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 Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:56 pm
che_hyun Aiko_589 i hope you know the stroke order is: ー 十 あI do, it's just my hand doesn't quite make the last stroke right. It doesn't with all of the characters with the の shape in them. Another thing: I have a habit of tilting the end of the last stroke upward a little on letters such as は or ほ. It's caused by an English habit (most especially when writing in cursive) where the end of the letter usually turns upwards a bit if it ends in the lower right hand corner. Like this: http://www.freewebs.com/freya_h/aha_ex.bmpI've been trying to break the habit, but I also have another habit of not being able to concentrate when I'm writing. And thus, my problem gets worse. thats very unacceptable.
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:58 pm
che_hyun I have terrible English handwriting (yeah! I go really fast when I write, so it looks like a doctor's signature on everything!), and I'm having some trouble with Hiragana...most particularly the 'の' and all the characters that have a part of it like that one. I CAN NOT make a pretty-looking あ. It's just not in my range of abilities. I always wondered how Japanese people were able to do so many strokes and still write efficently. Now I know. Thanks. あ is the hardest character for me too. I don't know why. It always ends up looking like a combination of "d" and "t". Anyway, I memorized hiragana five years ago, and have practiced it diligently ever since. And it still looks ugly. My teacher says I'm getting better, though. But the cool thing about Aiko's showing us the normal way people right is it helped me realize how you can't rely on books for that sort of thing. Like, my friend Mika was teaching me some Hiroshima dialect, but I could barely read her handwriting because it looks so different from typed characters. gonk
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:13 pm
That's how mine tends to look. I would practice writing right now, but I've got too much to do. And it just might be the way I hold my pencil. I always have it slanted at like 45゜ because it feels more natural. I can't seem to hold it any other way... xp
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:26 am
Aiko_589  thats how 冷 should be written. seriously? They look almost completely different, save for the radical. My teacher always takes a bunch of points off my assignments unless I write them how they are in the book.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:18 pm
Koichi2005 Aiko_589 thats how 冷 should be written. seriously? They look almost completely different, save for the radical. My teacher always takes a bunch of points off my assignments unless I write them how they are in the book. well then your teachers an idiot and you should rub it in her face how your better than her.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:19 pm
is that how most people actually write 女? i write it nicely, but not super-round like that. i barely even recognized it, actually. i've never seen it written that round before...
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:30 pm
ferretclaw is that how most people actually write 女? i write it nicely, but not super-round like that. i barely even recognized it, actually. i've never seen it written that round before... How can you not recognixe it? if you cant recognize that your going to have trouble in japan.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:03 pm
Aiko_589 ferretclaw is that how most people actually write 女? i write it nicely, but not super-round like that. i barely even recognized it, actually. i've never seen it written that round before... How can you not recognixe it? if you cant recognize that your going to have trouble in japan. of course i recognized it, i know hundreds of kanji, i said i BARELY recognized it, which means i had to think about it for a second. it seems too curvy to me. you say it looks "nicer" but it seems more sloppy to me. however, i suppose that it is true that sometimes sloppy = more natural. that's why i asked if most people write it that way (that curvy).
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:26 pm
ferretclaw Aiko_589 ferretclaw is that how most people actually write 女? i write it nicely, but not super-round like that. i barely even recognized it, actually. i've never seen it written that round before... How can you not recognixe it? if you cant recognize that your going to have trouble in japan. of course i recognized it, i know hundreds of kanji, i said i BARELY recognized it, which means i had to think about it for a second. it seems too curvy to me. you say it looks "nicer" but it seems more sloppy to me. however, i suppose that it is true that sometimes sloppy = more natural. that's why i asked if most people write it that way (that curvy). some people write it like: ~three lines ~a scribble resembling め `you dont even want to know how business people write it.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:42 am
ferretclaw Aiko_589 ferretclaw is that how most people actually write 女? i write it nicely, but not super-round like that. i barely even recognized it, actually. i've never seen it written that round before... How can you not recognixe it? if you cant recognize that your going to have trouble in japan. of course i recognized it, i know hundreds of kanji, i said i BARELY recognized it, which means i had to think about it for a second. it seems too curvy to me. you say it looks "nicer" but it seems more sloppy to me. however, i suppose that it is true that sometimes sloppy = more natural. that's why i asked if most people write it that way (that curvy). Really? That's how my Japanese teacher taught us to write it and I write it that way, too. It looks fine to me. Round handwriting is neater to me, actually, but that is just my opinion. Also, Aiko, thank you for posting this. It's really useful! My kanji look better now. x3
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:27 pm
wow, I just saw the difference recently. After having a pen pal who wrote to me in Enlgish write to me in Japanese, I wanted to cry. Her hand writing wasn't bad, but Very difficult to translate, especially for an intermediate student. T.T'
This is amazing, and Thank you for writing it, I didn't know so many things were different untill I recently started to think about it. It's nice to hear some incite.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:29 pm
I geuss the round is a bit like the females bubbly writing, it looks much neater, but it is a bit difficult to understand at first if you are not used to it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:51 pm
Aiko_589 you dont even want to know how business people write it. Hee hee, sort of like a doctor's signature. Those ones are basically just squiggly lines.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:53 pm
i ve always wondered how they read those...they were probabaly taught how in medical school xd
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:34 pm
I'm going to be a doctor, so I guess I'll have to learn the art of the doctor's signature! xD
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