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 Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:35 pm
I don't really Ki-hop anymore when I shadowbox, I do more of a crazy undeterred lunatic scream.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:23 pm
Cool thread.
As far as me, I've come to learn that any Kiai/Kihop which opens your jaw, is a possibility for a dislocated jaw... so I never unlock my jaws if I can help it. I also use the Boxer's Hiss, which Thaiboxing also adopted. However, when going for power knees, elbows, or kicks... I tend to hiss/growl making a "ssshhaa" type sound I suppose, or a "rrrressh" sound often used by Thaiboxers. If I'm working the clinch though, I usually only use short growls, because a knee or elbow can slip in at any time.
Incidentally, I practice it sooo much, that it has become the standard for all the other arts I train. I'd have to say... the stuff really does add about 30-40% more power to anyone who does it correctly, versus themselves without using it.
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Delmar_Denban Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:30 pm
Yeah that's the one. *Edits* Actually mine usually has an "m" in it somewhere like "mressssh" or "Himesssh" yeah that's it.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:51 pm
Capoeira doesn't have any such shout, although sometimes, when I "spar", I tend to use a quiet "hup" during some movements. But not very often.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:11 am
AxeFalador Capoeira doesn't have any such shout, although sometimes, when I "spar", I tend to use a quiet "hup" during some movements. But not very often. But you're already dancing, so if you were singing in addition, it would be too silly. I'm glad we don't have lyrics for kata... Note: kidding!
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:36 pm
Delmar_Denban Yeah that's the one. *Edits* Actually mine usually has an "m" in it somewhere like "mressssh" or "Himesssh" yeah that's it. hehe, oh ok... so that means that you have your mouth completely closed before you breathe on those?
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:30 pm
I favour kiai myself, simply because it's a natural sound I seem to make when I'm being tossed around. During those times, you don't think about what sound you make, you just do. Sometimes I stay quiet but when things really get going, I tend to shout out.
Why? It's not just a tensing of muscles, it is a way of control over your breathing. When you're shouting out, you're exhaling. A control of breathing is very important, especially in stamina during a fight. That's why fighting is not a quiet deal.
Then again for me, it's also a way to deal with the pain
sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:57 pm
In my style relaxation is key, and we just breathe normally in a fight.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:26 pm
Saajei In my style relaxation is key, and we just breathe normally in a fight. Oh definitely relaxation is the key (just in case you didn't know, I take Aikido, where relaxation is the number one most important thing), but that's where breathing comes in most importantly. Naturally when you've been fighting for a while, you start panting after a bit and your breathing becomes more shallow. Controlled breathing, is not conscious control in that sense, but where you learn to be breathing deeply even when you've been fighting for longer periods.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:52 am
Lunaries I favour kiai myself, simply because it's a natural sound I seem to make when I'm being tossed around. During those times, you don't think about what sound you make, you just do. Sometimes I stay quiet but when things really get going, I tend to shout out. Why? It's not just a tensing of muscles, it is a way of control over your breathing. When you're shouting out, you're exhaling. A control of breathing is very important, especially in stamina during a fight. That's why fighting is not a quiet deal. Then again for me, it's also a way to deal with the pain sweatdrop It definitely has a corrrelation with pain.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:11 pm
Gloglablyn It definitely has a corrrelation with pain. Hahah definitely. Actually for me, I make these weirdest sounds like squeaks or squeals when I land and I have no idea why. It's entirely unconsciously doing so and the whole class breaks into laughter.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:39 pm
I favor the Hiss over the Kiai/Kihop, after catching a nice counter-cross to an open jaw in my earlier days of Kickboxing. Never again will a kiai/kihop leave my mouth.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:58 pm
i dont do any of them conciously, although i have been told that i grunt and swear in korean sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:32 am
cognitive i dont do any of them conciously, although i have been told that i grunt and swear in korean sweatdrop Wohoo! Another swearer! I do that and then get glares from my sensei because swearing in the dojo is of course a huge no-no. I do it so instinctively though!
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:55 am
cognitive i dont do any of them conciously, although i have been told that i grunt and swear in korean sweatdrop Lol, I know how to swear in korean! Chu-ka! hehe, tho I've managed to mostly train myself out of swearing in the dojang... its not good screaming "Die you ******** donkey c** drinking son of an aids ridden b***h" when there are kids around ya know? sweatdrop
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