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 Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:13 pm
Durango My advise is, " Learn the system down to its smallest elements. Then you have to be smart and USE the system thorough, around and sometimes against itself." It's the only way I can see myself going through some of societies loopholes nowadays. I agree with you alot. in order to avoid being a slave to the system, I learn the system, and then I can live my ideals without too much trouble.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:14 pm
Eric Wolfborn MUCHO DELAYED SECONDARY RESPONSE: As a side note, the system isn't the enemy, people. The system is more like a close friend who's an alchoholic and needs an intervention. I love that insight, it doesn't work when you try to pit yourself agianst the system. if you put yourself outside of it and as an enemy of it, you'll hurt yourself and won't change the system
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:21 pm
Celest_Eclipse Eric Wolfborn Best quote from a played out movie: "You can do more damage in the system than you can from outside of it." yeah, I'll help, I'd love to get inside and change the system, even though I don't think that the kind of anarchy you propose is impossible, and wouldn't last, there are too many people who just follow the leader, and they wouldn't live their own lives if they could. I do think I'd like to see a system that protects your ability to live happy and free, a system that doesn't let people manipulate others and take advantage of them; that stops the violence by making it unprofitable; and that stops the suffering by making everyone learn the value of human life, and learn a desire to see all people happy.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:25 pm
SteveZ I'd love to get inside and change the system, even though I don't think that the kind of anarchy you propose is impossible, and wouldn't last, there are too many people who just follow the leader, and they wouldn't live their own lives if they could. I do think I'd like to see a system that protects your ability to live happy and free, a system that doesn't let people manipulate others and take advantage of them; that stops the violence by making it unprofitable; and that stops the suffering by making everyone learn the value of human life, and learn a desire to see all people happy. If your wondering if these are just pipe dreams and I have no way of actually making it possible, I'll let you know that right now I'm looking for the right blend of free market competition, democracy and Marxist Ideals.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:05 pm
oh God! I'm the only one on this page, I so did not notice....... anyone?
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:12 pm
oh well, I'll just keep talking, like there was actually someone listening, I'm lonely. need someone to share the world with. yeah anyway. Libertarian2008 treehugger2003 i think that the system is starting to fix itself. sure, there's a lot of craptacularness (we had to choose between bush and kerry) but cities are getting greener and people are really beginning to understand the whole spirit of the earth thing. i dunno what i'm trying to say or where i'm going with this really. do you know about property tax? When a single mom lives in a shack with 4 kids, and the neighborhood gets greener, and parks are built, and abandon houses are torn down and turns into nice homes, property tax goes up, rent goes up, and she gets kicked out, and she moves to another shck with her 4 kids.... its not getting better. not until it's better for everyone who's willing to work for it. you should look into Henrey George, his therory of single tax solves the problem of poverty durring periods of prosperty, it's just a little hard to put into action. peace... (0)>s
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:22 pm
Do whatever inspires you. My father was a total hippie, and now he's an artist. wink
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:22 am
Eric Wolfborn MUCHO DELAYED SECONDARY RESPONSE: As a side note, the system isn't the enemy, people. The system is more like a close friend who's an alchoholic and needs an intervention. wow, that's a really good point...
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:27 am
Libertarian2008 treehugger2003 i think that the system is starting to fix itself. sure, there's a lot of craptacularness (we had to choose between bush and kerry) but cities are getting greener and people are really beginning to understand the whole spirit of the earth thing. i dunno what i'm trying to say or where i'm going with this really. do you know about property tax? When a single mom lives in a shack with 4 kids, and the neighborhood gets greener, and parks are built, and abandon houses are torn down and turns into nice homes, property tax goes up, rent goes up, and she gets kicked out, and she moves to another shck with her 4 kids.... its not getting better. not until it's better for everyone who's willing to work for it. Right, and what about the people who AREN'T willing to work for it? Those four kids are growing up in poverty, where the mentality is that there's no way out of it and that the rich people are the ones forcing them to have a dependency on welfare... How do we change THAT?
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