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Scathach13

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:05 pm


QueenOfMallets
Scathach13
Um... no. Not really. That doesn't make any sense, considering the KH setting, and just... how it flows. Uh... *blinks* Just um... no.

Well you can atleast you can back up why my theory is not correct and not just say "Um no you're wrong."


I can't technically disprove what you're saying, but, knowing Nomura, he'd never do that. It's far too... simplistic. "Yays I ams de strongest and Is pawns uoos alls ph33r me!!!" doesn not a ruler of Kingdom Hearts make. Joking. ^^" Seriously... I just can't see him doing something that... well, childish, in terms of plot device. Plus, it has too much baring on the game as a whole, and the crown issue was there BEFORE Sora started beating people up.

*sighs*

I am just... not in a mood for a decent argument right now. I'm sorry, I just... can't come up with anything better at the moment. *sweatdrops*
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:29 pm


Well, it's better to present an arguement rather than being rude and just saying "No you're wrong." Believe me I had to deal with debate class and it got on my nerves.
Anyway, I wasn't saying Nomura was making a dumb plot of the main character acting like a god mod. I was just refering Sora as the symbol of hero of the story. Much like Kings or Rulers were referred to as heroes, but that's back in the day symbols I might have been thinking of. Mickey is considered the King of his world in the game, so it might have been referring to Mickey's connection with the keyblade master. He also had his symbol (Circle with Mouse Ears) on the Keyblade Sora has.

QueenOfMallets
Crew


quail_duped

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:31 am


I noticed the second thing you said, Scathach13, when I played the game. There are a lot of pictures around the mansion that could contain hidden sybolism, not unlike the secret hideout from the first game. (People go look at the walls in the cave I swear there is a pic of Sora being forced to bow to a king Riku. Or maybe I just have wishful thinking... sweatdrop ) I liked how all of Namine's pictures show her instead of Kairi, I found that amusing. Anyway there are a few pictures that Namine drew that I can't place and so I don't know if they've already showed up or if it's a sign of things to come.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:15 pm


o.o I noticed that too! I was like ">>...Diz=Bigger fruitcup than Demyx."

Anyone notice that none of Namine's drawns are of Sora and Kairi? It's all Sora and Riku, or Axel and Roxas, or just them by themselves.

I think they designed Namine after us fangirls. o.o -cough-


There are so many hidden messages. ;3 I'll post more laters~

-off to list down the many hidden symbols-

Dr_Kael


Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:27 pm


I thought there was a Sora/Kairi picture in the mansion. In the second floor hallway, maybe? I've heard it was that one on the floor...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:39 pm


ya, I saw all the unicorns ^_^ but... what does it mean?

I wonder... did anyone else get angry at that huge star in traverse town area 3 because it didnt do anything? well ever realised how... shall we say... obssed Roxas is with stars? just like the traverse town one? XP dont know if it means anything but yeah... i just happened to notice.

and yes, a long time ago i played KH1 and looked real close at all the drawings and saw nothing of much interest. but maybe if we go back we can recognise some things. i do vaguely recall seeing the disney castle XP

Gelatinous Fire

Desirable Humorist


Dr_Kael

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:11 pm


:0 if you look closely at the ones on the wall, in the white room, there's an akuroku picture, and then there's one on the floor of sora, Riku, and Roxas.

xD I saw it, and being the major perv I am went "ZOMIGAWD THREESOME!"

>> << -ahem- But yeah, take a look.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:46 am


Hmmm, If you don't mind just so I can keep myself on subject I'm going to quote the first post so I can answer.

The first one is the constant repeating image of a star, or stars, in KH2. It's possibly a reference to the worlds, but... It seems a little too simple and explanation. I don't know. I'm not thinking terribly clearly at the moment, honestly...

While sure, Stars could have a deeper meaning in Kingdom Hearts, You can't simply overlook the simple stuff. Sure, they put it in the game, but if you look at the -entire- game like one little riddle box, that isn't fun at all. If you look up into the sky and there aren't any stars out that isn't any fun. Most of the damage Sora deals in both games, are in the forms of stars. In most cartoons, when a character gets hit, they see stars. It could just be the Disney of the game.

Now on the other hand, there have a been a few serious issues with stars. Like the shape of the fruit from the first game and the key-chain of the oath-keeper which is simply the charm Sora received in Kingdom Hearts I.


Oath-Keeper


The Unicorn.

I know nothing about this subject, I didn't spend too much time looking over the entire mansion. It was a quick run in run out. I would figure Unicorn's to simply be a sort of decoration, since you can't have an empty mansion. I mean, I looked at the castle in the glass case in the center of the lobby of the mansion for awhile that was about it. As for the pictures, I figured they would relate to chain of memories. Could be wrong, nothing is written in stone after all.

Sora's crown-thing


Jewelry. Without it, Sora would look kinda empty if you ask me, not to mention each character needs some sort of trademark. The only other times I can think of that Sora's crown was really pointed out would be “The shape of the cards in COM.” “Sora's (Final form I think it is.) In Halloween Town in KHII.” For symbolism, it could mean a lot more, it could mean less, like the piece of metal it is, can't jump to conclusions until S-E gets around to the third game.

Just my thoughts on the subject...

Dim


Scathach13

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:58 pm


QueenOfMallets
Well, it's better to present an arguement rather than being rude and just saying "No you're wrong." Believe me I had to deal with debate class and it got on my nerves.
Anyway, I wasn't saying Nomura was making a dumb plot of the main character acting like a god mod. I was just refering Sora as the symbol of hero of the story. Much like Kings or Rulers were referred to as heroes, but that's back in the day symbols I might have been thinking of. Mickey is considered the King of his world in the game, so it might have been referring to Mickey's connection with the keyblade master. He also had his symbol (Circle with Mouse Ears) on the Keyblade Sora has.


First of all, I'd like to appologise for being rude. You are correct that it was rather abnoxious of me, and now that I look back on it I find myself rather embarrised that that was how I responded...

Now, about the stars, just an amusing observation - mind you, I don't think this seriously, but... it made me crack up when I thought of it. Heh. ^^"

...Now, it isn't very common, but there is a bit of a history behind the star being a symbol of homosexuality. I don't know very much on the subject, but... just the thought... considering... *snickers* Ah, ignore me... I should be shot. Well, maybe just hit over the head...

On that note, just a quite nod to Axel...

"The phoenix, representing the ability of the p***s to erect and resurrect itself sexually, has long symbolized male homosexuality." - Wikipedia. xd

What a paragon of maturity I am today...
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:47 pm


xD I wonder if that's there the phrase, "Flaming homosexual," comes from...

Wait...Do we really need a mythological creature to prove that Axel is gay? ='D

Torrina Shirogane


Hakkaibisho

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:49 pm


I ALWAYS wondered what was up with the unicorns. Who's mansion was it anyways?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:57 pm


Hmm...I don't know. Wasn't it just an abandoned mansion used by DiZ and "Ansem" as a hideout? =/

Torrina Shirogane


Scathach13

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:35 pm


The question is who owned it origionally... I'm willing to bet it's going to show up in KH2. Also, there was a lot of broken statues - one that appeared to be a model of a castle, strange statuteish, trophy-like items topped with moons and stars... The whole place is very mysterious. Also, the back. I am CONVINCED there is something important back there, behind the glass doors - and also, something in that room that is blocked off.

Edit: Sorry, I mean either KH2FM+ or KH3... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:46 am


Ah, too bad I am German... I understand what you write but I can't tell what I think about it... Nobody here would understand my terrible English. xDDD So just very short:

But I noticed many of this things, too. The stars, and crowns and unicorns and all that ^_^ But I just got KH2 last month when it came out here in Europe so I had not so much time yet...
In KH1 I spend hours and hours just looking around and searching things that most people would never notice...

In KH2 there were some things that are interesting, too. But most of what I discovered is only decoration or something like that I think. Like all the clocks at Santa Clause's house show a different time... Or that Xehanort wears the same boots like the Organization~ But okay, that's not about symbolism...

About the crown thing... I think it has something to do with the title... "Kingdom" Hearts. Just something that fits and everyone could remember~

The stars... There were really many in Twilight Town~ Everywhere stars and the moon. I don't know maybe there is a reason for that or maybe it's just decoration. Or the symbol for Roxas? Like the Crown is for Sora?

II Roxas II


HenricoSZ

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:19 pm


Err... I feel so left out. *goes to look for unicorns*
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