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 Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:39 pm
Sophie_Neveu Correct. I have lost most intrest in the Catholic church, and Wicca makes much more sense to me. Yep, I am a Christian but turning quickly to Wicca. I love it so much more and I feel as I found what I was looking for all my life. But my Parents dont know and not planning to tell them. They will have my neck.
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:17 pm
I know EXACTLY how you feel.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:05 am
inuyasha902105454 what about an nacher can you use that as an alter? Yeppers: of course you can. Anything and everything. I've heard of people using their speakers as an altar. This makes a lot of sense: the music litterally amplifies the effect of the magic. Hey, if you wanted to you could use a drum-kit as an altar. Or a draw. Some shelves, a filing system, a cork-board (if you could pin your items to it), your computer box (though probably not if you have a Mac-Mini...) The list is endless. Be creative: it's what makes it your altar.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:42 am
The good thing is is that it doesnt have to be permenant. You can use a small space on your floor if you want to. It doesnt matter. Most alters have a lord and lady candle, a pillar candle, an incense buner, and 3 bowels on it. Also an athame.
Of course this is just what some people use!
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:27 am
Anything can be your altar, as long as it represents whatever you want it to represent, to you. I don't have one. Never felt a need, I thank and worship my gods in other ways. When doing spellwork I improvise... There's a candle stand in my room that resembles an altar, but I'd have to actually notice, take care of it and dust it for it to become one. My sis says my Wacken Guitar is hung as if I worshiped it. I do, in a way wink Sophie_Neveu I don't like Catholic's view on sex, homosexuals, birth control, the Da Vinci Code, and other things. THANK YOU EVERYBODY! I think I'm one of the few people here, who never turned to Paganism from Christianity. For one, I was never Christian and I never developed a hate or a despising feeling towards it. I just grew up with one side of the family being christian, going to church, having the minister around for a beer and a smoke, asking where me and my sis go to sunday school... aha. The other side of the family is... Well gran's an agnostic, mom's a spiritualist, uncle & family atheists, auntie and family catholics. My father's side's family being anglicans... Blah. There's a lot of relegious mixing in me. I don't mind the Catholic's view on sex, homosexuals, birth control etc. But I hate the Da Vinci Code. Not the Catholic view on it, just the massacre of historical facts, art criticism and actual readable literature that it is. I have a very Catholic friend, one of my best friends, who has no difficulties with sex, has me and a lesbian as best friends and frequently uses birth control with her boyfriend. Seriously, I think the church nowadays is not what it used to be. Of course, then you have the types of priests as is my cousin's. Declared her a child of Satan because she listens to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. Pa-lease. My point is just, don't generalise. It never does anyone any good.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:04 pm
One of the things I've noticed about the Catholic and Baptist faiths is that they are both steeped in 'Ritual/Ceremonial' works. If you ever watch a mass or service, you'll notice that every part is highly coreographed(?) and *everything must* be done a certain way. If you like working high ritual/ceremonial magic, go to a mass or service at a Catholic or Baptist church and just watch their movements. You don't have to actually listen to what they're saying, but just watch them. Everything they do is completely in tune with each other and their faith in their religion. That's what high ritual/ceremonial work is. Same for Wiccans/Pagans. Anyone who does High Ritual/Ceremonial work knows that as soon as you start your working, you go into a sort of trance and let your complete trust and faith in the Goddesses and Gods guide you as you work. That's as it should be, for all faiths.
Edit: Sorry, it's just the Catholics who do Ritual/Ceremonial workings, not the Baptists. Although, Episcopalians come a close second to Catholics.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:44 pm
I know alot of people have statues of the God and Goddess on their alters but do you have to? I don't have any statues and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of what I could use as a subsitute.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:29 pm
You don't have to use statues. Candles representing them work just as well. With Wicca and Witchcraft, a lot of it is symbology, like the ancient cavepaintings. lol. They would draw pictures of oxen and such on the cave walls, getting killed, etc, and it was used to help them in the hunt. It's called symbolic magick. I love symbolic magick...lol. But yes, you can use candles symbolizing the Gods. biggrin
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:37 pm
In all technicality, you could use anything.
A book to represent the Goddess or a keyring or a piece of trash. Generally you don't use those things, to show a bit more respect, but if, say, you have a really pretty stone you found that makes you feel in tune with your magic, you could use that as your symbol for the Goddess or the God or whatever.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:10 pm
Becuase I'm in a colour symbolism mood at the moment, the God and Goddess are ideally represented by gold and silver respectively, though I've heard of red and white, and I personally use yellow-orange and light blue.
Anyway.
For a traditional altar I believe you'd want the four elements and the God and Goddess represented, as explained before by Aurellion and Mika Lockheart. They also generally face north, towards the earth element.
But there's a lot of things you can use to make a very subtle altar - or just have, as my parents called it, "a decorative shelf". You could just use colour as symbolism, and have candles and incense to make your room "look pretty/smell nice".
You'd want to mentally or ritually decidicate the altar, too.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:54 pm
inuyasha902105454 what about an nacher can you use that as an alter? I hate to ask but what is an nacher?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:17 pm
I came across a site that suggested using a shoe box as a portable altar. You can decorate the outside with fabrics and symbols and use it as a work table during spells, and then store your ritual items in it when not in use. I seemed to have lost the link to the site itself.. But I did come across this.. lol lol Paper Altar
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