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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:30 am
Maybe its just me, but I think the Japanese national anthum is pretty uninsteresting. Then again, the only reason I like the US anthum is because it used to be an old English drinking song. hehe Its very sad how many young Japanese people don't even know their own anthum.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:36 am
bakahito Maybe its just me, but I think the Japanese national anthum is pretty uninsteresting. Then again, the only reason I like the US anthum is because it used to be an old English drinking song. hehe Its very sad how many young Japanese people don't even know their own anthum. um what? many know ^^ its on tv, you have to do it in a few places to. besides, if the dont know it yet they will, because some places to work require you to sing it .
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:41 am
Aiko_589 bakahito Maybe its just me, but I think the Japanese national anthum is pretty uninsteresting. Then again, the only reason I like the US anthum is because it used to be an old English drinking song. hehe Its very sad how many young Japanese people don't even know their own anthum. um what? many know ^^ its on tv, you have to do it in a few places to. besides, if the dont know it yet they will, because some places to work require you to sing it . I thought that there was a big controversy about teachers not wanting to sing the anthum in class. I am pretty sure that the High Court ruled in their favor. I do not think that anyone should be forced to sing an anthum any where at any time. Since I am not a Japanese citizen, I would never want to be forced to sing something like that and even Japanese citizens should have the right to choose.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:42 am
bakahito Aiko_589 bakahito Maybe its just me, but I think the Japanese national anthum is pretty uninsteresting. Then again, the only reason I like the US anthum is because it used to be an old English drinking song. hehe Its very sad how many young Japanese people don't even know their own anthum. um what? many know ^^ its on tv, you have to do it in a few places to. besides, if the dont know it yet they will, because some places to work require you to sing it . I thought that there was a big controversy about teachers not wanting to sing the anthum in class. I am pretty sure that the High Court ruled in their favor. I do not think that anyone should be forced to sing an anthum any where at any time. Since I am not a Japanese citizen, I would never want to be forced to sing something like that and even Japanese citizens should have the right to choose. You dont have to because your not a citizen. its s not sung at schools.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:48 am
But students do have to sing it at special school events and when the flag is raised.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:56 am
Japans never been the same after you bombeed us. the government is so afraid that people will give up their japanese culture. no one minds the flag and anthem, Its is just so the goverment tries to hard to make people do it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:31 pm
Aiko_589 Japans never been the same after you bombeed us. the government is so afraid that people will give up their japanese culture. no one minds the flag and anthem, Its is just so the goverment tries to hard to make people do it. Um...last time I checked, I never bomed your country because I happen to be living it stare I love you Ultra Nationalist Party types, you always make us gaijin peoples feel so welcome crying
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:19 pm
bakahito Aiko_589 Japans never been the same after you bombeed us. the government is so afraid that people will give up their japanese culture. no one minds the flag and anthem, Its is just so the goverment tries to hard to make people do it. Um...last time I checked, I never bomed your country because I happen to be living it stare I love you Ultra Nationalist Party types, you always make us gaijin peoples feel so welcome crying mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:02 pm
bakahito Aiko_589 Japans never been the same after you bombeed us. the government is so afraid that people will give up their japanese culture. no one minds the flag and anthem, Its is just so the goverment tries to hard to make people do it. Um...last time I checked, I never bomed your country because I happen to be living it stare I love you Ultra Nationalist Party types, you always make us gaijin peoples feel so welcome crying aww, come on! I wouldn't mind Aiko's nationalist side, it's quite interesting! You probably know many Japanese people, and so do I and many other people on this forum, so I guess it's good we learn more about Japan's cultural side by all their differences.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:52 pm
To make something clear off the bat, I view nationalists of any country with extreme disdain and ire, and I hold a general opnion of them to be ignorant, afraid of change and very -phobia centered.
Now, with that said, I think Gaijin from most non Asian countries have it a lot easier than most foreigners in Japan.
"Although some have become permanent residents or even naturalized citizens, they are generally perceived as short-term visitors and treated as outsiders to Japanese society. For some, it is hard to find the Japanese myth of "them and us" because of Japanese hospitality."
~Wikipedia entry on Gaijin
This is in contrast to how the Japanese treat Burakumin(The Japanese word for those from the ghetto), Chinese, or Koreans(which is basicaly the same view of a common street thug, ready to take what they can, by whatever means they have) Many outsiders of Japan are generally seen as a stain on the countries purity, and something to be cast out of the society. And even if they are hired for jobs, it is usually only became of their outside association, and is usually only for a role to poke fun at, or emphasize it(English teachers may, or may not fall into this category).
"In 1991 there were 1.2 million foreign residents in Japan, less than 1.0 % of Japan's population. Of this number, 693,100 (about 57 %) were Koreans and 171,100 (some 14 %) were Chinese."
~Wikipedia Entry on Japanese Demographics
As you can see, the foreign presence is overall small, and a target of many Japanese natives' anger over the state of the society. The fact that Article 14 of the Consitution of Japan does not apply to discrimination committed by private individuals or establishments or legal discrimination based on citizenship only further fuels whatever actions they choose to take against them. I personally find it appaling that calling someone a fool has more of a legal presence than any hate speech that gets thrown their way, but that's just me. I want to see a world where there's no hate, or discrimination, or anything thhat causes ire, or resentment. However, when I realize how much would have to be sacrificed, to make this reality, I know that this is nothing more than a fantasy, never to be attained, unless many basic human things are given up.
This has been Koiyuki's politically charged rant for the day. You may now return to your happy go lucky world, already in progress. xP
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:56 pm
Koiyuki To make something clear off the bat, I view nationalists of any country with extreme disdain and ire, and I hold a general opnion of them to be ignorant, afraid of change and very -phobia centered. Now, with that said, I think Gaijin from most non Asian countries have it a lot easier than most foreigners in Japan. "Although some have become permanent residents or even naturalized citizens, they are generally perceived as short-term visitors and treated as outsiders to Japanese society. For some, it is hard to find the Japanese myth of "them and us" because of Japanese hospitality." ~Wikipedia entry on Gaijin This is in contrast to how the Japanese treat Burakumin(The Japanese word for those from the ghetto), Chinese, or Koreans(which is basicaly the same view of a common street thug, ready to take what they can, by whatever means they have) Many outsiders of Japan are generally seen as a stain on the countries purity, and something to be cast out of the society. And even if they are hired for jobs, it is only became of their outside association, and is usually only for a role to poke fun at it. "In 1991 there were 1.2 million foreign residents in Japan, less than 1.0 % of Japan's population. Of this number, 693,100 (about 57 %) were Koreans and 171,100 (some 14 %) were Chinese." ~Wikipedia Entry on Japanese Demographics As you can see, the foreign presence is overall small, and a target of many Japanese natives' anger over the state of the society. The fact that Article 14 of the Consitution of Japan does not apply to discrimination committed by private individuals or establishments or legal discrimination based on citizenship only further fuels whatever actions they choose to take against them. I personally find it appaling that calling someone a fool has more of a legal presence than any hate speech that gets thrown their way, but that's just me. I want to see a world where there's no hate, or discrimination, or anything thhat causes ire, or resentment. However, when I realize how much would have to be sacrificed, to make this reality, I know that this is nothing more than a fantasy, never to be attained. whites and blacks= japanese snub out of society chinese and koreans= japanese beat with sticks bukuramin= a person who was originally one of the lower classes hinin and eta. they cleaned toilets, skinned animal, killed coww, did everything our relgion thought was dirty. im not sure what ghetto means though
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:00 pm
Koiyuki To make something clear off the bat, I view nationalists of any country with extreme disdain and ire, and I hold a general opnion of them to be ignorant, afraid of change and very -phobia centered. Now, with that said, I think Gaijin from most non Asian countries have it a lot easier than most foreigners in Japan. "Although some have become permanent residents or even naturalized citizens, they are generally perceived as short-term visitors and treated as outsiders to Japanese society. For some, it is hard to find the Japanese myth of "them and us" because of Japanese hospitality." ~Wikipedia entry on Gaijin This is in contrast to how the Japanese treat Burakumin(The Japanese word for those from the ghetto), Chinese, or Koreans(which is basicaly the same view of a common street thug, ready to take what they can, by whatever means they have) Many outsiders of Japan are generally seen as a stain on the countries purity, and something to be cast out of the society. And even if they are hired for jobs, it is usually only became of their outside association, and is usually only for a role to poke fun at, or emphasize it(English teachers may, or may not fall into this category). "In 1991 there were 1.2 million foreign residents in Japan, less than 1.0 % of Japan's population. Of this number, 693,100 (about 57 %) were Koreans and 171,100 (some 14 %) were Chinese." ~Wikipedia Entry on Japanese Demographics As you can see, the foreign presence is overall small, and a target of many Japanese natives' anger over the state of the society. The fact that Article 14 of the Consitution of Japan does not apply to discrimination committed by private individuals or establishments or legal discrimination based on citizenship only further fuels whatever actions they choose to take against them. I personally find it appaling that calling someone a fool has more of a legal presence than any hate speech that gets thrown their way, but that's just me. I want to see a world where there's no hate, or discrimination, or anything thhat causes ire, or resentment. However, when I realize how much would have to be sacrificed, to make this reality, I know that this is nothing more than a fantasy, never to be attained, unless many basic human things are given up. This has been Koiyuki's politically charged rant for the day. You may now return to your world of J-pop, and Anime, already in progress. xP when i said you i meant america, geez, you take my english as good rolleyes 4laugh (i hav to put most my japanese in translator to post in english, other wise i cant say anything in english. you see i am not that good at inglish, i use a translator!) sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:03 pm
koiyuki's a man?! i that she was a girl.... oh well.
emo
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:05 pm
Aiko_589 whites and blacks= japanese snub out of society chinese and koreans= japanese beat with sticks bukuramin= a person who was originally one of the lower classes hinin and eta. they cleaned toilets, skinned animal, killed coww, did everything our relgion thought was dirty. im not sure what ghetto means though Ghetto-a place that's typically run down, with many undesirables making a home there, stereotypically bringing about social dissention, and violence, among other things. See Compton, and The Bronx
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:12 pm
Koiyuki Aiko_589 whites and blacks= japanese snub out of society chinese and koreans= japanese beat with sticks bukuramin= a person who was originally one of the lower classes hinin and eta. they cleaned toilets, skinned animal, killed coww, did everything our relgion thought was dirty. im not sure what ghetto means though Ghetto-a place that's typically run down, with many undesirables making a home there, stereotypically bringing about social dissention, and violence, among other things. See Compton, and The Bronx i really thought you were a girl *sigh* then i clicked your sig.
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