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 Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:56 pm
I agree with you 100%. When Jesus died He took our faith to a whole new level. Grace is now involoved and with it, we, as God's children must think deeper than just the letter of the law. What difference does it make (besides physical endangerment) to think it and have that sin being processed in your mind or actually performing a form of the sin? Because, in my opinion, those listed above are all forms of perversion of sex and i think that they are all wrong. They all can damage your relationship with God, and they can also damage your relationship with your spouse(or, the possibility of a spouse).
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:02 pm
Xanduran never worry about repeat threads, they sometimes get missed first time round, and ill just link the other one and lock the repeat so its all in one place. I believe that Sex before marriage is WRONG, no two ways about it. When you sleep with someone as it were, you leave part of you with them, so if youve been with 6 people, no wonder you are confused and looking for something, you are all over the place. All forms of sexual desire and lust are wrong, (well, in marriage im not so clear on, but i think you understand what im saying) although ive had encounters with some things, i still believe them to be wrong, and harmful. And, i believe that the forms of protection should be taught in schools, not so you know how-to and when-to, but so if someone comes up to you and says 'are Pills/Condoms/ whatever right'. you dont just say 'eh, a what????' you get me? I also think the way children try to grow up too fast should be discouraged as much as possible. I tries to grow up too fast, and in a way im regretting it now. Ok, about the forms of protection being taught in schools: I can see your point but i think that there are more kids that that is going out to than just the ones that would answer the question of whether or not it is wrong. With me so far? So, i think that schools teaching that stuff all over the place at even such young ages definately encourages sex because it is saying that all of society knows about it anyways. They are teaching you this for a reason, right? And, that reason is... to have sex. Because it is ok. (it's ok to them i'm saying) So, i think that it would be better for parents to share those things with their kids instead of leaving it to a perverted school system.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:10 pm
ScarredImage Discharged sexually or just naturally (like girls do before periods sometimes)? Cuz if that happened naturally that would REALLY suck to not be able to do anything cuz of it...Does anyone else think it's odd that periods are mentioned only once in the bible? Anyway...stay on topic, didn't mean to drag it off. It's because in those times, it was unclean for a woman to be on her period. There was usually a room for them to be in when they started so that they wouldn't make the household unclean or anything. Why they did that, i don't know but that's what it is.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:13 pm
Spartan1989 Ah the masterbation issue. I dont have an issue against it. I find it a a better way to keep your self from having premarital sex. I asked my pastor about it and they said there was nothing wrong with it... Well, the bible doesn't really make it clear as to if masturbation is a sin or not. But, to me it is a form of sexual impurity. But, i guess that has to do with whether or not God has convicted you or if it is ok with Him for you to do it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:58 am
Elysia Angel I believe that school should distribute such things. Not as a campaign to allow kids to have sex but to keep them safe. We have to remember that when it comes to schools- you have to keep faith out of the picture. We should never keep our faith out of the picture. It should be in every picture of our lives. But, yes I understand your concern. You want them to not do wrong, but they do it anyway. So, you want them to be protected from the pains of having sex. Having a baby, getting STDs, and all the other pains of having sex too early are all punishments from God. This may sound harsh, but it is the effect of their sin. Everything has its consequences, good and bad.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:06 am
Paulkee Elysia Angel I believe that school should distribute such things. Not as a campaign to allow kids to have sex but to keep them safe. We have to remember that when it comes to schools- you have to keep faith out of the picture. We should never keep our faith out of the picture. It should be in every picture of our lives. But, yes I understand your concern. You want them to not do wrong, but they do it anyway. So, you want them to be protected from the pains of having sex. Having a baby, getting STDs, and all the other pains of having sex too early are all punishments from God. This may sound harsh, but it is the effect of their sin. Everything has its consequences, good and bad. Not all of it is punishments. Married couples who never had sex before could get STDs and a lot of other "punishments" when they have sex. It's not neccesarily a punishment.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:55 pm
ScarredImage Paulkee Elysia Angel I believe that school should distribute such things. Not as a campaign to allow kids to have sex but to keep them safe. We have to remember that when it comes to schools- you have to keep faith out of the picture. We should never keep our faith out of the picture. It should be in every picture of our lives. But, yes I understand your concern. You want them to not do wrong, but they do it anyway. So, you want them to be protected from the pains of having sex. Having a baby, getting STDs, and all the other pains of having sex too early are all punishments from God. This may sound harsh, but it is the effect of their sin. Everything has its consequences, good and bad. Not all of it is punishments. Married couples who never had sex before could get STDs and a lot of other "punishments" when they have sex. It's not neccesarily a punishment. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but read Genesis. It is all punishment for sin. One time, a friend of mine said: "Work is of the devil." He was just kidding, but I suddenly realized that it was theologically sound.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:56 pm
Paulkee ScarredImage Paulkee Elysia Angel I believe that school should distribute such things. Not as a campaign to allow kids to have sex but to keep them safe. We have to remember that when it comes to schools- you have to keep faith out of the picture. We should never keep our faith out of the picture. It should be in every picture of our lives. But, yes I understand your concern. You want them to not do wrong, but they do it anyway. So, you want them to be protected from the pains of having sex. Having a baby, getting STDs, and all the other pains of having sex too early are all punishments from God. This may sound harsh, but it is the effect of their sin. Everything has its consequences, good and bad. Not all of it is punishments. Married couples who never had sex before could get STDs and a lot of other "punishments" when they have sex. It's not neccesarily a punishment. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but read Genesis. It is all punishment for sin. One time, a friend of mine said: "Work is of the devil." He was just kidding, but I suddenly realized that it was theologically sound. Not trying to change the subject or anything, just babbling.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:19 pm
So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:48 am
ScarredImage So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way. All bad things that happen are punishment, not necessarily for our sins. But for the sins of other humans around the world. Bad things happen to good people, and realy good people know that it is because there is sin in this world. Bad things are the proof of sin, just as good things are the proof of God. Read Leviticus 26:14-46.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:55 am
Paulkee ScarredImage So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way. All bad things that happen are punishment, not necessarily for our sins. But for the sins of other humans around the world. Bad things happen to good people, and realy good people know that it is because there is sin in this world. Bad things are the proof of sin, just as good things are the proof of God. Read Leviticus 26:14-46. I'm sorry. Earlier it sounded like you were implying that the good people were being punished.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:35 pm
ScarredImage Paulkee ScarredImage So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way. All bad things that happen are punishment, not necessarily for our sins. But for the sins of other humans around the world. Bad things happen to good people, and realy good people know that it is because there is sin in this world. Bad things are the proof of sin, just as good things are the proof of God. Read Leviticus 26:14-46. I'm sorry. Earlier it sounded like you were implying that the good people were being punished. It's good that you are a strong enough woman to say that you are sorry. Sometimes being right is very wrong, and it is good to see that you understand the love of Christ. Thank you.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:58 am
ScarredImage So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way. I get what you're saying. Your point totally makes sense. However, sins of all sorts can produce punishments of all sorts. Like, if you had done something totally wrong and against God, you ARE going to get punished. You reap what you sow. Whatever way you get punished is up to God, not up to your spacific actions. Does that make sense?
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:24 am
DaNcErCuTeE4God ScarredImage So then tell me this: blood transfusion. Totally innocent young person, bible-thumper and all, just a great person. Needs a blood transfusion though. The blood came from someone who happened to be slightly loose and his screening for HIV came out negative because the test was taken about 2 weeks before results would show in a test. He takes 34 years to die of full-blown AIDS. The bible-thumper, on the other hand, takes 2 years. All because of this blood-transfusion. It is NOT all punishment. Some of us get diseases from our married partners despite the fact that neither of us had sex before marriage (it has been known to happen before), some of us get raped, some of us get bad blood transfusions, there are tons of ways things can happen. Are we being punished because of the sex we could've had? NO! I don't think all bad things are punishment. I'm sorry you feel that way. I get what you're saying. Your point totally makes sense. However, sins of all sorts can produce punishments of all sorts. Like, if you had done something totally wrong and against God, you ARE going to get punished. You reap what you sow. Whatever way you get punished is up to God, not up to your spacific actions. Does that make sense? I don't think He's unjust in His punishments. STDs and the likes are harsh punishments for minor (if any) sexual sin. Say someone got raped. She/he struggled and fought and cried out but no one came. A week later that person has an STD for life. Wasn't the person's fault yet he/she is being punished for life. That's not just.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:30 pm
Thus, we are reminded of the evil pain of sin. It is unjust, and unrelenting.
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