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ManateeMan

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:14 pm


Still measured from the same time though so meh. AD = Year of the lord in latin By the way, not after death if anyone doesn't know. Besides it's standard these days.

The currency issue doesn't even make a dent in me it's MONEY! You buy things with it - woohoo! If you don't like it then go live in the dumpster and forget having anymore happy meals
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:14 pm


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It's not used often, but there is an alternative to AD - BC

Basicially CE and BCE

Common Era, and Before Common Era.


....explane...what year would that make it...O_x

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:17 pm


it's measured from the same year except it doesn't say it's because of religious reasons
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:33 pm


All dating systems are completely arbitrary. There are numerous calendars, from the Mayan through the Hebrew to calendars of the Far East.

I would argue that one might date the detonation of the first atomic bomb in war to be a good 'year 0'. But honestly, it's totally irrelevant.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:48 am


what pisses me off more are blue laws. There really isnt a sepreation of church and state. For aslong as we are alive there is gonna be people who wanna make laws according to the bible. Such as Gay marriege.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:39 pm


Dude. Come on. It is the way that the years have been measured for a long long time. Even if they change it to BCE and CE, it will still be based around the birth of jesus, it will just have a different name. So what is the point? Anno Domini or Common Era. Does it really make a difference?

And the "IN GOD WE TRUST" I don't think there is any need to change that either. You're being more than a little ridiculous here.

You don't think its fair to have the "Christian" stuff shoved on atheists? Maybe its not fair for atheists to shove their atheism on the rest of the country for such arbitrary things as god on the nickels. Now for things such as prayers at schools and using the bible as a resource for law-making, that I think is wrong. But s**t like this? Deal with it and save you're anger for things that really matter.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:07 pm


shadowpunk360
redem
It's not used often, but there is an alternative to AD - BC

Basicially CE and BCE

Common Era, and Before Common Era.


....explane...what year would that make it...O_x


It would be the same year, just a different name. In other words, it would be 2006 CE.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:18 pm


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You don't think its fair to have the "Christian" stuff shoved on atheists? Maybe its not fair for atheists to shove their atheism on the rest of the country for such arbitrary things as god on the nickels. Now for things such as prayers at schools and using the bible as a resource for law-making, that I think is wrong. But s**t like this? Deal with it and save you're anger for things that really matter.


Of course it's fair for us to 'shove' our secular stuff down their throats. Everything is secular by default. Food, rocks, the sky... it's just what it is. Money should be just money. It shouldn't force non-religious people to lie every time they fork out for a packet of fags.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:57 pm


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woby

You don't think its fair to have the "Christian" stuff shoved on atheists? Maybe its not fair for atheists to shove their atheism on the rest of the country for such arbitrary things as god on the nickels. Now for things such as prayers at schools and using the bible as a resource for law-making, that I think is wrong. But s**t like this? Deal with it and save you're anger for things that really matter.


Of course it's fair for us to 'shove' our secular stuff down their throats. Everything is secular by default. Food, rocks, the sky... it's just what it is. Money should be just money. It shouldn't force non-religious people to lie every time they fork out for a packet of fags.



Wow. Its called being tolerant and not getting up in arms about something so arbitrary.

Just because it says IN GOD WE TRUST, does not mean non-religious people are lying by using it. I have books on Creationism to learn more about it. Does that mean I believe in Creationism? Nope. Am I lying by having something in my possesion that contradicts my beliefs? Nope.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:54 am


woby
gigacannon
woby

You don't think its fair to have the "Christian" stuff shoved on atheists? Maybe its not fair for atheists to shove their atheism on the rest of the country for such arbitrary things as god on the nickels. Now for things such as prayers at schools and using the bible as a resource for law-making, that I think is wrong. But s**t like this? Deal with it and save you're anger for things that really matter.


Of course it's fair for us to 'shove' our secular stuff down their throats. Everything is secular by default. Food, rocks, the sky... it's just what it is. Money should be just money. It shouldn't force non-religious people to lie every time they fork out for a packet of fags.



Wow. Its called being tolerant and not getting up in arms about something so arbitrary.

Just because it says IN GOD WE TRUST, does not mean non-religious people are lying by using it. I have books on Creationism to learn more about it. Does that mean I believe in Creationism? Nope. Am I lying by having something in my possesion that contradicts my beliefs? Nope.


There is a difference between secularism and atheism.

The US government is supposed to be secular, so having a reference to the christian god on your money is a breach of that ideal. As well as being a breach of US law.

Asking for the removal of it is not pushing atheism on religious people, it's demanding that the government hold itself to it's own secular laws, and stop promoting religious ideas.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:08 am


If you believe there is no god, why let it bother you that the money makers do?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:25 am


ManateeMan
If you believe there is no god, why let it bother you that the money makers do?

It doesn't. Their beliefs have no relevance to me.

It does bother me when a government breaks it's own rules though. It's a dangerous thing to let a government get away with.

Apart from that, it's just plain bad taste to display statements regarding one religion on public property.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:40 am


The whole breaking it's own rules thing is important yes, but why focus on the small fry and not some of the larger things?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:24 am


A government breaking it's own laws for the sake of religion is a big thing, if you ask me.

At best it sets a dangerous precedent.

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