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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:34 pm
FreeArsenal I don't really see the point of intelligent debate. Anything can be argued over, and I doubt that anyone would care to argue for what's best for society on the whole rather than what's for themselves. ...Abortion being legal or illegal really has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with society. The legality of it doesn't really change any part of -my- life; I wouldn't have an abortion either way, I wouldn't encourage an abortion either way, I wouldn't advise an abortion either way. So I am someone who argues for what's best for society, and what's best for other people. As is, I imagine, everyone else in this guild just about.
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:47 pm
I.Am FreeArsenal I don't really see the point of intelligent debate. Anything can be argued over, and I doubt that anyone would care to argue for what's best for society on the whole rather than what's for themselves. ...Abortion being legal or illegal really has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with society. The legality of it doesn't really change any part of -my- life; I wouldn't have an abortion either way, I wouldn't encourage an abortion either way, I wouldn't advise an abortion either way. So I am someone who argues for what's best for society, and what's best for other people. As is, I imagine, everyone else in this guild just about. Too bad people care more for themselves.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:10 am
I.Am FreeArsenal I don't really see the point of intelligent debate. Anything can be argued over, and I doubt that anyone would care to argue for what's best for society on the whole rather than what's for themselves. ...Abortion being legal or illegal really has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with society. The legality of it doesn't really change any part of -my- life; I wouldn't have an abortion either way, I wouldn't encourage an abortion either way, I wouldn't advise an abortion either way. So I am someone who argues for what's best for society, and what's best for other people. As is, I imagine, everyone else in this guild just about. I had a dream last night where you were married and your wife was pregnant and she had an abortion. Even though before she was pregnant, she was prolife. I really hope it's not a dream that accurately predicts the future.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:11 am
This post is not in concern to other peoples in here, I would just like to comment on one of the quotes in the first post. Quote: As for me, I'm pro-choice and pro-life. Every life a wanted life. Pro-lifers are NOT pro-life, they are pro-fetus. And once the fetus is born, they want nothing to do with it. They did their job in their eyes. They don't want to fix the adoption system, or provide pre-natal and post-natal care to women who can't afford. Just save the 'widdle babies'. As Former Supreme Court Justice Blackmun (may he rest in peace) stated: "Women will never be fully emancipated until they can control their own reproduction." Doing otherwise keeps women as they have been for many hundreds of years, kept in slavery due to pregnancy. Can't control their own reproduction? I thought that was called abstinence. That is the ONLY way to control reproduction!
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:58 pm
But they want to have sex because they supposedly got married... domokun
It's so sad really, people only care about what's best for themselves.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:04 pm
lymelady I.Am FreeArsenal I don't really see the point of intelligent debate. Anything can be argued over, and I doubt that anyone would care to argue for what's best for society on the whole rather than what's for themselves. ...Abortion being legal or illegal really has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with society. The legality of it doesn't really change any part of -my- life; I wouldn't have an abortion either way, I wouldn't encourage an abortion either way, I wouldn't advise an abortion either way. So I am someone who argues for what's best for society, and what's best for other people. As is, I imagine, everyone else in this guild just about. I had a dream last night where you were married and your wife was pregnant and she had an abortion. Even though before she was pregnant, she was prolife. I really hope it's not a dream that accurately predicts the future. ...o.O Now that's a scary thought... So what'd she look like, now? 0: )
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:30 am
I.Am lymelady I.Am FreeArsenal I don't really see the point of intelligent debate. Anything can be argued over, and I doubt that anyone would care to argue for what's best for society on the whole rather than what's for themselves. ...Abortion being legal or illegal really has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with society. The legality of it doesn't really change any part of -my- life; I wouldn't have an abortion either way, I wouldn't encourage an abortion either way, I wouldn't advise an abortion either way. So I am someone who argues for what's best for society, and what's best for other people. As is, I imagine, everyone else in this guild just about. I had a dream last night where you were married and your wife was pregnant and she had an abortion. Even though before she was pregnant, she was prolife. I really hope it's not a dream that accurately predicts the future. ...o.O Now that's a scary thought... So what'd she look like, now? 0: ) Actually, she was me, which is another reason I hope it doesn't predict the future whee I think I figured it out though. you were having that thing going on with that girl and I was upset because of going through the other guild and looking and my friend might have been pregnant but she's not really and it all kinda mixed together.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:57 am
Someone might want to moderate the Debate Guild, some people are getting frustrated and starting to flame. xd
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:46 am
FreeArsenal Someone might want to moderate the Debate Guild, some people are getting frustrated and starting to flame. xd why debate when you can flame?
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:07 pm
lymelady FreeArsenal Someone might want to moderate the Debate Guild, some people are getting frustrated and starting to flame. xd why debate when you can flame? Good question.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:15 am
You know you can argue with Pro-choice people all you want, it get anywere. They simply want the option of having sex when ever they want and ignoring the out come.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:02 pm
FragmentedTear You know you can argue with Pro-choice people all you want, it get anywere. They simply want the option of having sex when ever they want and ignoring the out come. Exactly! That's what I came down to believing too.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:55 am
FragmentedTear You know you can argue with Pro-choice people all you want, it get anywere. They simply want the option of having sex when ever they want and ignoring the out come. Not that sex is a bad thing, of course.
Sex is great, actually.
But it does produce life, and a lot of pro-choicers don't give any thought to that.
I'd like them to all think of the fetus as a unique life, but they don't consider it as such.
But even if they did, I'm sure that wouldn't change their opinion anyway.
It's not so much life that they're worried about-- They just want control over their lives, and the directions it may take, and they want life choices.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:55 pm
Mcphee FragmentedTear You know you can argue with Pro-choice people all you want, it get anywere. They simply want the option of having sex when ever they want and ignoring the out come. Not that sex is a bad thing, of course.
Sex is great, actually.
But it does produce life, and a lot of pro-choicers don't give any thought to that.
I'd like them to all think of the fetus as a unique life, but they don't consider it as such.
But even if they did, I'm sure that wouldn't change their opinion anyway.
It's not so much life that they're worried about-- They just want control over their lives, and the directions it may take, and they want life choices. Sure they want life choices for specific people at specific times. However they're not so much pro-choice as they are pro-the-choice-to-abort-my-child. I don't see any of them out there fighting for the right t choose whether or not they drink and drive.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:58 pm
toxic_lollipop Mcphee FragmentedTear You know you can argue with Pro-choice people all you want, it get anywere. They simply want the option of having sex when ever they want and ignoring the out come. Not that sex is a bad thing, of course.
Sex is great, actually.
But it does produce life, and a lot of pro-choicers don't give any thought to that.
I'd like them to all think of the fetus as a unique life, but they don't consider it as such.
But even if they did, I'm sure that wouldn't change their opinion anyway.
It's not so much life that they're worried about-- They just want control over their lives, and the directions it may take, and they want life choices. Sure they want life choices for specific people at specific times. However they're not so much pro-choice as they are pro-the-choice-to-abort-my-child. I don't see any of them out there fighting for the right t choose whether or not they drink and drive. True.
But I'm supportive of all the choices people make, as long as you're happy making them, and accept whatever consequences life may throw your way.
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