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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:48 am
UGH can I rant a little!?
Ok, whoever has been in Japan long enough to notice...
GAIJIN MEN IN JAPAN HAVE WAY TOO BIG EGOS.
This might be a bit of a mature theme... and it`s quite complicated to discuss. But I will try to put it in a nutshell.
I mean.. Japanese, when they learn a language, they really get into it. They travel, go to schools on their school breaks, etc. Naturally a lot of people learn English... so they look for tutors. Japanese women... we all know how sweet/child-like/cute and atractive they are.
Now, nearly every Western gaijin I met (America, Canada, Britain, Australia) are just obnoxious, geeky, overweight or scrawny boys who could never get a decent date in their own country with a fellow country woman... but they are made SO big-headed because in Japan it is SO easy for them to get a date and therefore they think they are sex gods!
Agh this is so hard to get in depth. But it`s just really bugging me. I always see these losers trying so hard to get with Japanese girls. And when I talk to them in class all they do is brag about dates, girlfriends, nanpa (going out to hit on girls), etc... and my non-Asian girlfriends and I just sit there and bite our lips.
I got fired up on this from the regular posters on gaijinpot.com. Have you ever been? Well obviously 90% of the posters are late 20s white males... and they just think they know and have it all! Some of them talk big about their male member..... and just talking about women in general like they just want sex with THESE DORKS!? I mean... geez. They recently hi-jacked an ernest and honest post by me, asking about alternatives to the big 3 part-time jobs for students (ethnic restaurant, bar in Roppongi, hostess). I was asking if there is anyway to get hired at a more normal part time job outside of food (clothing, shops etc).
They just had the nerve to smut it up! Agh. I`m sorry but I can`t rant on gaijinpot or I`ll get slammed and can`t defend myself against such sarcastic losers. I brought it here for
1. People are around my age and aren`t so negative about Japan 2. This thread is centered more towards the people who`ve been here.
If you want a taste about how bad these men get over here, check out the Relationships forum on gaijinpot.com.
I`m glad I got me a Japanese man!
Agh I`m done. sad
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:42 am
I've noticed a bit of the same thing in the guys in my class that have studied in Japan. This one kid tested straight into my 2nd year class from highschool because he had studied for a year in Japan, and he was so obnoxious, especially towards the girls. He would talk fast and use advanced structures so none of us would understand, and I can't describe his attitude towards all women(besides our sensei), it seemed he just wouldn't talk to us, and when he did, he wouldn't look at us. All the guys where like "he's cool," or "he's okay" but all the girls were like "he's an a*****e" and that he really thought he was better tha all of us. He's a lot better now, I'm thinking someone told him to tone it down and that just because he knows so much, doesn't means he has to treat us like where stupid.
Then there's one classmate who I would consider my friend because we hang out a lot outsde of class, he's going to Japan this fall to study. It's funny, because he bitched about other guys in our class copping attitudes when they found out they're going to japan, and now he has a bit of one. This week we were picking partners for our oral interview (3 of us go see sensei and talk for 10 minutes, usually not a big boost to my grade) so my friends was talking to other people and makes a group, then turns to me and says "good, that worked out well" and I was like "not for me" because I always get stuck with the same person, but I was still halfway kidding, then he goes "But it's good to be partnered up with people at your same level" I kind of gasped, offended, and he promptly said "I'm not saying you're not good." but he was, because he paired himself up with 2 people who studied in Japan and are really good speakers, so it's really saying "they're on my level and you're not."
Then the Japanese women thing *sigh* sometimes I worry that a major driving factor for most of my guys in my class to learn Japanese is to try to land a cute Japanese girl. A lot of guys, my friend included, are like "I like small girls" and of course Japanese women usually fit that bill. I always tease the guys saying "you don't want a girlfriend, you want a doll" i'm not saying women who are petite are dolls, just that the guys who go after them don't always have pure intentions. My friend's girlfriend is chinese and pretty petite, and I met his exgirlfriend, who was white, but still only about 5ft tall. So, my friends like "yeah, when I'm in Japan, all the hot japanese girls are going to hit on me." he's just being a guy, but he's tall and fairly good looking and apparently the Japanese women love the tall American boys (it's a stereotype I hear a lot, mostly form other guys).
I dunno, it's just when I list off the reason I want to go to Japan and what I want to do in Japan, landing a cute Japanese boy doesn't appear on my list, if I did met someone, that would be great, but it's not a driving factor. Guys, though, "hot asian girls" seems to pop up in their locker room talk at it's bothers me and should both all the poor cute girls in Japan wou are going to get swarmed. biggrin
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:13 pm
Agh, I guess it`s just a man thing. But really, in Tokyo, the girls that the gaijin go straight for are the ultra-trendy shoppers who float around crowded epicenters like Shibuya or Shinjuku. In Roppongi, the girls know that`s where to get a gaijin guy, and a friend of mine mentioned that the bars in that area, though upscale and expensive, have a sleazy air to them due to both men AND women looking to land something (men for you know what, women for a possibly rich gaijin guy).
A lot of young men go for these types of women, the ones who seemingly shop all day and wear expensive brand everything. Sometimes these girls work as hostesses to support their expensive hobbies. Gaijin men complain about getting girlfriends like these, who use men to buy them expensive items (they do it to Japanese men too, though!), but they still go for them! An Australian classmate of mine regularly complained about his "girlfriend".. how she was so sleazy and asked him to take her back home whenever they went out clubbing and drinking... but he was still with her despite all his whining.
While the Asian male students in my class were looking for steady girlfriends/ possibly marriage, the gaijins were just looking for some fun. I guess it is easy to get distracted by the busy life of Tokyo. For a single guy. I heard it`s really hard for gaijin women, no matter how stunning they are, to get a native boyfriend. Sure, it`s easy for them to get stalkers, train gropings, and other various harrassment... but the boyfriend area is always a little gray. Is it Japanese men? I would say their shyness gets in the way. I think if I had never met my husband in America, I would`ve never gotten a native partner at all!
Agh I better stay away from gaijinpot.... it is just full of crummy people who invade all the forums with their sexcapades. Not too helpful at all. sad
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:32 pm
mintymoon *waves* Okayama-shi, Japan! 7 months to the day! its my anniversary! only two months til' i go home! ooh! last time i was in Japan I vivsted Okayama ^^ that black Castle is sooo pretty. and so are the gardens. heart
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:49 pm
wow that sucks about the guys you've run into. the guys in my group where acually well behaved...tho that maybe partly be that our teacher put the fear of God in them xd She was like "DON"T embarass ME or the SCHOOL! or else scream have fun now blaugh and everyone was like eek *backs away slowly* It's so fun cause she's this cute little old Japanese woman. but even when she wasn't around the guys behaved themselves... they were nice frendly guys to begin with and they weren't geeky or bad looking the girls were all over them cause they where tall, 4 of them 6ft or over, really skiny like the way most Japanese people are skiny, blond or dirty blond, light eyed and where farily good looking...
Tho ya, we did run into some other guys along the way that were pretty obnoixous... tho on the other had, we ran into some pretty obnoxios japanese girls as well...in Kyoto this group of girls kept following our group giggleing and going Kawaiiii! Kakkoii! in that really anoying high pichted way stressed
I would love haveing a Japanese Boyfreind. ^^ i think Asian men are sooo hot heart tho they'd propbaly never go for someone like me sweatdrop They'd probaly would be too intimadated since im so tall. and also i'm a bit on the chunky side. not fat...just not skiny sweatdrop plus i'm really super shy...*sigh*
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:48 pm
i know nothing. Lived in Nagoya proper for four months, and will be in Toyota for five. Its fine, but I do regret the fact that the Meitetsu overcharges for rail fares... Quite honestly, it was cheaper for me to get to Yokohama from Tokyo than it is to get from Nagoya to where I live in Toyota by a good 500en. :/ I'm not even that far away. emo But beyond that, things are interesting here. I liked the atmosphere of Osaka more though.... Oooo, you're in Nagoya? What's it like there?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:23 am
Saika_Kitera_Bejiita Oooo, you're in Nagoya? What's it like there? Nothing special really. Its just another city, and it lacks the international appeal/inviting atmosphere that is more apparent in larger cities and tourist areas. Meitetsu (Nagoya Tetsudou) fares are horribly overpriced. If you plan on driving around in Nagoya, it has the most expensive city freeway in all of Japan. That's right, its worse that that in Tokyo. So, Nagoya is really just another city (famous for ostentatious and expensive weddings). Figuring out the bus system is a bit of a pain, so people tend to rely on the subway (yet again, that also costs a pretty penny. D smile The Yakuza scouts are always in Sakae subway station trying to recruit women for "work" every night. There are also several parts of the city that I have walked through that definately pull off a "you shouldn't be here" vibe. Namely, there were a few clubs close to the station in Ozone that would fit into that level. Unlike Tokyo and Osaka, where random Japanese people will come up to you and attempt to make conversation, the people in Nagoya will not do it. That may or may not be a blessing, depending on your viewpoint or mood at the time. The World's Fair may be in "Nagoya" right now, but in actuality the main grounds are in Seto and Nagakute-- both of which are closer to where I actually live in Toyota than Nagoya. For the distance that one has to travel by local trains, its a small wonder that this many people are actually willing to go. Its a pain in the a** to get there. D: Some places of interest in the city of Nagoya: Sakae or Osu for shopping, Nagoyako for the city aquarium, Higashiyama Zoo.... If willing to take an hour long train ride towards Gifu prefecture, the city of Inuyama has a nice rustic feel to it without being too much of the countryside. The castle is an original (unlike Nagoya castle which was destroyed along with the golden shachi in WWII) and you can go up to all the levels. When the air is clear, you can see very far from the observation deck on the top level. It was also until very recently (1990s) the only privately owned castle in all of Japan. Then there is Little World (an outdoor ethnological museum) and Japan Monkey Park (small time amusement park and monkey zoo combined). Was there anything in particular that you wanted to know? sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:35 am
No, not really. I'll be in Nagoya when I'm in Japan and wanted the opinion of someone who's there rather than what tourist-geared sites say. ^^;; I'll be attending Aichi Prefectural University but probably staying with a family, so I haven't any clue where exactly I'll be living.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:04 am
Aichi Prefectural University (if I am not mistaken) is near Kurozasa on the Meitetsu Toyota-sen. So.... you're not too far from Nagoya but going into town you have to pay double base fare because the Toyota-sen turns into the Nagoya Tsurumai metro line. :/ It makes for a not cool situation if you're trying to go into downtown where things are happening. (It's probably only around 500-560yen if I am not mistaken.)
There's a soccer stadium in Toyota if you're into the sport.It wouldn't be too hard to get there from your university if I am not mistaken on the location. I really ought to pay more attention to the announcements on the line, but in the morning and late evenings I just don't have the will to do that. sweatdrop
The Chunichi Dragons (baseball team) play at Nagoya Dome in Yada-cho (near Ozone in Nagoya)... just additional information if you wanted to know it. wink
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:45 am
I'm currently in Moriyama (Shiga Prefecture) which is about 30 minutes from Kyoto by train. It's kind of a small town, and I'm going to an all girls high school. I got here at the end of last August and I leave some time in July... maybe, they haven't told me yet.
As for the cocky guys taking advantage of asian girls... I actually haven't come across too many foreign guys...I'm in a small city and in high school. A couple I've come across are a little irritating, but I'm an anti-social grouch. xd The only male foreigner that I spoke in length with is an ALT at a Middle School here in Moriyama and he is actually quite nice.
All of the girls in my classes say that they would love and American boyfriend and that American guys are so cool... majority of them claim they are far too busy with clubs to have a boyfriend, though. Some of them keep up with their boyfriends by cell-phone and never really see them face-to-face.. like an internet relationship.
The one thing I find a bit annoying and a little depressing is how most people think that they have to speak english to me. I understand Japanese very well, I do have a little more trouble speaking... but it really gets to me when people try to speak English when they can't at all or when they talk to my friend (who looks Japanese) and try to ask questions through him. I swear I almost hugged this saleswoman who came to my door once because she just spoke in Japanese to me instead of just assuming I wouldn't understand. She went away though because whatever she was selling or giving out had way too much kanji and I told her I couldn't read much. sweatdrop
Anyway, enough rambling on my part.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:05 am
Freakezette voriathel Freakezette oh, i think most of us simply wish we were there. biggrin I know Tsuki Chan is going there soon. I want to go on a trip my sensei put together this summer, but if I ever make it to Japan it probably won't be until after I gradute next spring (I hope to do JET then). Hmm... JET program. Need to look into that. you probably won't be eligible for a while but it's still a great opportunity to go to Japan and actually get paid. That is what I am going through, but you need a bachelors degree first so I can't go for a year, maybe two depending on how lazy I am. I would like to keep in touch with at least one person that lives there. I wonder, should I buy my laptop and digital camera when I get there or before I leave?
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:26 am
*sighs*I wish I were in Japan right now. But I don't see myself as ever being able to go there unless I get a job that offers a break at some point. I'm trying to be a marine biologist so maybe I'll get a business trip but it's highly unlikely.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:29 am
i'm not there now, but i have been to japan ^^. i stayed there for three weeks with the student embasidor program. it was fun cuz there was 40 something students and we were all friends. we went all over the place, so i've been to a lot of the diffrent places in japan. i also got to be in a homestay for three days. it was the best three weeks of my life. i had been in japan mentally since middle school and to be there physically was a dream come true. anyway, i hope to move there for a year after college with my husband. btw, the pic in my sig was taken by my boyfriend at his homestay. they through a party for them and invited some of the other people in our delegation. they said some drunk japanese dude gave them the masks. lol.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:39 am
I've only gotten the chances to go to China and Australia with my student ambassador program...but since I didn't really want to go to either, I didn't pay the $4,000 to go. If I had I probably wouldn't get to go to Italy as a senior. If I do get an offer to go to Japan, I'll try and go no matter how much money it takes!
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:04 pm
Lady Mira of Azure Sky *sighs*I wish I were in Japan right now. But I don't see myself as ever being able to go there unless I get a job that offers a break at some point. I'm trying to be a marine biologist so maybe I'll get a business trip but it's highly unlikely. My step dad is a marine biologist and he's never left this city much less country. But he works for the government so maybe they are worse about it. On a side note, I think it is a bit much to say all of them are fat and can't get a girlfriend in their own country. I don't seem to have any problem, and I'm not overweight, but I am not under either.... then again, I'm no sex God, I just seem to get lucky at being in the right place at the right time often. I know you didn't mean everyone, I just don't see me fitting into that. But you never know, maybe I am geekier then I thought o_o; and we all know I am an a*****e ~.~ But, I don't lie about it, I tell my girlfriends right up front that I am an a*****e n_~ lol. Though, they never seem to agree with me until they cheat on me and then use that as an excuse ~.~; Anyway, I seem to be just using this as a reason to b***h about my girl troubles, so I'ma go shower or something. Maybe I will take a nap since I have to work tomorrow.
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