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 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:22 pm
whalewatcher Lol yea and my mom just texted me about what year I graduate and about going into vet school which she is so convinced I will get on my first try I apply but its almost guaranteed I won't make it the first time
How exactly do you get into vet school anyway? I don't understand your degree structure at all. Stuff like vet science is undergrad here. Pretty much everything is undergraduate actually. You only do post-grad studies if you want to get your doctorate in something, or like if you did a degree in something else & then want to do teaching/business/whatever, because post-grad is shorter as they consider you've already learnt some stuff at uni.
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:45 pm
Zzyli whalewatcher Lol yea and my mom just texted me about what year I graduate and about going into vet school which she is so convinced I will get on my first try I apply but its almost guaranteed I won't make it the first time
How exactly do you get into vet school anyway? I don't understand your degree structure at all. Stuff like vet science is undergrad here. Pretty much everything is undergraduate actually. You only do post-grad studies if you want to get your doctorate in something, or like if you did a degree in something else & then want to do teaching/business/whatever, because post-grad is shorter as they consider you've already learnt some stuff at uni.well the bad thing about her being optimistic is if I don't get in she'll be disappointed and all that. Basically you do your undergraduate degree and then you apply to vet school. If you are chosen you have to go to an interview thing i believe
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:59 pm
emotion_hug Why can't the American degree system be like Australia's? It sounds like less of a hassle. gonk
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:32 pm
Yours sounds crazily complicated. I suppose one key difference is that our places are nearly all government funded (you don't have to pay anything for your uni degree unless you're working and earning over a certain amount, and if you do they take out a little each pay), whereas yours are basically paid for by the individual, even if you can get loans. So colleges must want to milk people for all they're worth then. gonk
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:36 pm
Zzyli Yours sounds crazily complicated. I suppose one key difference is that our places are nearly all government funded (you don't have to pay anything for your uni degree unless you're working and earning over a certain amount, and if you do they take out a little each pay), whereas yours are basically paid for by the individual, even if you can get loans. So colleges must want to milk people for all they're worth then. gonk Higher education is a money making business over here. Any attempts at making anything seem more "socialized", even if it isn't true socialism, is smacked down heavily. gonk
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:59 pm
*isn't really yum_pizza *
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:10 pm
Having two kids currently in the university system, I'm gonna have to disagree with you two there.
Neither of my kids are able to afford to go...they're able to purely on grants and government programs and scholarships. American Universities milk the living daylights outta the Pell Grant system, government aid programs, and scholarship moneys--and then go after the kids for debt. It is easier to apply (and GET) student loans than to fill out all the info needed for any scholarship (we know, since our second born ACCIDENTALLY was granted a student loan, by not UN-checking a box) (unless I'm totally misremembering how that happened--I'll ask her tomorrow when she comes for a visit)
There are lots of scholarships using government money on the state levels (The Promise Scholarship for example, in our state) when combined with Pell Grants--these will basically enable any student maintaining a B grade GPA through High School to attend any public university.....once there, they only have to maintain a specific level of hours and a C average. I've read the private universities have significant amounts of endowment funds they're not distributing too well.. ninja ....but the tax dollars are certainly being distributed QUITE thoroughly...enabling the universities to charge more and more and more and more. If they were actually in a functioning FREE MARKET system, rather than the government supported semi-socialized system they are in, there might be actual competition...as it is, there's an artificial bottom--and they smell tax dollars like sharks smell blood.
It's like rent control...sounds great on paper--but has some NASTY azzed consequences.
Our kids have been able to attend because we're among "the working poor" who qualify for Pell Grants. As soon as our eldest becomes married, or living independently for a couple of years...or starts earning more than 4k a year (other than for schooling) and paying taxes--we not only lose a 4k Earned Income Tax credit---we'll OWE about 4k. If I were to work in any way not "under the table" --if I get a paying job that includes my social security number etc etc---I'll be taxed on every single PENNY I earn--and it'll affect our kids FAFSAs. We're kinda in the same sort of boat as the folks who are earning around 62k and just found out the "affordable care act" is tossing them off their insurance policies--and they don't GET any sort of subsidies (paid for by the tax payers) --which motivates them to earn at least one dollar less than the cut off. rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:41 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:09 pm
"Though the brightness of the sun has drifted far away...ohia, so I heard there was free stuffs lying around. ...Tomorrow holds the sunlight of a brand new day for me."
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:13 pm
Zzyli Vicci-Xandra17 So are we finally being active again? I've been pretty busy between E-Corp and Cosa Nostra, but I was sorely missing the guild interaction in MLH. Especially since I don't have any time for zomg right now... crying (bt my 400-level courses, upcoming graduation, studying for the CPA exam, my almost-4-year-old, my job, searching for another pt job, and housework, I just can't find time for anything more than the few posts I make on here each day)
I love your siggy arts!Hey sexy Rainbow! heart I don't think even Flynn wants her own booty. That's why she's trying to sell it to all of us. crying lol agree with the Flynn comments xd and thx, EB is my mecha-tyrant idol emotion_kirakira and the flower one is for the guild I own. it's a newish guild I made as a hang-out spot for the girlies emotion_yatta ya'll should join emotion_awesome
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:16 pm
whalewatcher Zzyli whalewatcher I heard the app was horrible so I never tried it. I'd rather not lose more sanity on Gaia Lol yea and my mom just texted me about what year I graduate and about going into vet school which she is so convinced I will get on my first try I apply but its almost guaranteed I won't make it the first time that is how it usually works... Are you looking to get into a special program with limited seating? Those are the worst... there's some people I know who have been trying to get into the nursing program at the college in my town (not even a university) for almost 10 years.
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:20 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:26 pm
Aileeya Having two kids currently in the university system, I'm gonna have to disagree with you two there. Neither of my kids are able to afford to go...they're able to purely on grants and government programs and scholarships. American Universities milk the living daylights outta the Pell Grant system, government aid programs, and scholarship moneys--and then go after the kids for debt. It is easier to apply (and GET) student loans than to fill out all the info needed for any scholarship (we know, since our second born ACCIDENTALLY was granted a student loan, by not UN-checking a box) (unless I'm totally misremembering how that happened--I'll ask her tomorrow when she comes for a visit) There are lots of scholarships using government money on the state levels (The Promise Scholarship for example, in our state) when combined with Pell Grants--these will basically enable any student maintaining a B grade GPA through High School to attend any public university.....once there, they only have to maintain a specific level of hours and a C average. I've read the private universities have significant amounts of endowment funds they're not distributing too well.. ninja ....but the tax dollars are certainly being distributed QUITE thoroughly...enabling the universities to charge more and more and more and more. If they were actually in a functioning FREE MARKET system, rather than the government supported semi-socialized system they are in, there might be actual competition...as it is, there's an artificial bottom--and they smell tax dollars like sharks smell blood. It's like rent control...sounds great on paper--but has some NASTY azzed consequences. Our kids have been able to attend because we're among "the working poor" who qualify for Pell Grants. As soon as our eldest becomes married, or living independently for a couple of years...or starts earning more than 4k a year (other than for schooling) and paying taxes--we not only lose a 4k Earned Income Tax credit---we'll OWE about 4k. If I were to work in any way not "under the table" --if I get a paying job that includes my social security number etc etc---I'll be taxed on every single PENNY I earn--and it'll affect our kids FAFSAs. We're kinda in the same sort of boat as the folks who are earning around 62k and just found out the "affordable care act" is tossing them off their insurance policies--and they don't GET any sort of subsidies (paid for by the tax payers) --which motivates them to earn at least one dollar less than the cut off. rolleyes I totally agree with you. I'll be earning my Bachelor's in Accounting in May, and I'm going into a Master's program for Tax Specialization shortly after, so I can say you're completely correct with a semi-professional assertion to it. Plus I'm paying mine through state and federal grants as well as loans, so I have personal experience. The saddest part is, with the current US economy, it's actually better to be unmarried than to be married- both in taxes and in the new Obamacare system, married couples are penalized. Obamacare's disparity is currently worse, because an unmarried couple making 45,000 each (90,000 together) can be federally subsidized whilst a married couple making 60,000 together will not be federally subsidized. All because they're considered two different households. No word yet whether that will be fixed or not. In tax regulation, they've tried to equalized the "marriage penalty" by changing the standard exemptions, etc., so i'm hoping they'll do something similar with Obamacare. [Not gonna say whether I agree with Obamacare or not, because I don't want to be yelled at one way or the other redface ]
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:44 pm
Vicci-Xandra17 whalewatcher Zzyli whalewatcher I heard the app was horrible so I never tried it. I'd rather not lose more sanity on Gaia Lol yea and my mom just texted me about what year I graduate and about going into vet school which she is so convinced I will get on my first try I apply but its almost guaranteed I won't make it the first time that is how it usually works... Are you looking to get into a special program with limited seating? Those are the worst... there's some people I know who have been trying to get into the nursing program at the college in my town (not even a university) for almost 10 years. thats waaaay long. I'm going to try to get into the vet program that they only let a certain amount of students in and its highly competative
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:48 pm
Aileeya Having two kids currently in the university system, I'm gonna have to disagree with you two there. Neither of my kids are able to afford to go...they're able to purely on grants and government programs and scholarships. American Universities milk the living daylights outta the Pell Grant system, government aid programs, and scholarship moneys--and then go after the kids for debt. It is easier to apply (and GET) student loans than to fill out all the info needed for any scholarship (we know, since our second born ACCIDENTALLY was granted a student loan, by not UN-checking a box) (unless I'm totally misremembering how that happened--I'll ask her tomorrow when she comes for a visit) There are lots of scholarships using government money on the state levels (The Promise Scholarship for example, in our state) when combined with Pell Grants--these will basically enable any student maintaining a B grade GPA through High School to attend any public university.....once there, they only have to maintain a specific level of hours and a C average. I've read the private universities have significant amounts of endowment funds they're not distributing too well.. ninja ....but the tax dollars are certainly being distributed QUITE thoroughly...enabling the universities to charge more and more and more and more. If they were actually in a functioning FREE MARKET system, rather than the government supported semi-socialized system they are in, there might be actual competition...as it is, there's an artificial bottom--and they smell tax dollars like sharks smell blood. It's like rent control...sounds great on paper--but has some NASTY azzed consequences. Our kids have been able to attend because we're among "the working poor" who qualify for Pell Grants. As soon as our eldest becomes married, or living independently for a couple of years...or starts earning more than 4k a year (other than for schooling) and paying taxes--we not only lose a 4k Earned Income Tax credit---we'll OWE about 4k. If I were to work in any way not "under the table" --if I get a paying job that includes my social security number etc etc---I'll be taxed on every single PENNY I earn--and it'll affect our kids FAFSAs. We're kinda in the same sort of boat as the folks who are earning around 62k and just found out the "affordable care act" is tossing them off their insurance policies--and they don't GET any sort of subsidies (paid for by the tax payers) --which motivates them to earn at least one dollar less than the cut off. rolleyes grants and loans are the only way i'm in school right now otherwise i don't know what i would be doing honestly. I am only having trouble cause i haven't been able to sign up for the FASFA early enough since we've been having financial issues we've had to deal with at home and thus i am amazed i am even here at school this semester and i'm scared for how next year might go if we don't qualify for anything and things happen next year like they are this year (in fact, the only reason i am here this semester is that my mom agreed for this loan thing that she ended up getting denied for so i have to talk to financial aid about it but otherwise i would have just said screw this we can't afford it which i almost did to begin with when i got financial aid results in the summer)
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