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 Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:49 pm
Trau Mir Chylde_Orchid Trau Mir Cyberpunk is a DIY attitude, a mentallity with an edge that you could cut tin cans on, gagging on the digital world; it's pixelated and wired, altered, modified, strapped in and hands-on...this isn't some casual user, a kid looking for free music or shitty DVD rips, this is someone using that tech to get what they want. They're manipulating it, they're making it work for them. They may not understand how it works, but they know how they can make it work. ~applauds~ *bows* Thank you, thank you. A more concise answer would be, "I am." Also, when I wrote, "someone using that tech to get what they want," I meant in a sense broader than free music or DVD rips. Just in case there was any confusion. so then it's safe to assume that most if not all true cyberpunks in this day and age know what IRC is...
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:56 pm
Chylde_Orchid Trau Mir Chylde_Orchid Trau Mir Cyberpunk is a DIY attitude, a mentallity with an edge that you could cut tin cans on, gagging on the digital world; it's pixelated and wired, altered, modified, strapped in and hands-on...this isn't some casual user, a kid looking for free music or shitty DVD rips, this is someone using that tech to get what they want. They're manipulating it, they're making it work for them. They may not understand how it works, but they know how they can make it work. ~applauds~ *bows* Thank you, thank you. A more concise answer would be, "I am." Also, when I wrote, "someone using that tech to get what they want," I meant in a sense broader than free music or DVD rips. Just in case there was any confusion. so then it's safe to assume that most if not all true cyberpunks in this day and age know what IRC is... I'm in a channel as I write this...actually, I'm almost constantly on-channel anymore.
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:06 pm
Trau Mir Chylde_Orchid Trau Mir Chylde_Orchid Trau Mir Cyberpunk is a DIY attitude, a mentallity with an edge that you could cut tin cans on, gagging on the digital world; it's pixelated and wired, altered, modified, strapped in and hands-on...this isn't some casual user, a kid looking for free music or shitty DVD rips, this is someone using that tech to get what they want. They're manipulating it, they're making it work for them. They may not understand how it works, but they know how they can make it work. ~applauds~ *bows* Thank you, thank you. A more concise answer would be, "I am." Also, when I wrote, "someone using that tech to get what they want," I meant in a sense broader than free music or DVD rips. Just in case there was any confusion. so then it's safe to assume that most if not all true cyberpunks in this day and age know what IRC is... I'm in a channel as I write this...actually, I'm almost constantly on-channel anymore. that's the way... I almost never get on-chnnel anymore...
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:51 am
this topic is a couple of months old, but my take is a little different, so I thought I'd share..
Maybe I'm just strange (which is highly likely) and, though I don't claim to be any kind of expert on 'cyberpunk', (although I am a fan of its literature), I've never really thought to attribute "cyberpunk" as a descriptive word for individuals.
For me, cyberpunk is a genre. It creates a particular, future form of society that is dystopian, jaded, nihilistic, driven and centered around technology, a breakdown of social order, and an anarchic world. Technology is the center of the society's economical, social and political ties, thus 'cyber', and the tone in the whole society is the kind of 'dog eat dog', 'screw authority' mood that might characterize 'punk'.
But.. this kind of world isn't a positive thing; in fact, it is the direct opposite of such. The characters in the cyberpunk genre did not just appear out of thin air; they are the products of this jaded and anarchic society. The protagonists of such stories tend to have the characteristics described already in this thread but, they are not the only people who exist in said society, and they couldn't really exist if the society wasn't there to shape them in its image.
So.. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, at least, in my head, which doesn't really apply to anyone else, cyberpunk can't authentically be an outlook for modern day people, because we haven't really been shaped by our society to have that outlook. And 'cyberpunk' is more than just a narrowly defined list of attributes that a few characters in the world have, because such a dystopian society will have strange and different effects on different people.
anyway, I'm rambling, I expect no one will agree with me, I think I'll just uh. go to bed now. xd
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:35 pm
omfgNAMARI this topic is a couple of months old, but my take is a little different, so I thought I'd share.. Maybe I'm just strange (which is highly likely) and, though I don't claim to be any kind of expert on 'cyberpunk', (although I am a fan of its literature), I've never really thought to attribute "cyberpunk" as a descriptive word for individuals. For me, cyberpunk is a genre. It creates a particular, future form of society that is dystopian, jaded, nihilistic, driven and centered around technology, a breakdown of social order, and an anarchic world. Technology is the center of the society's economical, social and political ties, thus 'cyber', and the tone in the whole society is the kind of 'dog eat dog', 'screw authority' mood that might characterize 'punk'. But.. this kind of world isn't a positive thing; in fact, it is the direct opposite of such. The characters in the cyberpunk genre did not just appear out of thin air; they are the products of this jaded and anarchic society. The protagonists of such stories tend to have the characteristics described already in this thread but, they are not the only people who exist in said society, and they couldn't really exist if the society wasn't there to shape them in its image. So.. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, at least, in my head, which doesn't really apply to anyone else, cyberpunk can't authentically be an outlook for modern day people, because we haven't really been shaped by our society to have that outlook. And 'cyberpunk' is more than just a narrowly defined list of attributes that a few characters in the world have, because such a dystopian society will have strange and different effects on different people. anyway, I'm rambling, I expect no one will agree with me, I think I'll just uh. go to bed now. xd I believe that cyberpunk can be used to describe a state of existance, the society that the state exists in, and the people that the society manufactures. it is a genre, a state of mind, AND a state of ethics.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:33 pm
I'll give it a shot.
I define cyberpunk as the dreamworld of the poets past. A dysfunctional utopia that is ruled by invisable men with all seeing eyes. It's as if man has become God in the age of cyberpunk. Nothing is out of reach. If you want it, you can have it. It's not just about cybernetic tech that is a forbidden reach of human extention. It's not just about goverments running from the black curtain. It's not about anti-heros gunning for their very survival in the world of circurty and emotionlessness. It's about us. WE are cyberpunk. WE are the future of it. WE create this world. WE are the confilct, the punishment, and the resolution. WE are human, and WE will be cyberpunk. Now that we have woken up to the future, we can either forsake it, or become it. Either way, it's always with us. That is cyberpunk to me.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:37 pm
cyberpunk is the conclusion of societal entropy and technological break throughs in tandem with each other.
As society goes out of control and each progressive generation is more self-centered and more in thought with the here and now, the dysfunction is inevitable.
We have already had this same phenominon happen in America, look at the roaring twenties. Society inevitably goes down hill unless a moral sweep comes through that reverts it to an earlier state I.E. the Elightenment.
As tech increases at and every increasingly fast rate, the populace doesn't have the capability to absorb all the change or find uses for it all. Everything goes to fast and the laws, rules, and society can't keep up; thus causing tech to be left to the young and brash to do with what they want. ((a good example would be internet and file sharing. This may not seem cyberpunk, but it is. It just isn't the nitty gritty kind that you would expect, but more of the roots to what cyberpunk ideally is.))
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:24 am
I've written a few essays on cyberpunk for my University course so give me a bit of time and I'll try and put up some academics theories about the genre to help people a long.
ps - sorry if that sounds pompous or anything (It wasn't my intention!) but three years of writing essays has got me all objectively minded.
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