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 Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:23 am
Every thign surrounding the situation was far too shady to simply be "this is what my wife wanted" He coudl provide no evidence other then somethign she said in passing, and he didn't even mention this when they first put her on life support.
There was the fact that he wanted her body cremated when there was evidence she wanted to be burried, namly the testiomy of her friends, family, and church. I find it interesting that he said removing life support was with in her wishes, but was willign to go against her wishes about being burried.
He then refused to let her parents even know where the grave was, they only found out through much fighting. Its bad enough he was tryign to bar them form seeing her, he wouldn't even let them know where her grave was so they coudl visit her on occasion.
There are also things surrounding the situation when she was still alive. Several years ago, once he actualy got the insurence, he faught to have her feeding tube removed, and lose. There was also the testimony of a nurse who said she over heard him talkign to some friends about what he was gogin to do with the money once he got it.
There was also the situation about him leaving and fooling aroudn with another woman and having a child with her, and he wouldn't get a divorce with Terri. The question that alot of people ask and that every one else ignorse is why? I can understand gogin to find some one else when things don't look good for you, but why didn't he get a divorce?
There is just too much surrounding this situation for me to even consider beleiving Michel Schivo.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:43 am
Well, I personally, when this issue came out, didn't even want to have an opinion on it. Because that's personal family business. I do have an opinion on it, now, but that's because the issue was so... overexposed. I mean, a brutal way to die, yes, but it's not mine to judge a personal family situation.
I just think that everyone involved, that being Michael, Her parents, and all the nurses and doctors involved, wanted what they though was best for the circumstances-- which of course is sometimes polar opposite to each other.
I mean, and as for Micheal... Well, how long can you watch a once vibrant woman that you loved suffer in a glass prison of mumblings, and jumbled thoughts? I don't like any death, but I can see his reason for it, and if it's what Terri wanted, I can see her reasons for it as well. If she didn't want it, well, that's sad, but I'm not about to pass judgement on anyone, either way.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:50 am
The thing that bothers me is he wouldnt get her help. When she had a UTI(a very minor infection) he wanted to refuse her treatment. He also refused her physical therapy and wouldnt allow anyone to try to spoon feed her.
Basically, there's no doubt in my mind that our country allowed her to be murdered-and I do think that is public business because we have a duty to protect those who are too weak to protect themselves.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:04 am
I question his wanting her to die, and every thign he did to fulfill his wants make me question his character and integrity even more. Th enumber one questions I have is why he didn't divorce her when he left her for another woman (Like I said, I can understand leaving, but its somthign i wouldn't do if Anita where ever liek that), and why he wouldn't relinquish guradian ship for her when her parents were fully willign to take care of her.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:17 am
Because he was an abusive husband who was trying to cover himself. In all honesty, some of the things he did "acting on her behalf" were just awful. He removed pictures of her family from her hospice room and would randomly ban them from coming in. The thing that bothers me the most is the night she collapsed she told her family that she was leaving him and when they warnerd her not to confront him she said "I'll just pretend to be asleep: then magically she collapsed?
It also bothers me that even though Michael was trained in CPR he left Terri on her stomach until the paramedics got there. Also he first called his Lawyer, then her famiy he never even called 911
There's just so much that screams "murderer!" and it makes me so sad that America did nothing to protect her.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:33 am
Broorel Because he was an abusive husband who was trying to cover himself. In all honesty, some of the things he did "acting on her behalf" were just awful. He removed pictures of her family from her hospice room and would randomly ban them from coming in. The thing that bothers me the most is the night she collapsed she told her family that she was leaving him and when they warnerd her not to confront him she said "I'll just pretend to be asleep: then magically she collapsed? It also bothers me that even though Michael was trained in CPR he left Terri on her stomach until the paramedics got there. Also he first called his Lawyer, then her famiy he never even called 911 There's just so much that screams "murderer!" and it makes me so sad that America did nothing to protect her. America did nothign to protect her because the mass media didn't have the full story...atleast I hope. I honostly think that if they knew all the facts they would smear Micheal as a murderer, thats what sells after all.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:38 am
That and the ACLU *A.K.A we help murderes and rapists walk your streets* got ahold of the situation and made Michael out to be a martyr. What I want to know is were are Terri's civil liberties?
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:43 am
I think the ACLU was a victum of ignorance in this situation. Liek I said, all the fact were not being reported, or were not known, or were being hidden.
They saw a woman who was supposedly in a post vegitative state with no chance for recovery, somethign that was not entirly the case once some one did a real study opf her instead of showing up, doing basic tests, and walkign about mabey half an hour to an hour later. These facts were hidden though, or atempted to be squashed since the medi and the ACLU had reported a story for so long and made them selve slook liek champions that such info would tarnish their reputation. I suppose ones own personle standing is more important then some one else life.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:00 am
that;s hgow the world works... i hear that scientists who develop cures for diseases, newer, more efficient cars and other great technologies, are bribed off by bigger companies who buy the patent and then just hide it away in a folder so the information never gets out and people still buy their crap.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:10 am
Broorel Not to start some huge thing, but it wasn't her decision to die. I know someone who is very close with the family and there are alot of things that weren't reported. Regardless, the way she died negated any right to death arguement. She was starved to death and thirst to death not even allowed communion. Her lips and skin broke and bled. It was not a dignified death. Had she actually wished to die, I highly doubt she would like to die in the horrid way it was carried out. Maybe they didn't know whether she wanted to live or die. But in that case, it's better to err on the side of life. It's tragic, really.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:27 am
Broorel Regardless, the way she died negated any right to death arguement. She was starved to death and thirst to death not even allowed communion. Her lips and skin broke and bled. It was not a dignified death. Had she actually wished to die, I highly doubt she would like to die in the horrid way it was carried out. That was my biggest issue with the whole thing. "Pulling the plug" is something I have come to grips with because someone is being forced to stay alive through a machine. I don't think that's dignified either. This woman wasn't hooked to any machinary other than a feeding tube. Nothing was forcing her to stay alive except for her food supply (eating to stay alive...what a concept). Starving her was just downright inhumane. Heaven forbid someone decide to let go of their ailing dog this way. confused
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:23 am
Pyrotechnic Oracle I think the ACLU was a victum of ignorance in this situation. Liek I said, all the fact were not being reported, or were not known, or were being hidden. They saw a woman who was supposedly in a post vegitative state with no chance for recovery, somethign that was not entirly the case once some one did a real study opf her instead of showing up, doing basic tests, and walkign about mabey half an hour to an hour later. These facts were hidden though, or atempted to be squashed since the medi and the ACLU had reported a story for so long and made them selve slook liek champions that such info would tarnish their reputation. I suppose ones own personle standing is more important then some one else life. No, the ACLU is not a good organization. They claim to be for civil rights but they somehow only fight for people who have done horrible crimes or people who don't like christians. In this case they saw it as a way to push their agenda of "right to death" on America.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:28 am
what are some of the cases where they defend the bad guy. i knwo they do it quite frequently.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:26 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:10 pm
Wow...well...I mean...wow. If ACLU ever approuched me I'd tell them to walk away with out ever answering any question. I can'
t beleive we have good natured people who want to do right and run the country the way the constitution meant for it to be would even talk to some one from ACLU
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