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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:57 pm


I didn't mean a dog and a cat breeding. But people talk about and what one of Darwin's theory of evolution was based on the fact that he founded Finches on many different islands but the fact was there were many different types with slight differences. Which could easily be caused by birds cross breeding with each other and making a new breed, not actually based on the idea that they evolved. And owning three different types of birds and my step dad actually thinking of buying a cross-bred breed I checked into it. Pretty much you get to birds that cross breed like. A and B breed and Make C and Another A and B breed making another C then the two C's find each other and mate, you got a new breed starting. (Does that make sense?)
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:08 pm


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I didn't mean a dog and a cat breeding. But people talk about and what of Darwin's theory of evolution was based on the fact that he founded Finches on many different islands but the fact was there where many different types with slight differences. Which could easily be caused by birds cross breeding with each other and making a new breed, not actually based on the idea that they evolved. And owning three different types of birds and my step dad actually thinking of buying a cross-bred breed I checked into it. Pretty much you get to birds that cross breed like. A and B breed and Make C and Another A and B breed making another C then the two C's find each other and mate, you got a new breed starting. (Does that make sense?)


Yes, that makes sense.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:53 pm


OK because I wasn't sure, I ended in the end kind of rambling, sorry >.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:01 pm


Look, the bible never said God created the world in six 24 hour days, so nobody knows. Thats all, nobody knows so this topic isn't debatable because there is no right answer.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:51 pm


Every topic is debatable, but that doesn't mean you are on the right side. God created every living creature and I sure didn't come from a monkey. I was made from dirt and the rib of a man, not from flea bitten ape. And I do know that for a fact. And to restate that God created every living creature he it goes again.

Genesis 7:1-3 Finally, the day came when the Lord said to Noah, "Go into the boat with all your family, for among all of the people of the earth, I consider you alone to be righteous. Take along seven pairs of each animal that I have approved for eating and for sacrifice, and take one pair of each of the others. Then select seven pairs of every kind of bird. There must be a male and female in each pair to enurse that every kind of living creature will survive the flood.

And for you saying this isn't debatable. Then why even debate abortion as if it's sin or not. There really isn't biblical evidence on that either to whether or not it is in fact sin. Or if secular music is bad or not, or if two people of different religions should get together. In the end the debate is rather pointless as people have their opinions and will stick to them, but it doesn't make this thread anyless debatable than the others. If any this one should be the easiest to debate out of all. Because it's all marked in Genesis. And I know God didn't have 24 hour days. I stated that already and so if animals [evolved] I believe God just created a different, but similar type of animals to the one it [evolved] from. And as society became more and more civilized, not all those animals could survive. But I still don't believe in elvolution because God created everything.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:07 pm


Here's an interesting tidbit. A creation scientist did a study on what humans would look like into age 100 and beyond. He did it on a computer and he started with the physiology we have now. He did studies starting with babies to age 90 and he noticed that as we age that our foreheads start to slant out. He programmed this information into the computer to gradually show how the forehead changes as we age and when he advanced the program to show results for age 100 and beyond, the humans started to look like neanderthals. He started to think that maybe neanderthals were actually really old humans since bible states a time when people to be 800 yrs. old. I find that interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:55 pm


Allythea
Here's an interesting tidbit. A creation scientist did a study on what humans would look like into age 100 and beyond. He did it on a computer and he started with the physiology we have now. He did studies starting with babies to age 90 and he noticed that as we age that our foreheads start to slant out. He programmed this information into the computer to gradually show how the forehead changes as we age and when he advanced the program to show results for age 100 and beyond, the humans started to look like neanderthals. He started to think that maybe neanderthals were actually really old humans since bible states a time when people to be 800 yrs. old. I find that interesting.

Hm. That is quite interesting.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:29 pm


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Here's an interesting tidbit. A creation scientist did a study on what humans would look like into age 100 and beyond. He did it on a computer and he started with the physiology we have now. He did studies starting with babies to age 90 and he noticed that as we age that our foreheads start to slant out. He programmed this information into the computer to gradually show how the forehead changes as we age and when he advanced the program to show results for age 100 and beyond, the humans started to look like neanderthals. He started to think that maybe neanderthals were actually really old humans since bible states a time when people to be 800 yrs. old. I find that interesting.

Hm. That is quite interesting.
That is interesting.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:04 pm


LearningtoBreath63
Look, the bible never said God created the world in six 24 hour days, so nobody knows. Thats all, nobody knows so this topic isn't debatable because there is no right answer.
However it does say days. And while that may be interpreted in many ways. Do you doubt that God could do it in just 6 days? I mean, really, He is God after all. It really wouldn't take Him thousands of years to come up with all this. I mean, I could come up with at least a hundred, perhaps only fifty though, different animals of my own imagination on a good day. And if God far surpasses me, and spent His time on it, well, you get the picture.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:35 pm


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LearningtoBreath63
Look, the bible never said God created the world in six 24 hour days, so nobody knows. Thats all, nobody knows so this topic isn't debatable because there is no right answer.
However it does say days. And while that may be interpreted in many ways. Do you doubt that God could do it in just 6 days? I mean, really, He is God after all. It really wouldn't take Him thousands of years to come up with all this. I mean, I could come up with at least a hundred, perhaps only fifty though, different animals of my own imagination on a good day. And if God far surpasses me, and spent His time on it, well, you get the picture.
Yeah, and he did it from scratch. I mean, can we really make up an animal? Anything you come up with would probably have parts of God's creations. Like it might have 5 tails, that isn't creating that is borrowing. Can we actually create a true creature that has no borrowed parts from God's creations?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:42 pm


Imotoku
...does the Bible allow evolution?


Without even reading this debate, I can give you a definitive NO. In fact, nothing allows for evolution, as the origin of life, to stand as fact, or even a valid theory. I used to think that evolution and the Bible could hang out and back each other up somehow. Then I came to my senses.

First, there is the minor fact that there has not been a "missing link" discovered between Homo sapiens and earlier apes. There, in fact, should be lots of missing links between all of today's species and their ancestors. Even Darwin made the claim that the fossil record should be full of transitional fossils. There are none to be found. This is the most obvious and well-grounded objection to the theory.

Also, the theory of evolution states that life began from spontaneous generation. In other words, life just sprouted, spontaneously, from non-life. This is impossible. Louis Pasteur proved it in the same experiment that gave us pasteurized milk. I can explain the experiment and why it worked out the way it did, but that would take lots of space and time. If you're interested in it, Google is only a click away.

Now, there are only two possiblities as to how life began on Earth. The first is spontaneous generation, arising to evolution. The second is a Creator. An act of God. There is no third option. And since spontaneous generation has been disproven time and again, the only possible conclusion is that life arose as a supernatural act of God. Those who don't accept it because they do not wish to believe in God choose to believe that which is scientifically impossible.

The last main hurdle evolution has to jump is mutation. Evolution claims that mutations play an important role in the evolution and survival of any species. However, there has never been a case of a beneficial mutation that did not involve the loss of genetic material or created a new species. Things don't mutate into new things. Ever.

Why such a blown out of the water theory is still taught in schools as fact (usually with some disclaimer blah blah blah), is beyond me. There is ONE source of life. There is ONE way. That way is GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED LIFE.

That is all. Have a nice day. Oh, and nearly all of this was taken from something on a website. I do not remember which one, but someone else compiled all of this information for us. I merely relayed it back here.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:20 pm


evolution goes aganst the bible

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:33 am


Here's the Bible smile and here's evolution twisted
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:58 am


ehem..well personily i completly agree with hopper on everything he says

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:02 pm


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ehem..well personily i completly agree with hopper on everything he says


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