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Umm... heh heh *rubs back of head anime style* sweatdrop There is no need to get upset you two, keep in mind you are sharing opinions. We all have our opinions over certain individuals and we need to remember that they are just that, opinions. If there is something you don't agree on maybe you should share your facts with one another. Often we get our opinions from limited information and sometimes form unintentionaly biased opinions. Also its good to rebuke our fellow christians, but when you do you are supposed to do it to help them, not chastise them.

If you feel strongly about your political postions feel free to start a tread so you can disscuss them there, after all I believe this tread is about the end times. Speaking of which, here are some similar topics in the disscusion sub-forum. Keep in mind this thread will eventually be moved there too. biggrin

http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=8501

http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=88939

http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=384397

Bush is not killing people, though he has order troops in. My question to you is which do you think our Fathe is proud of removing a murderer from power and facing done terroist who will kill innocent people, or leaving them in power to kill thousand more?

There is a difference in believing in free will and leting people do what ever they want. Hillary Clinton is all about not acting the root of the problem. Like the recent problem with games. Hillary Clinton wants to punish the game companies for the parents buying their children M-rated games. Granted Bush is not all that great, I wish he would crack down on the boarder.

As for killing, just read the word of our Father.


Sad part is you have to fight at times and hold war to gain peace. We gain all our freedom and peace in this country becuase of war and and people who died for us. War is never a pertty thing, just like surgery is not pertty but it is needed at times. Of course some of our boys would have not died over there is certain senators did not deny them of better weapons and armor becuase they dissagree with the present who they gave the pwoer to go to war. That is sad, you give a guy the power to go to war and then turn around and punished the troops becuase you dissagree with him. Now that is childess. After all, Mrs Clinto voted yes to the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002." So she supported the reason you hate Bush.

But if you want to be anger about large amount of people dieing, then don't be anger at the present sending our boys off to war. Those numbers lost in battle is nothing compared to the number of police and fire fighter lost each year doing their jobs. This is where our rage needs to be. Our officers and fire fighter need better equiment and up-to-date weapons and armor to fight aginst the murderers, drug dealers, rapist in or society. American was ok with the war until we started to loose a lot of American lives but we have no problem with a police officer expected to die the minute he walks out the Police HQ's front door in some cities.

Back to the war, granted that if we don't give them Jesus, then freeing them will be a waste of time. They already want their goverment rund by their religion which will keep them inslave and the country we faught so hard to free will fall back into the pit that we help them get out of.

Just remember that we do have free will, but if you really love our father in heaven, then we will keep His commandments. 1 John 2:3,22, 1 John 5:2. This includes the rules for war which is found in Deuteronomy 20. As a matter of fact, in Deuteronomy 20:16 God told them not to leaving nothing alive. But this war does not require that measure for we are not inheriting the land from Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

As for New Orleans, it was the dumb democrate govenr and mayor for not getting there people, plus the US goverment can not get invole with a state problem like that without first being asked by the govener which she waited three to four days before she did. She would not even let the red cross help those in need after the first day after the hurrican hit. Granted Bush could have decared marshel law, but more people would have hated him for doing that. Granted, Bush had one of those choice were he was srew if he went either way, but I think he could have done better.

And a side note, Bush has no power over the national guard unless the states given him their national gaurd to use. US Army can not be deployed on US soil unless to help the local law enforcement with the exception of Marshal Law.

What part was you worried about?

Although we should enjoy, we do need need to know who the anti-christ is so we are not decieved by him.

I pray the world does not end anytime soon, for my boyfriend's sake.

I don't think the anti-christ has been born yet.

I'm just going to focus on lifting up God's name, so that He can draw all men, specifically my boyfriend, unto him.

Maybe from the fact that Christ was born on this earth, but were does it say otherwise?

i'm not qorried about it. if the world ended right now, i'd be ok with it, because i know God is in control.