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Kaji01

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:13 am


I remember forgetting "post office" when I was in Japan for a few months. What you use, you'll retain (which was a lot for me, since I was doing a lot of chatting with friends back home). What you don't use stays in the back of your mind until revived. I hadn't used Russian in 8 years, but all that I had learned in the 5 years I took it came right back to me when I sat in on an advanced Russian class at work last week (I work for Berlitz in DC).
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:08 pm


One of the reasons for my so-so French is because it almost became my mother tongue. I moved to France at age 3 and stayed there for 3 years, during which I learned much more French at school than the Spanish I learned at home with my parents. When I returned to Mexico, I would talk to my grandma in French, even though she just knows Spanish.

So I could say that I gradually forgot my mother tongue, because of a lack of practice. Like some of you people. I know of a couple of indigenous Mexicans who left their communities and moved to the city, and some years later, they would forget totally their Tarahumaran (to put an example).

Da_Nuke


[lady joker]

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:35 pm


this happened to my Phaw. he left his home country when he was 15 and it has been 30 years since he went back.

he still keeps his native tounge by speaking with his brothers and sisters and Mae.

My aunt. she's probably the only one in the family that goes over to Thailand and Laos 10 times a year...so i guess they learn from her too..
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:47 am


The MoUsY spell-checker
From the You Know You're Too Obsessed with Languages when... thread:
Proudly_Jewish
Quote:
If you completely forgot your native language for whatever reason - would you care enough to learn it again, as a foreign language?


..the above actually happens to you (you forget what was once your mother language and you decide to re-learn it as a foreign language). domokun


Now, is this happening to anyone? At least, the forgetting your mother language part?

I think I'm starting to forget how to speak Cantonese.

Not completely, but now I start using English for the words that I can't remember in Cantonese.

Partly it's because I don't really need to know it. Everyone in my family can speak English, so there is no real need for me to speak Cantonese. I'm in Sydney so I speak English at school (and I don't study Chinese) and even before that I've been at schools for English speakers so I haven't been formally taught that much Chinese.

Of course, part of the problem is that I'm not that good at speaking in general. I think I'm talking slowly (although I actually talk too fast according to many of the people that I know) so I rush to say things and end up saying things in English.

The main reason why this is a problem is that I'm not really that good at English, so I might end up being not fluent at either.

Any ideas on how to avoid this problem?


That's my situtation, except my English is pretty good. I grew up in England, but I've been able to speak Cantonese all my life. I've noticed in recent years that it's begun to deteriorate slowly and I'm worrying that I won't be able to speak it when I move out of home.

A comforting thought though is I think I've been speaking it for too many years to just forget it... My sisters, who came to England at 8 and 14 can still speak Cantonese although it's just hard to speak completely in cantonese for them. They can manage fine, but it's just difficult sometimes.

Lawrencew
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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:58 pm


I'm noticing that everytime I try to write "thank you" it gets converted into the danish or norwegian way

and sometimes instead of saying norwegian , I just say Norsk (same with danish)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:55 pm


Personaly, I'd rather forget English and all it's weird spelling rules and stuff.

I tend to say a lot of things in Japanese online, but I haven't said them much at home. Like instead of saying 'hi' I'll say 'ohayougozaimasu','kon'nichiwa', or 'konkanwa' depending on the time of day. I say 'arigatougozaimasu' instead of 'thank you' and I tend to say random words in Nihongo instead of English. (like that! xd )

I know I have several grammar mistakes in a lot of things I write, but they're mostly online and no one says anything, so I don't really care to learn English grammar anymore. Although my mom keeps making me do that instead of another language. stare

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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:37 am


Hermonie Urameshi
Personaly, I'd rather forget English and all it's weird spelling rules and stuff.

I tend to say a lot of things in Japanese online, but I haven't said them much at home. Like instead of saying 'hi' I'll say 'ohayougozaimasu','kon'nichiwa', or 'konanwa' depending on the time of day. I say 'arigatougozaimasu' instead of 'thank you' and I tend to say random words in Nihongo instead of English. (like that! xd )

I know I have several grammar mistakes in a lot of things I write, but they're mostly online and no one says anything, so I don't really care to learn English grammar anymore. Although my mom keeps making me do that instead of another language. stare


Me too!!!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:24 am


Yeah, it's happening to me too.
It's really weird and sad because I've been so busy lately, improving my french and english and learning spanish that I almost forgot romaninan...
gonk

LaForet


JackSparrowAsksYaSavvy

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:44 pm


I don't think I've ever, in the process of learning a foreign language, forgotten my native language. (English). However, I have, in the process of learning, tended to think or speak in said language. I don't believe this was because I was 'forgetting' my native language, but because my mind was likely trying to reinforce the language I was learning.

Something tells me this is some function of the brain that helps you learn your first language, and every language afterward- it attempts to speak, imitate, and think in whatever language you're learning.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:50 am


This is why my parents make me go to Polish school, so I won't forget, and also to improve my speaking. I could never forget how to speak Polish, but my accent is going away and I know more English words than Polish.

O.o

iBasia


Soillse

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:00 pm




Just keep communicating. I have the same problem with French and English sometimes. I use completely wrong words in both and get stuck thinking of English sayings in French and French sayings in English..
I'm fine in reading too but if I'm in a verbal situation that I don't feel comfortable in, I have to be conscious of what I'm saying.

So it feels unatural in both sometimes. I worked at a call center for a year and that cured it while I was there.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:33 pm


LaForet
Yeah, it's happening to me too.
It's really weird and sad because I've been so busy lately, improving my french and english and learning spanish that I almost forgot romaninan...
gonk


A friend of mine, who's Romanian too, seems to be keeping up with her language rather well. She knows English (learned it a long time ago) and is trying to learn French. Though she's forgetting German now (which she doesn't really care about knowing the language, it seems). Her family tends to speak in Romanian when they can, I think. It's sort of amusing (because we have a love-hate friendship and I love getting the chance to bug her), because when she gets really hyper or angry or something, she'll slip into it^^

I only know English (tch), but I've been really wanting to learn a few others (German and Romanian mainly). I used to know a bit of German as a kid. It was stuff like bathtub or tree and 1-10, and now I'm sad I've forgotten it. I've forgotten all my Spanish too ((ACTUALLY that's good. I was only in Spanish 1 for 5 years, a WEIRD mandatory thing, and the teachers didn't even know how to pronounce the alphabet, so I unlearned a bad thing^^)). Let's see... then there's French, which I NEVER learned in the first place. Except "ouef", or "egg". I used to know how to say "I'm as hungry as a wolf", but I've forgotten it, *sighs*.

Oni no Seiryuu


rweghrheh

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:01 am


No not yet and once I fully learn another language and use it often (hoping to either be a Japanese Translator or interpretor some day ), I would still use my native language since English is what is spoken here and and can always be used since people in other coutries at least know some basic English (not everybody but alot of people so it will always be used).

After spending years learning and speaking English and continue to speak and write it (though often mispell words and make tiny mistakes here and there), I don't think I can forget it, even if I wanted too.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:31 am


i did french at primary school,was pretty fluent but hated it,so i choose german,irish and japanese at secondary school and now i have forgotten most of it,but even now i still understand what french people are saying.its quite strange.

PoppyDadswell


419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:13 am


HellsBitch
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HellsBitch
I'm pretty sure I'll forget my mother-language once I start living in an english speaking country in aobut 10 years if I get things the way I want them...


vice-versa with me! (I would love to forget english, but as SpanishNerd said their are too much websites in english and everyone around the world has to take it.)

Just dont make danish your new mother language, promise me that. Danish sucks major. Why you have even started it is beyond me, but oh well. Your waste of time, not mine. I speak it fluent already cool



A waste of time is Scots Gaelige, Irish Gaelige, and welsh are useless because Everyone does speak english there


I blame AMERICA and BRITIAN FOR FORCING ENGLISH ON THE WORLD

(kudos to Russia for having no english speakers biggrin )

and I like all SKANDINAVISK languages and my heritage is danish and if you make

oh and Promise me you wont make "ENGLISH" yours because It makes it twice as hard to learn languages, You'll never be a good speller and even though A_Big majority speak it , YOU WONT BE ABLE TO SPEAK IT PERFECTLY (lige ligesom Russe)
ligsom Jeg sagde "Engelsk er en daarlig sprog at laere, det er tager over hvis verden
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