german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. Last I checked it wasn't... I like meat (at least in measured quanitites).. smile
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:31 am
toxic_lollipop Ah. Why I'm pro-life, this could take awhile.
Well firstly I'm about as pro-life as they come. I'm against the war (Which reminds me I still have to counter I.Am. I get around to it someday.) I'm against the death penalty, I'm against abortion, and I'm vegetarian.
Now if "But vegetables are living and you're killing them when you eat them!" popped into yourself, you obviously don't know how fruit/vegetables work.
You see they were designed for the soul purpose of being eaten. That's why all their seeds are where they are and why they're edible. When say, a deer eats an apple, they eat the whole thing. The seeds then pass through them and come out in their poop. What is supposed to happen then is a new apple tree will grow.
Also the whole eating eggs bull I already have a thread on.
My reasoning for not eating animals is a mixture between religion and morals, so it's not something I shove down anyone's throat. I believe everyone and everything is equal, as we are all part of Spirit. Every single living thing has Spirit within them and so every living this should be revered and their lives should be considered sacred.
I don't like getting bundles of flowers for dates and such because to me that's just sick. One I can stand, but I will probably pray to the flower when you're not looking and thank it for it's sacrifice.
As for the killing of fetuses that's completely an ethical thing. Which I DO have the right to shove down everyone and anyone's throat. Until murder is legalized I will continue shoving it down people's throat. The choicers all agree (or so it seems from the guild posts of theirs.) that a fetus is human. They have yet to come up with a scientifically correct explaination why a fetus is not living. All of their arguements are based on personal belief. (Believe me, I asked one of them for scientific evidence that a fetus is not alive and she said to give her time to research and I never heard from her again.)
If both of these are true (A fetus is human and living.), aborting a fetus is homicide.
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:11 am
german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. god I hope not, I was liking it so much....
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:31 am
liquidized Elternalmina Go veggies!!!They taste absolutely delicous! Have you tried some of the Asian veggies? I'm wanting to turn semi vegetarian. 3nodding Semi vegan? Is that possible? = If the answer's yes, I want to join too. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:41 am
lymelady german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. god I hope not, I was liking it so much....
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:47 am
cascadia lymelady german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. god I hope not, I was liking it so much....
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:51 am
cascadia Erm .. well, it's pro-life, and many vegetarians are, by principle, pro-life. So I suppose there will be quite a few vegetarians, but I'm sure not going to pick on anyone who is not one. 3nodding lol yeah, I know. a lot of people are also christian. I'm not trying to convert toxic, though. Actually...."HEATHEN! CONVERT! CONVERT!" Nah, jk, jk. I feel like I'd be vegetarian just because I don't really like killing of animals in such a large scale, but if I don't eat the meat in front of me, it goes to waste and then it's like, well the amount of meat I've sent to the trash has made 60 animal deaths completely wasted.....so I"d rather they die for something as opposed to dying just to be rejected and rotting in dumps. I'm big on dying for a purpose if you must die. More in regards to killing something, I mean, if it's going to be killed either way, it had better be put to use. You go hunting and kill something, EAT IT. You sending a cow to the slaughter house? You'd better use that money for something you need, and whoever buys that meat better eat it. I'm morbid, but...eh. At the same time, I realize that humans are omnivores and for the most part, meat is healthy for them when it's balanced with everything else. MAny vegetarians are very healthy, but they're dedicated to not eating meat and are smart about substitutes for the vital junk that meat gives us, most people aren't. And plus, I like steak, and I'm on the top of the food chain, so.... Yeah, I'm evil, but at least I try to be morally evil.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:28 am
toxic_lollipop liquidized Elternalmina Go veggies!!!They taste absolutely delicous! Have you tried some of the Asian veggies? I'm wanting to turn semi vegetarian. 3nodding Semi vegan? Is that possible? = If the answer's yes, I want to join too. sweatdrop Yea, my friend is a semi vegetarian. Speaking of bugs, have any of you been to Yum Cha in Chinatown? I went the other night, and they eat worms..like, specially farmed worms for cooking. Would anyone eat it for, say $50bucks? And would you call eating bugs being carnivorous or what? razz
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:05 am
liquidized Elternalmina Go veggies!!!They taste absolutely delicous! Have you tried some of the Asian veggies? I'm wanting to turn semi vegetarian. 3nodding Semi vegan? Is that possible? = If the answer's yes, I want to join too. sweatdrop I believe vegan is dif. from vegetarian. Vegan you don't eat eggs, milk, etc. So if you refuse to eat eggs but milks okay because it doesn't involve killing, then you're semi vegan, I guess. but I'd hope to high heaven we're all semi vegetarian, or we'd all be carnivores.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:22 pm
Why I am pro-life...well. Simple. Taking a life away is murder. The baby doesn't even have a chance at life, and what is worse is the baby doesn't even have a say. Abortion is a very touchy subject, and I won't lie. It did take me a while to make up my own mind. The thing that made my mind up was my parents were driving me to some random town and I saw a billboard that said, "You can abort today.", or something like that. It made my heart sink. Babies are a new life, and they should be able to do whatever they want with thier life.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:38 pm
DyingButterfly Why I am pro-life...well. Simple. Taking a life away is murder. The baby doesn't even have a chance at life, and what is worse is the baby doesn't even have a say. Abortion is a very touchy subject, and I won't lie. It did take me a while to make up my own mind. The thing that made my mind up was my parents were driving me to some random town and I saw a billboard that said, "You can abort today.", or something like that. It made my heart sink. Babies are a new life, and they should be able to do whatever they want with thier life. my sister made up her mind in a similar way....she saw an ad for an abortion clinic. on the lawn of a CATHOLIC SCHOOL. Every time the school took it down, they'd put another one up. They finally called the police, but they didn't wanna get involved. So....lol, made up my sister's mind, "Well, that's just not right. Actually, the whole thing just isn't right, what was I thinking?"
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:00 am
I just made up my mind on abortion, from what I believe in.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:01 am
Elternalmina I just made up my mind on abortion, from what I believe in. that's good. It's hard for some people though because you weigh the rights of a woman to her bodily integrity to the rights of an unseen, unknown person. It's like how people can say, "What's wrong with the draft?" until their son or daughter is drafted and suddenly that vague persons between 19-21 or whatever turns into...Sally, or James. This is Jane, a fetus about 4 weeks old is developing in her womb, is different than, This is Jane, Kimmy is about 4 weeks old in Jane's womb. While a fetus is a fetus, it isn't personalized, there's no face attached to the death. Looking back after Kimmy's birth, she was Kimmy at 4 weeks in the womb. That 4 week old fetus in retrospect has a face. Has a person attached to it, has someone that you know, with a personality and an individual character attached to that 4 week old fetus. It isn't just a 4 week old fetus, it's Kimmy, my granddaughter, my friend, my daughter, my niece, my inspiration, the love of my life. Just like it isn't persons between 19 and 21, it's James or Sally...my child, my friend, my granchild, my lover, my spouse. Once it gets personal it's harder to make that choice, "the draft is great," or "ABortion should be an option for any woman." That's why they never personalize a fetus, and hate that fetuses are technically baby's. By definition. Baby= an unborn or recently born child. I believe. Websters. I'm not sure about the "child" part, maybe it's "offspring" but the unborn part is true. It is a baby. And they can't stand us using that term because it gives a fetus a face. Which evokes more sympathy, a fetus or a baby? Which would make you angrier? Killed the fetus, killed the baby. I mean, verbally, which word, fetus or baby, has a bigger impact psychologically and emotionally? But as technology advances....abortion will be illegal unless used as a last resort, eventually, but I fight for those in danger before that time. Just one, just saving one would be worth all the effort to me.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:28 am
german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. Non! This guild is for people who are against abortion, regardless of their other views. stressed As was said by others, most of the people here love meat. xd There are certain reasons I.Am (Ha, I'm so witty...) for the war (Not Pro-War, but for this war). And I'm not going to clutter this thread up with what are essentially copies from the "Bush 04 Wootness" thread. sweatdrop I am against sport-hunting, but not against hunting in general. My beliefs are, if you are going to eat it or sell it to someone who will eat it, it's all good for me. However, if you are going to shoot it, skin it, and toss the carcass in the trash... No, there's something wrong with that. I am for the death penalty, because I believe that a criminal who knows that they are committing a crime punishable by death is, essentially, forfeiting their life. Though I would prefer that they merely be put in an extremely uncomfortable prison, deep underground away from civilization... This seems like an improbable thing, not to mention that it would be argued as inhumane. stressed
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:14 pm
I.Am german_bar_wench I'm pro-gun, pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-meat. If this is going to be a vegitarian/vegan guild I'll go elsewhere. Non! This guild is for people who are against abortion, regardless of their other views. stressed As was said by others, most of the people here love meat. xd There are certain reasons I.Am (Ha, I'm so witty...) for the war (Not Pro-War, but for this war). And I'm not going to clutter this thread up with what are essentially copies from the "Bush 04 Wootness" thread. sweatdrop I am against sport-hunting, but not against hunting in general. My beliefs are, if you are going to eat it or sell it to someone who will eat it, it's all good for me. However, if you are going to shoot it, skin it, and toss the carcass in the trash... No, there's something wrong with that. I am for the death penalty, because I believe that a criminal who knows that they are committing a crime punishable by death is, essentially, forfeiting their life. Though I would prefer that they merely be put in an extremely uncomfortable prison, deep underground away from civilization... This seems like an improbable thing, not to mention that it would be argued as inhumane. stressed I hope that Non wasn't french..... stare heh, how about draft dodgers? Such brave people.....
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