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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:20 pm
OutLawedStar rock_action I don't think this got mentioned, but often, 3 and 6 in counters tend to be awkward. For instance,
二本 「にほん」 nihon 三本 「さんぼん」 sanbon 六本 「ろっぽん」 roppon
or
二匹 「にひき」 nihiki 三匹 「さんびき」 sanbiki 六匹 「ろっぴき」 roppiki
It seems more difficult than it is, I think. Just watch out for 3 and 6... and sometimes 1. ninja o0o0o and sometimes 8!!! ***e.g** ((はpーぴき)) hap-piki this kind of thinking is still trapped in x=y. language isnt something you can "learn" it is something you must obtain.
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:22 pm
位 I= Place
Ex. 第3位
Third place
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:05 pm
OutLawedStar rock_action I don't think this got mentioned, but often, 3 and 6 in counters tend to be awkward. For instance,
二本 「にほん」 nihon 三本 「さんぼん」 sanbon 六本 「ろっぽん」 roppon
or
二匹 「にひき」 nihiki 三匹 「さんびき」 sanbiki 六匹 「ろっぴき」 roppiki
It seems more difficult than it is, I think. Just watch out for 3 and 6... and sometimes 1. ninja o0o0o and sometimes 8!!! ***e.g** ((はpーぴき)) hap-piki almost every number 1 through 10 has some sort of "exception" like that, so you really have to watch out for them all. even more than 1 - 10 sometimes (such as days of the month, 14 and 24 are irregularities in the counting pattern). 20 and 30 are irregularities in the years (age) counter pattern. you just gotta learn through practice. plus like i mentioned, if you know you're going to be counting things and don't know the counters, just look over them before you go out. like if you're going to a zoo, check out the hiki counters. if you're going to be in a tall building, check out the kai counters. practice through application pretty much guarantees learning, and if you're in japan, doing these things is a must. ninja
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:39 am
ferretclaw OutLawedStar rock_action I don't think this got mentioned, but often, 3 and 6 in counters tend to be awkward. For instance,
二本 「にほん」 nihon 三本 「さんぼん」 sanbon 六本 「ろっぽん」 roppon
or
二匹 「にひき」 nihiki 三匹 「さんびき」 sanbiki 六匹 「ろっぴき」 roppiki
It seems more difficult than it is, I think. Just watch out for 3 and 6... and sometimes 1. ninja o0o0o and sometimes 8!!! ***e.g** ((はpーぴき)) hap-piki almost every number 1 through 10 has some sort of "exception" like that, so you really have to watch out for them all. even more than 1 - 10 sometimes (such as days of the month, 14 and 24 are irregularities in the counting pattern). 20 and 30 are irregularities in the years (age) counter pattern. you just gotta learn through practice. plus like i mentioned, if you know you're going to be counting things and don't know the counters, just look over them before you go out. like if you're going to a zoo, check out the hiki counters. if you're going to be in a tall building, check out the kai counters. practice through application pretty much guarantees learning, and if you're in japan, doing these things is a must. ninja Oh, I know that. I'm just saying for people who are very new to counters that those numbers will almost always deviate from the "rule." I kind of encounter these things on a daily basis since I live in Japan sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:19 pm
rock_action ferretclaw OutLawedStar rock_action I don't think this got mentioned, but often, 3 and 6 in counters tend to be awkward. For instance,
二本 「にほん」 nihon 三本 「さんぼん」 sanbon 六本 「ろっぽん」 roppon
or
二匹 「にひき」 nihiki 三匹 「さんびき」 sanbiki 六匹 「ろっぴき」 roppiki
It seems more difficult than it is, I think. Just watch out for 3 and 6... and sometimes 1. ninja o0o0o and sometimes 8!!! ***e.g** ((はpーぴき)) hap-piki almost every number 1 through 10 has some sort of "exception" like that, so you really have to watch out for them all. even more than 1 - 10 sometimes (such as days of the month, 14 and 24 are irregularities in the counting pattern). 20 and 30 are irregularities in the years (age) counter pattern. you just gotta learn through practice. plus like i mentioned, if you know you're going to be counting things and don't know the counters, just look over them before you go out. like if you're going to a zoo, check out the hiki counters. if you're going to be in a tall building, check out the kai counters. practice through application pretty much guarantees learning, and if you're in japan, doing these things is a must. ninja Oh, I know that. I'm just saying for people who are very new to counters that those numbers will almost always deviate from the "rule." I kind of encounter these things on a daily basis since I live in Japan sweatdrop yeah, i wasn't saying you were wrong. i've noticed that those ones are almost always different, but people need to be aware that sometimes they're not irregular, and sometimes other numbers are. it's not a set thing like most english speakers hope when they learn japanese counters. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:29 am
For minutes it can be fun/pun, depending on what number it is.
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