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You say cell divison is simple? Don't make me laugh xd .

When you look at it, cell division is quite complicated. It's not only that, it's also the DNA - look at it, for every creature on earth, a perfect code that is the blueprint of creation. G-d made it, and he made it well. Look at mutations - just one mistake, and look how horribly wrong it goes. G-d's world is a mirical, and everything that happens inside it is a mirical. We are living a mirical, and we take it all for granted.

You're typing at the computer now, look inside the box - all those chips, wires and resistors - do you say it's possible it was built all by itself and by chance? No! The same is with the world, G-d built it, and every time a baby is born, it is a mirical, because we see G-d's perfection of creation every time.

Thats called: "taking it for granted".

ugg...Don't make me get bio on you. blaugh sweatdrop

Sorry for my bluntness here, but males, though they have a lot of sperm, also have an extraordinarily large amount of defective ones (ie: multiple flagella, defects in genetic material) Also, the erm...habitat through which they travel is insanely acidic; I believe its pH is 1. Then, these tiny things, invisible to the eye, travel a long while, some not even making the voyage. After all of this, the egg may be defective or something, or the sperm may not even find the egg at all; there may not even be on there at the exact moment of conception.

Even when fertilized, there is so much room for mistake in DNA transcription, translation, etc. A single base of Adenine may be changed to Cytosine or Uracil, and now the protein may code for Histamine, thus "stopping" the translation of codons, and radically altering everything. A single deletion of a SINGLE base can cause some of the nastiest genetic diseases known to mankind. There are trillions of bases, all copied from genetic material through helper T-cells into an RNA complement; yet, few mutations occur- another miracle.

I agree completely with Nathan on this one- miracles happen daily, but everybody takes them for granted. Just because something appears to be common does not mean it is not amazing. Things that have astronomically low odds of happening happen every day- now that is a miracle.

Again, no offense meant, but you seem to think that a tree, a baby, or whatever is not a miracle, because you understand how it is created. The thing is- I'm not sure if you truly understand the wonder of these molecular processes, the wonder of mutation, genetic variation, and gene shuffling. Out of tiny single-celled organisms, some protists, bacteria, etc, comes radically diverse organisms: plants, animals, protists, fungi, bacteria, and so many more.

Again, I totally agree with Nathan- think about everything before you take it for granted.

again, it's a miracle that not more have defects or something sweatdrop

And yes, we have a huge population, but mostly because it's been trillions of years since the earth existed, and a fair amount of time since humans have.

Anyway, we're kind of getting away from the main discussion here; sorry, my bad. sweatdrop

I do believe miracles exist- too many good things have happened to me to think otherwise. Sure, my life's far from perfect, but the good things make it worth living.

I also strongly believe in G-d and Judaism, and if miracles don't seem to happen to me, then maybe I don't deserve them? In any case, it got us out of Egypt, through the desert, and so much more. But, if you don't believe in them, that's fine- it's your opinion and I will respect it! 3nodding

For discussion purposes, though, why don't you believe in them?

I agree with Nathan and darkphoenix. Miracles like childbirth and the like are still miracles even though they are "common." Everything was created with G-d's careful planning and it all works stupendously well.

I try not to take it for granted sweatdrop

You should learn machshevet. That subject is strongly needed for people that think about miricals they way you do.

What you said is also one of the most difficult causes for kfira in judaism according to the Rasa"g and Riha"l - Explaining miricals with rational explanations, and thus setting them aside.

yea, but you don't know what "cha.ka.t. me.tu.m.ta.m." is rofl