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 Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:55 am
Gotta be honest, all you've said makes sense but I never understood the whole destroy the nexus and keeping their powers thing. Plus I might have missed an explination for this but remember the episode where malinda Warren shows them how there powers are derived from nature, well how does the nexus fit in with that?shorely they don't need it if they can summon up all the power that nature holds within it? Although I guess the nexus is a natural power hold within nature.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:02 am
ChoreoG! Gotta be honest, all you've said makes sense but I never understood the whole destroy the nexus and keeping their powers thing. Plus I might have missed an explination for this but remember the episode where malinda Warren shows them how there powers are derived from nature, well how does the nexus fit in with that?shorely they don't need it if they can summon up all the power that nature holds within it? Although I guess the nexus is a natural power hold within nature. The Nexus is a good force that could sway the balance from good to evil, if evil got a hold of it. It's a powerboost for the most part, but I always thought they'd lose their powers, because the elders were like "Vanquish the Sexun." and it was a big deat.
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:17 pm
Plus Phoebes powers are very passive. Yes empathy is fairly powerful but not as powerful as being able to blow things up.
I believe that Wyatt is all powerful because he was the first born of the charmed ones children.
Plus Prue was very powerful, and she was the first born so its only natural that Wyatt would be powerful aswell. In my opinion they made Wyatt just a little bit too strong.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:35 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:26 pm
Grim_Reaper_Rules I know why Wyatt is more powerful then Chris itis because all first borns are stronger then any brother or sister same with Piper t the other Charmed ones plus Wyatt is the son of the eldest Charmed one so that gotta be some thing Piper didnt become the eldest until Prue died, therefore he is not really the son of the eldest but I see what you are saying. I think Wyatt is so powerful just due to when he was born. Remember that episode, all signs were aligned for that night. One thing I want to point out though, why doesnt Chris have more powers then he does? He was conceived by an Elder..while Leo was just a Whitelighter when Wyatt was conceived.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:53 am
All of these theory's make alot of sense that I had never thought of before. I need to watch the eps again and pay more attention to the detail.
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:30 am
OMG, that accually makes sense if you think about it!
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:44 pm
Well, in opinion, I think theres a point to that. But if you remember, a curse was placed on Phoebe's soul in her past life. Keeping her from getting the powers she had in the past. As well as making sure she did not live past a certain time. They had to break the curse, but that was why Phoebe's powers were so passive. They were still powerful though, just in a different direction.
As for why Chris wasn't more powerful being he was the son of an elder. Well, Wyatt was considered a chosen one. He was supposed to be this chosen power. But, as with Phoebe, Wyatt was born in the house and is more suseptable to evil just as Phoebe is. Wyatt had all the cosmos telling people of his arrival. Magic was even taken out of the world till he was brought into it. Hence why he was more powerful then Chris. Wyatt was apart of some prophecy where as Chris was not. If you notice, Paige was also the daughter of a white lighter and her and Chris' power levels were about the same. *shrugs* That's my two cents anyhow.
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:43 am
[Husk Karima] I posted this in another Charmed Guild and someone brought to my attention that when Cole and Phoebe were still married, does anyone remember the chocolates The Seer wanted Cole to give to Phoebe to boost the power of their baby? Anyone else remember that Piper had a piece then found out she was pregnate with Wyatt? Iiiinnnteresting! I see what you mean? but the chocolate only lasted a certain amount of time(like a day) that's why Cole was in such a rush to give her the chocolate before the honeymoon..... and Piper did not get pregnant with Wyatt until later and so the chocolate had no effect on the baby otherwise it would not be a whitelighter/witch it would be a evil source/seer baby....
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:54 am
lordbirch 13lackMagic [Celtic Knots] I posted this in another Charmed Guild and someone brought to my attention that when Cole and Phoebe were still married, does anyone remember the chocolates The Seer wanted Cole to give to Phoebe to boost the power of their baby? Anyone else remember that Piper had a piece then found out she was pregnate with Wyatt? Iiiinnnteresting! hmm... that's very interesting actually... I didn't remember the chocolates thing though... hm.. I remember the chocolates, but i wasn't to make the baby stronger, it was used so that it be easier for Phobe to get in the "mood" and be able to concieve faster. that was the seer's trick she wanted Cole/Source to believe that it did that as well......the fact that Piper got horny after eating one... but the baby was never Phoebe's the baby was the seer's
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:20 pm
Okay first off... the chocolates where simply a sexual stimulant to get Cole and Phoebe to have the baby in the first place. It was the tonic the Seer made that was to sway Phoebe to evil because it had the Seer's blood in it. She had to keep drinking it to keep her more evil and to strengthen the baby.
The baby was Phoebe's but since it was so evil she didn't consider it hers, because Phoebe was such a good witch. It wasn't the Seer's baby... it was Phoebe's.
Next off Yes Phoebe and Wyatt are more proned to evil because they were born in the house... they tell you that in the Woogyman Episode which is the start of the Idea of the Nexis. As you recall the Woogy is the spirirt which hides in the Nexis and uses the power. The Source Baby and when Future Phoebe kills that man prove she can become evil.
The Nexis Neither good nor evil... it just is. As you recall it moves from Zankou to Leo. The Nexis was the power of the house... but so is the Power of three making the house still the Sister's power base even after the Nexis is destroyed. As they show you when The Three Demons trap them in the doll house and use the power of three, because they are in the sister's "Power Base"
So yeas you could say that it makes sense that Wyatt would also be more easily swayed to Evil because he was also born in the house. This explains why Future Wyatt became evil. And again when the Teddy Bear is infected and infects Wyatt with Evil.
But this isnt way Wyatt is so powerful and more so then Chris. It wasn't the Nexis, or him being firstborn. It was because he was THE TWICE BLESSED CHILD. He was the prophasized Child... with a legend to his birth. He was born as the most powerful child in the world. Probably more powerful then the Charmed Ones. He was Born to the Charmed ones because they were the most powerful... and he got Charmed Powers, which they tell you in Season 8 when Billie and Christy use Wyatt's powers to get the Hollow. And since the Charmed ones were so powerful they could protect such an important baby.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:46 pm
The curse on Phoebe was lifted when they wen't back in time and saved her. That isn't, in my mind, the reason she had passive powers. She was given premonition because all of the charmed ones were given one of the powers of Melinda, who had three powers: Temporal Status[Piper's freezing power], Telekinesis [Prue's power/Paige's Telekinetic-Orbing], and Premonition[Phoebe's power] And the powers were split between the three girls.
And then all of the sisters were given powers matching the power they had. Prue was given a power that she could use to help her move from place ot place to hit enemies with her Telekinetic attacks. Piper was given the opposite of her first power, because her powers consisted of slowing molecules down, so she now could speed them up to the point they explode in millions of directions. And it would make sense given Phoebe's ability to see the future and sometimes past, that she was given the ability to now feel the things she saw and the people she helped. Which also was given to her by the Elders to help her with her column for the paper and to help her find love... something the Elders were always trying to do. But Phoebe was the first to get a true third power by the Elders. She had an active power she could levitate, which was given to her since before she had it she took a bunch of fighting classes. So now she could float up and attack the demons with her kicks and other martial arts moves.
That's how I see it anyways. I don't think it has anything to do with the curse, because they lifted that and because she had to be given the power that Melinda had, and since Prue's past life and Piper's past life had their powers, it made sense that they kept those powers so they could be stronger as charmed ones.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:52 am
yeah the chocolates were to make Phoebe more fertile, thats why Piper got pregnant. the seer wanted phoebe and cole to have a baby right away so that phoebe would be evil forever.....
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:07 pm
Kind of.
Wyatt was not born because of the chocolates... they were not fertility drugs... they were hormone busters... they put her in "the mood" as the Seer could foresee her as in the right stage of the month to get pregnant... the chocolates also had that effect on Piper and Leo... making them also go at it like jack rabbits.
But the chocolates did not have any effect on her fertility itself. As Phoebe found out she was pregnant long before Piper did... and had the chocolates made Piper pregnant as well, both the Source-child and Wyatt would have been introduced around the same time. But the Source child was conceived about a half season or so before.
In fact it was the Elders or perhaps the Angel of Destiny who allowed Piper to get pregnant, even after the doctor's said she was too badly wounded to have children. They knew Wyatt was the Twice blessed Child and so they "changed" that fact about her not being able to conceive.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:30 pm
While Chris's whitelighter powers were the same as Paige's. It was the Witch powers that made them different.
Wyatt was strong because he was the twice blessed child, it meant all of his powers were stronger then everyone. He was a stronger witch, and whitelighter. He also had charmed powers, not just the power of a charmed one... but also the Power of Three Kind of Charmed Power. Chris was never told as having charmed power, part of his witch side.
Chris was a strong whitelighter, but only as strong as an average whitelighter, including Paige. He did however have Witches powers, Telekinesis was shown as his power. This power was shown as weaker then Wyatt's. His whitelighter power was strong almost like an elder as a baby we see him being able to Orb Wyatt from the Manor to Victor's Apartment. Something Paige and Leo as an Elder could do, but regular Whitelighters cant.
Paige had strong Whitelighter powers, but only that of an average whitelighter, like Chris or Leo as an Elder. It was her Witch side with Charmed [Power of Three] Power that made her strong. Paige is shown as having enhanced whitelighter powers, being about on the level of an Elder... she could orb people from very far away, something we see Elder Leo and Gideon do... but no regular whitelighter.
As we know Whitelighters are either born of A whitelighter and someone... or a dead person who is given the chance to be a whitelighter. This makes them a species of Magical Creature.
But...
An Elder is either a whitelighter who is advanced in powers and rank... in terms of Leo being promoted... or is a magical creature who is chosen and given the powers of a former Elder... shown when the young witch boy with projection powers is made a retiring Elder's powers. This makes the Elders not a specific species, but a group of magical creatures even similar powers upon gaining the status. Much like the Avatars.
This means that Chris would not have more powers or be stronger, because Elder is a status not a species... so he's just a whitelighter-witch, not an Elder-witch [Because they don't exist]. So Chris is not stronger, even though he was born of Leo as an Elder.
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