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LOL! I always stop when I play up to that point... If you're dying to finish it you can rent a PS2 somewhere... if you don't live in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah I hate that feeling too... that sinking feeling when I beat Suikoden V... I was all: "That's IT!? I waited for A YEAR and THAT'S IT!?! THAT ENDING SUCKED!" But it's better the second playthrough.

Brad's back! This is awesome.

I see me and you share that same feeling for Tactics. I thought it was done well... especially since it was Suiko-Konami's first go at a tactics based game.

You bring up excellent points, Brad. Always nice to hear from you. biggrin

I'm entirely in love with Suikoden I. I mean...it started it all. It provided the story, the background, and the characters for the whole series. And despite it's rather short length (20 hours or less...), it still kicked a**.

I can't rate Tactics, cause I haven't played it yet (but I will after I beat V).

I really just love all of the games. There isn't a single one I hated. Granted, III was disappointing, but it wasn't awful, and it could have been lots worse.

I hope we find out about VI sometime soon. I'm hoping they set it in Harmonia, maybe Kanakan. Or on that continent where there's absitively posulutely nothing charted. xd

That's cool that you're occupied. We've missed you around here. Alot of the olbies here have kind of vanished, sadly. But seeing you return brings a smile to my face.

Definitely. But the clincher was when Lazlo talked!!! That was the highlight of the game.

Alright its my turn. My english is ...bleh but who cares xp


Suikoden 1:
The second Suikoden I played (I startet with 2). I only want to play that game because I love the second one and hear you can load the data from 1 into 2. But in the end I really like the game. It's too short and I wish you have a detective there too to learn more about the other characters. And if you ask me Tir is the best hero so far in the games. I don't know why I like him the most. The headquarters was great too.

Suikoden 2:
Still my favorite. The only thing I don't like in this game was the hero. Sorry. The story was the best one so far. And I spend a lot of time with the minigames. Believe it or not but I've played it 10 times (or more?) and there are still things that I don't see before. (did one of you see that Yoshino wash Gengen?) And Suikoden 2 got the best minigame ever in the serie: Cooking Contest. That was so funny.

Suikoden 3:
Luc was really sexy there so a yay for Luc heart I level all my characters up to 65 because I don't want to kill him. That was really hard. I like the idea of 3 heros (or 4 with Thomas) because it makes you see all the different points of view within a war. The story was okey but I don't like the gameplay and the battles. It's really not a bad game at all.

Suikoden 4:
Hm...what to say. The seafarings are a bit too long and boring. Great that you get Viki early in the game so you can beam. The graphic was great and I like the hero. He's cute wink I spend a lot of time to play the minigames here. Loves Rita Pon. But in my opinion there are not enough characters I really like. My problem in all the other Suikoden games was that I cannot decide which charactere I want to take with me because there are too much I like. Not in Suikoden 4. I always take the same characters with me. Only in the end I put one out to get Snow. Yey I am a Snowe fan whee He is one of the interesting character in the games.


Suikoden Tactics:
The game is great but I suck in tactic games. One false move and you are dead meat. Believe me I know what I am talking about. What irritated me was the voice of Kyril but the story was okey and you learn a bit more about the characters of Suikoden 4.


Suikoden Gaiden/Card Game:
I played the two Gaidens but understand nothing... The pictures are great and Nash is cool... thats all.... I tried to play the Card Game but I don't understand the rules so I lose a lot and gave up.


Suikoden 5:
At the moment I am on my 5th run through the game. It's great. The story is one of the emotional in the whole serie and it's the first Suikoden where I need over 100 hours to finish. I love all the characters to pieces and the gameplay is great. Okey there are bad things too at this game but we already talked about this (the camera, loading times etc).


Back to the topic. Is Suikoden 5 the best one? I cannot say it. I like all the games and every game is special if you ask me. The storie is as great as the one from Suikoden 2 and the characters are interesting too. The battles are fun to play and because of the different formations I was never bored. Don't want to talk about the graphic because it's the newest game and so the graphic is sure the best one. The hero is cute but he is not so complex(?) like some of the other heros. Okey he's going through a lot of trouble but he's not changing so much. Hm...no...thats not right at all but I don't know how to decribe it. Maybe you know what I mean...

Man...my english is really bad...

Ok its been a while since i posted here... but here is my two cents on the entire stroy of Suikoden as of now.


Suikoden 1: My first Suikoden game. Well I remeber borrowing it from a friend and not returning it for 6 months. When I gave it back to him. Later he gave it to me as a brithday gift. Well in anycase. I never cry over emotional things, but this game actrully made me truely fall in love with the characters tot he point of watching them die even in war or part of story well almost or brought tears to my eyes. It's the reson why i love the series so much but is not my favorte sadly enough it was the foundation of it though. Cause of this game I almost wet myself when i was Suikoden 2 for sale on a crismas sale for k-mart and demained that i got it as a gift for chrismas to my parents and nothing else.

Suikoden 2: This one raised the bar on how rpgs should have storylines. It had play it well over 10 times not to mention the side story quest are very challaging tot he point that I still haven't beaten clives side quest yet... but i heard it was a good story. But this one is my favorte. Villains were loveable and struck fear in me as well tears when i had to face them. Yes I'm talking to you Luca Blight. He was the best boss battle in any of the suikoden games and i would have to say one of the most challageing ones of all time in any rpg. But the war systems was chagced for more tactical point of veiw of it instead of rock paper sciessors. Not to mention the music was Beatiful like the orginal. And the return of many loved characters it drew the masses to this sleeper. there is a reson why this was mass produced in more numbers and still is worth more the 1 on E bay.

Suikoden 3: Ok After suikoden 2 raised the bar for how the series should go. I was looking forward to this one. This game raised the standards on graphics and when i saw the trailor for it I drooled. Heck when i finally got it I spent 15 mintunes watching the opening video in awe. Sadly enough after thet it was down hill. First off i'm very patent but hearing the same story for over 20 hours was hell. not to mention the free from running on the world was gone. I felt like i was forced into the sotry more then me sitting back and enjoying it. I loved how the magic looked. This game raised the standards on graphics, and added a few new games. but thats it. There is a reason why nothing happens after three so far in the timeline of the suiko universe.

Suikoden 4: Ok Now this game I loved. Best example of having a game based before a set timeline. The characters were a bit more bland but they still have the suikoden feeling to them and if felt good to have some of my flame brought back into the series. The biggestes inprovment was how they made the Deul more fun to watch then before. it was a very nice thing since one and is the only thing that hasn't chaged. The free form travel was nice but being stuck on a boat well I knew what people with scuvie felt like after20 hours of travel through that. The encounter monster and bosses were challaging and the final boss was a worthly to be one. Not to mention the sotry was a nice come back from the disappointment of suikoden 3. but sadly enough I would of loved to have the opening theme be like 3. But they did a great job on the muisc also it had my wisleing to the tone on my way to work like how suikoden 2 did. Not to forget Voice acting finally came into play not to mention how well they did it. I felt like a sailor of the high seas even for a while.

Suikoden Tactics: Well this one is very hard to rate. I love many tactic games like fire emblem and FFT. But this blew them both out of the water. The return of many loveable characters and also many of the unknown qustions of the 4th was answered. like who was the pirate who killed Kika's beloved. And I still love how they made the rune cannons seeked out by many once they were starting to become useless... and helps explain why nothing like that was used int the orginal three. Characters were lvoeable and the story and voice acting was great choice of voices questionable but still nice.

Suikoden 5: Ok after two came redeemed the series, Well it finally came a game that rivals 2. Great music other then one town i wish to forget...... one clue it the most annoy place in suikoden world and if luca blight was there he would retreat and say never mention thet place again and that he will be in his tent for a few weeks to recovors his thrist for blood from his bad headache. The characters were great, the voice acting was perfect. Not to mention they finally brought back the emotion that suikoden 2 had on me. and several times almost cryed, or was very mad at the villains for what they did. But finally they got the perfect war combo, and not to mention the deul system is now beyond perfect and macks you beleive you watching a moive and at times would on perpuse do the wrong move to see what would happen. not to mention they were bit harder to read what moves they were going to do. And free form travel not to mention the random encounter bosses were nice. and the formations was a nice also it made normal battles mroe tactical. But nothing like the flow blown wars were it had my heart raceing as i felt like a real general not to mention the rock paper scicsser thing was in there but can be reveresed with stuff like Gnaw and charge. With this I hope that six will be very good.

Suikoden games that never made it to the US: ok i never played them but readed the story on them and they seem very good. wish they would bring them here.

Suikoden saga dissappointments: Ok as good as the series is there a few things other games did that should help but thanks to five most of them have been fix. Most of the game felt railroad when you had deceistion. Like I don't want to go into the cave with the army of the Damned. But this has been fixed slightly. Next wish the main character had a bit more emotion when it comes to relationships. in every single Suikoden the main characters had one or more girls in love with him and he dose nothing. come on they all passed puberdy. And girls should be on there mind a bit. Other then that most of them have been fixed thanks for hearing me out.

Agreeing 100%, and wishing for it to happen by the time I finish the game.

Nya, on that note, I can honestly say that I thoroughly enjoyed to Suiko-V game, and truly loved it (No spoils please, only in by 22 hours). Unfortunately though, I am yet to play the other games, seeing as I'm too busy to find them, between breathing, playing Sui-V, learning Japanese, and teasing my bro about his new job. I could say that it is the best game, but that would be unfair to the ones that I am yet to try, so I won't.^^ *wishing to have the games magically appear in front of face* (Some are definitely on PS1, right? Can someone tell me which ones?)