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che_hyun

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:47 pm


gonk In order to really make them stick, I have to learn them one by one and repeat them several times. I'm still going ahead with them, it's just sort of slow going with me.

Thanks for the sites though.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:30 pm


che_hyun
gonk In order to really make them stick, I have to learn them one by one and repeat them several times. I'm still going ahead with them, it's just sort of slow going with me.

Thanks for the sites though.


what do you mean, study them all at once! (this sentence would sound veyr nice at japanese)

何が言うのか?!平仮名を全部勉強しなさい!

(i should say なさい is strong feling)

Aiko_589


che_hyun

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:15 pm


But then I forget a lot or I'll confuse them with each other. O.o And then I have to unlearn them and re-learn them again which is even harder than learning them just one by one.

I'm weird like that. At least I don't forget even when I take them one at a time.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:53 pm


che_hyun
But then I forget a lot or I'll confuse them with each other. O.o And then I have to unlearn them and re-learn them again which is even harder than learning them just one by one.

I'm weird like that. At least I don't forget even when I take them one at a time.

that because that would mean you have debunked the governments way, i guess japanese children have more intelligence, and i guess i must post the rest of the particles no?

Aiko_589


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:04 pm


こと (Only used by women)

it indicate emotion=
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"good bye" is not being near (each other). it is not being able to meet anymore. it is terribly painful

子供のように笑ってたこと。今、もう笑わないこと

i used to laugh like a child, now i dont laugh anymore (indicating she gone through pain and now never laughs)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:05 pm


ってば 

reinforces what has been said:

静に、静にってばよ! 

be quite, i siad be quiet!!!

Aiko_589


che_hyun

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:16 pm


Aiko_589
che_hyun
But then I forget a lot or I'll confuse them with each other. O.o And then I have to unlearn them and re-learn them again which is even harder than learning them just one by one.

I'm weird like that. At least I don't forget even when I take them one at a time.

that because that would mean you have debunked the governments way, i guess japanese children have more intelligence, and i guess i must post the rest of the particles no?


Debunked? Anyway, schools here in the U.S. are lax and it's a pattern here that the Asian kids are smart. (I went to this Math competition for the state and like most of the kids there were Asian...) And hey, I'm still 13. (I want to learn several different languages, and I've heard they stick better when you're a kid so I'm starting early wink .)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:28 pm


I suppose the whole stupid school thing is one down side of being what they call 'Democratic'. It's really not a very smart thing to do. If the schools are 'too harsh' or something, parents can intervene, and there are quite a few parents, so I've seen, who side with the kid and only the kid, so our schools can never get that good.
Don't blame us, blame the government. I'd live in Japan or Korea if I could.

Shikashi, domo arigato gozaimasu.

che_hyun


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:11 pm


japan is democratic stare
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:26 pm


Aiko_589
japan is democratic stare


Yeah, but the US boasts about it more (not good -.-) and we sort of use it as a reason to be lazy about things like schools. Japan actually gets things done. That's the difference.

che_hyun


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:48 pm


che_hyun
Aiko_589
japan is democratic stare


Yeah, but the US boasts about it more (not good -.-) and we sort of use it as a reason to be lazy about things like schools. Japan actually gets things done. That's the difference.


well, in our minds, you are uncivilized and rude (sorry sweatdrop )

weather unconciously or conciously (of course we are still very friendly)
another thing about you is that you get much to close to our personal space. (teavher that taught me english at north america disgust me at how close they get there students)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:50 pm


もの・もん 

is a feminine way of expressing dissatisfaction, or angry explaining:

あたしが、ケーキを食べたもんよ! 

I ATE THE CAKE, GEEZ/SO THERE

こりゃ食べ物じゃない、くそもの 

this is not food it is crap.

Aiko_589


che_hyun

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:55 pm


Aiko_589
che_hyun
Aiko_589
japan is democratic stare


Yeah, but the US boasts about it more (not good -.-) and we sort of use it as a reason to be lazy about things like schools. Japan actually gets things done. That's the difference.


well, in our minds, you are uncivilized and rude (sorry sweatdrop )

weather unconciously or conciously (of course we are still very friendly)
another thing about you is that you get much to close to our personal space. (teavher that taught me english at north america disgust me at how close they get there students)


Hahahahah. Yeah. Sometimes its nice to look up to them as like a sort of mother/father figure, and its fun to joke sometimes. But that depends on what your definition of 'close' is. There have been issues of teachers having relationships with students in the past. Probably will in the future too.
Sometimes it's nice to just sort of be free, and it's not really 'rude' in America because we're all used to it. There ARE a lot of authority problems though. Like kids who do the stupidest things when asked a simple request from adults.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:58 pm


che_hyun
Aiko_589
che_hyun
Aiko_589
japan is democratic stare


Yeah, but the US boasts about it more (not good -.-) and we sort of use it as a reason to be lazy about things like schools. Japan actually gets things done. That's the difference.


well, in our minds, you are uncivilized and rude (sorry sweatdrop )

weather unconciously or conciously (of course we are still very friendly)
another thing about you is that you get much to close to our personal space. (teavher that taught me english at north america disgust me at how close they get there students)


Hahahahah. Yeah. Sometimes its nice to look up to them as like a sort of mother/father figure, and its fun to joke sometimes. But that depends on what your definition of 'close' is. There have been issues of teachers having relationships with students in the past. Probably will in the future too.
Sometimes it's nice to just sort of be free, and it's not really 'rude' in America because we're all used to it. There ARE a lot of authority problems though. Like kids who do the stupidest things when asked a simple request from adults.
 

i mean sticking there faces in front of them to scold them instead of stepping back some what.

Aiko_589


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:04 pm


ぜ AND ぞ 



both these particle limit to men ONCE but now it is use by women in clloquial speech:

ぜ 

underscore point at declaration:

死なないぜ! 

i will not die!

お前に負けさせるぜ!

i will make you lose!

ぞ 

incdicate coomand,threat, very strong male version of よ 

しんじゃえぞ! 

go to hell!

すごいぞ! 

whoa

Emphaszie self encourage ment:

頑張るぞ! 


and those are all sentence end particle you need to know (there more) at youtr low level.
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