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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:55 pm
Death T-2 Contingent Death T-2 This, though, still doesn't make it right for people to kill other people vainly, whether 50 years after being born or 5 months before. I think that vainly is the key word. Sometimes, abortion isn't in vain. No, vainly is the adverb. xd It's also the word that starts with a V. It can be all at once. Quote: I'm sure you may believe that, but for me a child should be born, despite any deformaties he/she may have. One never knows how God may use them. No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur.
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:56 pm
Death T-2 Contingent Death T-2 This, though, still doesn't make it right for people to kill other people vainly, whether 50 years after being born or 5 months before. I think that vainly is the key word. Sometimes, abortion isn't in vain. No, vainly is the adverb. xd It's also the word that starts with a V. It can be all at once. Quote: I'm sure you may believe that, but for me a child should be born, despite any deformaties he/she may have. One never knows how God may use them. No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur. ...Hmmm, I'm 1 out of 16 that thinks that abortion can be okay, on the poll. Seems a little one sided. xp
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:22 pm
Contingent Death T-2 Contingent Death T-2 This, though, still doesn't make it right for people to kill other people vainly, whether 50 years after being born or 5 months before. I think that vainly is the key word. Sometimes, abortion isn't in vain. No, vainly is the adverb. xd It's also the word that starts with a V. It can be all at once. Wooooooooooooooooow! Tell me more about this language!! Quote: Quote: I'm sure you may believe that, but for me a child should be born, despite any deformaties he/she may have. One never knows how God may use them. No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur. I won't answer that, since I already stated my opinion on that as well.
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:25 pm
Death T-2 Contingent Death T-2 Contingent Death T-2 This, though, still doesn't make it right for people to kill other people vainly, whether 50 years after being born or 5 months before. I think that vainly is the key word. Sometimes, abortion isn't in vain. No, vainly is the adverb. xd It's also the word that starts with a V. It can be all at once. Wooooooooooooooooow! Tell me more about this language!! The word "wow" doesn't have that many letters. Oui, je suis un expert en anglais...
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:31 pm
Contingent Death T-2 eek Wooooooooooooooooow! Tell me more about this language!! The word, "wow" doesn't have that many letters. Oui, je suis un expert en anglais... It was for dramatic emphasis. Alors (pas) me dit davantage! J'aime jouer avec des mots, tout comme un acteur. But this is getting too far off topic. I feel abortion is wrong, and I stand firm against it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:43 pm
Kashinamu God allows things to happen because he gave us free will. That does not mean it is ok, though. God does not delight in us murdering unborn children because we dont want them. It hurts him to see us killing off the children. So, then god had nothing to do with the bible, meaning that the bible was not divinely inspired? If the bible was divinely inspired, then god interfered with our freewill, the statement - under the assumption that god divinely inspired the bible - that god does not interfere with our freewill is a false statement, as it is not completely true. Also, there is the case of certain "saints" who have seen apparitions. They would actually be considered crazy, because if god did not interfere at all, then, they would have seen no apparitions. So, are you telling me god doesn't interfere with us?
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:47 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:54 pm
Contingent No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur. Allow me to kill you then. If you are part of "God's plan," then the murder will not occur. (Excuse the sarcasm...)
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:25 pm
PreacherBoy Contingent No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur. Allow me to kill you then. If you are part of "God's plan," then the murder will not occur. (Excuse the sarcasm...) I hate to be picky, but, I cannot resist rightnow. You said allow me to kill you, but, at the end, you said, god will not allow murder, now, would he allow homicide? Assisted suicide (Euthenasia)? Or any other form of killing (that isn't murder)?
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:30 pm
Personal belief - abortion is a necessary evil, but in VERY rare cases (knowledge of stillbirth prior to due date, the likely death of both mother and child if the child is birthed) ... I can't think of other extremes, but it's more like a quality of life issue for the child, in my opinion. If the child's brain is so developed that it ONLY feels pain (can't speak, eat, breathe, all that), then yes, partial-birth abortion is a better solution.
My example was a real case. My aunt had to go through that. She has never recovered, but it was better for the child to have died then than to have suffered 3 days sans food or functioning lungs.
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:36 pm
chaoticpuppet I hate to be picky, but, I cannot resist rightnow. You said allow me to kill you, but, at the end, you said, god will not allow murder, now, would he allow homicide? Assisted suicide (Euthenasia)? Or any other form of killing (that isn't murder)? Actually, He will. That's exactly my point. Hence the sarcasm.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:13 am
PreacherBoy Contingent No, one doesn't. But one doesn't know that God will use them. If they were part of 'God's plan', then the abortion would simply not occur. Allow me to kill you then. If you are part of "God's plan," then the murder will not occur. (Excuse the sarcasm...) Here's the problem with that. I have not seen nowhere enough evidence to believe that a god exists, let alone is using us for his own plans. What I meant, is that God's plan, if God is omnipotent, cannot fail. If people had could make decisions that would jeopardize the plan, it would fail. Therefore, People cannot make decisions that would jeopardize the plan.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:09 am
Contingent Here's the problem with that. I have not seen nowhere enough evidence to believe that a god exists, let alone is using us for his own plans. What I meant, is that God's plan, if God is omnipotent, cannot fail. If people had could make decisions that would jeopardize the plan, it would fail. Therefore, People cannot make decisions that would jeopardize the plan. But you cannot use this to justify what we do, like abortion, since God allows us to sin all the time. It's part of God's plan to let us decide.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:48 am
PreacherBoy But you cannot use this to justify what we do, like abortion, since God allows us to sin all the time. It's part of God's plan to let us decide. God's plan relies on people making unanticipated decisions?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:05 am
Contingent God's plan relies on people making unanticipated decisions? Not unanticipated. Just allowed. God does not use His power to force everyone to do right and avoid wrong.
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