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 Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:53 pm
What is the mind? No matter.
What is matter? Nevermind.
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:02 pm
ProtoWolf 2.0 What is the mind? No matter. What is matter? Nevermind.
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:09 am
ProtoWolf 2.0 What is the mind? No matter. What is matter? Nevermind. That's quite deep.
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:00 am
Punkology TheXFactor "The Bible is a puzzle, and the only way to see the full picture is if you put the pieces together. [Read & Study the Bible from front to back and top to bottom] Until then, and only then will the beliefs, and ideas of the Holy Scripture will remain an enigma." This is possibly the most accurate thing I've read regarding religion in a long time. Unfortunately, we will never know how to solve the puzzle, as the text has been revised, rewritten, and edited to appease the church practice.
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:13 pm
Dion Necurat Punkology TheXFactor "The Bible is a puzzle, and the only way to see the full picture is if you put the pieces together. [Read & Study the Bible from front to back and top to bottom] Until then, and only then will the beliefs, and ideas of the Holy Scripture will remain an enigma." This is possibly the most accurate thing I've read regarding religion in a long time. Unfortunately, we will never know how to solve the puzzle, as the text has been revised, rewritten, and edited to appease the church practice. That is not true. One of those text is the true gospel. Read the whole thing and you would figure that out. KJV...
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:21 pm
TheXFactor Dion Necurat Punkology TheXFactor "The Bible is a puzzle, and the only way to see the full picture is if you put the pieces together. [Read & Study the Bible from front to back and top to bottom] Until then, and only then will the beliefs, and ideas of the Holy Scripture will remain an enigma." This is possibly the most accurate thing I've read regarding religion in a long time. Unfortunately, we will never know how to solve the puzzle, as the text has been revised, rewritten, and edited to appease the church practice. That is not true. One of those text is the true gospel. Read the whole thing and you would figure that out. KJV...The KJV is the "true" gospel? Despite it being all about what King James, an outsider in the eyes of the church, approved of in the church, and as a result was heavily edited to meet his approval?
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:38 pm
Dion Necurat TheXFactor Dion Necurat Punkology TheXFactor "The Bible is a puzzle, and the only way to see the full picture is if you put the pieces together. [Read & Study the Bible from front to back and top to bottom] Until then, and only then will the beliefs, and ideas of the Holy Scripture will remain an enigma." This is possibly the most accurate thing I've read regarding religion in a long time. Unfortunately, we will never know how to solve the puzzle, as the text has been revised, rewritten, and edited to appease the church practice. That is not true. One of those text is the true gospel. Read the whole thing and you would figure that out. KJV...The KJV is the "true" gospel? Despite it being all about what King James, an outsider in the eyes of the church, approved of in the church, and as a result was heavily edited to meet his approval? It's as "true" as any other religious text! blaugh
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:24 pm
before I answer, let me ask you this. Have you taken the time to study any religious text in it's entirety?
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:35 pm
Here's my opinion on this; keep in mind, it is an opinion.
Whether or not a version of the text is the "proper" one, the meaning behind the words is there. When you're reading a religious text, you're not reading to understand someone else's point of view on it or what others think it says; you're reading it to decipher your own meaning of it. There's no right way to read a text, and there's no right way to interpret it. For example, XFactor and I could read the same book of the Bible, and come away with different meanings behind what we read.
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:40 pm
Punkology Here's my opinion on this; keep in mind, it is an opinion. Whether or not a version of the text is the "proper" one, the meaning behind the words is there. When you're reading a religious text, you're not reading to understand someone else's point of view on it or what others think it says; you're reading it to decipher your own meaning of it. There's no right way to read a text, and there's no right way to interpret it. For example, XFactor and I could read the same book of the Bible, and come away with different meanings behind what we read. I believe religious scripture, especially the Bible, to be the most vague stories and themes of them all, hence creating the controversy and several different interpretations of it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:15 am
TheXFactor before I answer, let me ask you this. Have you taken the time to study any religious text in it's entirety? I went to a fairly religious school. Biblical and religious study was a requirement for graduation.
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:19 am
Punkology Here's my opinion on this; keep in mind, it is an opinion. Whether or not a version of the text is the "proper" one, the meaning behind the words is there. When you're reading a religious text, you're not reading to understand someone else's point of view on it or what others think it says; you're reading it to decipher your own meaning of it. There's no right way to read a text, and there's no right way to interpret it. For example, XFactor and I could read the same book of the Bible, and come away with different meanings behind what we read. While true, the KJV is noted as being one of the most edited versions of the Bible out there, designed, essentially, to meet King James' approval. Thus, I take that text with a grain of salt on its own.
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:28 pm
Alright, just to play nice, I'll be serious. Da Frozen One 1) Is it possible that a majority of religious people only believe in God because they can't explain the unknown (such as how the universe was created, the meaning of life, etc)? Possible? Hell, that's how most religions begin. Look to the greeks, for example: Storm on the seas? Poseidon. What holds us up? Atlas. Who the hell is shagging my mum? Zeus, as a swan. ...Okay, that last one was a bit of a joke (only a bit because that's been recorded). The supernatural is often a direction people go in when they explore the unexplained. It isn't too far off to think people think of deities or other supernatural phenomenon to explain certain...well, phenomenon. Quote: 2) Is it possible that people's ideas of heaven or hell and the requirements to get there are made from a subconscious hope of something after death? Its a reward concept; do good and you'll go here, do bad and you'll go here. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:46 am
Dion Necurat TheXFactor before I answer, let me ask you this. Have you taken the time to study any religious text in it's entirety? I went to a fairly religious school. Biblical and religious study was a requirement for graduation. So did I.
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:49 pm
Matthias A-L 0o-The_Arsonist-o0 Wow how deep is this? 1) Absolutely. Christians as a whole cling to 'God' as a way to justify something coming after death. The problem is, how many religious leaders have died and can vouch that there is something else. Billy Graham claims he saw the light when he died for 8 minutes a few years back, but even he says he was unsure as to what he saw or did not see after he slipped into death briefly. But overall, most Christians can;t answer hard questions like this one. I asked a preacher once: If knowing God is the only way to get into Heaven, then what happens to those in third world countries that die of starvation never hearing his name. Preacher's answer..ignorance is bliss, they never knew the truth so they were saved by God's grace. Now how does that make any sense if God demands you are baptized in his name in order to be saved. This is why I don't believe in 'God' anymore. 2) This one is easy. People want something to look for in eternity. They cannot live thinking that their time on Earth is all they have to look forward to. A friend explained eternity in a way that made me think. Picture Heaven, a wonderful place filled with everything that you could ever want. And when you go there for eternity, it would seem great correct? And I am sure it would be for the first 100 years or so, but what about 1,000 years? 10,000 years? An Eon? There would come a time when even living in perfect would become redundant and repetitive. Angel im not going to tolerate ignorant blanketing statements about my religion. Im not going to get in to this with you because it will just piss me off to explain why you are so wrong about me my people and my religion, so kindly stop commenting on it. I would gladly discuss this with you in private seeing as up until last year, I believed the same way as you. There are so many questions that no one can answer though.
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