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Oh no you're quite alright biggrin After all, you're only sticking to the original idea proposed on this posting lol It just seems we deviated a bit in our combined interest in playing as Mr. Sullivan redface

And in response to your idea of playing as Valtiel, while not entirely the same, your post made me think of the game The Hidden. It's a multiplayer online experience where one player is hidden to everyone (unless they are standing still, then they can see a faint outline of the Hidden) and he goes around stabbing the other players with a knife. But he can feed off the bodies for more life if he is injured and he can hang them from walls and ceilings, meanwhile being able to climb and walk on ceilings and walls....

Perhaps Valtiel has become so perplexingly complicated that he has manifested himself into another form powerful enough to roam as an entirely different game altogether eek Silent Hill gods help us all....

Well trust me, if you can rough it through the rest of 2 then you'll be quite impressed biggrin Course, ending will have some effect on that as well, but they are still all good endings either way. Although I have to wonder if anyone has ever gotten the silly endings on the first playthrough before and just been like... utterly disappointed.

And you're right, I certainly wouldn't want to know EVERYTHING about a character... I mean cmmon... who needs to know how regular Richard Braintree is or how frequently Jasper Gein goes to the laundry mat? JK, but I am serious in that I do enjoy being able to think and theorize certain situations and characters. So I guess what I am trying to say is, give me plenty to work with without giving me a straight answer... Ya know, give me more than a page but not the whole book.

You know, as shocking as it may sound, I kind of have to admit that I never really thought much on the aftermath.. I mean for instance in SH4 there is an ending where Henry and Eileen move on together, but where do they go from there? Do they just never talk about it ever again? How do you live the rest of your life without wondering if Silent Hill may not be the only place on the Earth like that.... After all, The Order isn't the only cult to ever exist!

You prose a very good question, and I really enjoy the amount of thought I'm left to give this lol 3nodding Also, at least this much should have been clear to Henry and Eileen.... The evil that they encountered spread much further than Silent Hill itself, and you'd have to wonder if it ever crossed their mind that it could spread even further to other parts in the world? What if factions of The Order had broken away and escaped to other regions of Earth? Not trying to sound ridiculous, because I think that's a valid thought... After all, the people of Sheppards Glen were a faction of The Order that broke away and settled down further from Silent Hill.... bringing the chaos with them.

This is true, and it did cross my mind that none of the other Silent Hill characters would possibly know. However, there are a few examples... For instance, in Silent Hill 4 the superintendent talks about how his son and his daughter-in-law went missing in Silent Hill a while back (the super's last name was Sunderland, obviously implying James and Mary). Also, in the latest release, Downpour, at the very end Murphy is picked up by none other than the trucker Travis Grady who proceeds to tell Murphy he had been in Silent Hill a long time ago.

Technically the people of Silent Hill would have experienced the horrors and the problems firsthand, but as far as outsiders go, I would have to say that Grady would have had to of been the first person to enter what we know Silent Hill to be today. Considering he pulled the burning Alessa from that building in Origins.

Sorry for the late response, friend! I feel like there is a greater possibility than we may be able to realize (due to the only information provided) that there are more branches of the cult than we are shown. And if that is the case, we will certainly be faced with more than one issue on trying to "stop" the cult altogether.

Also, you are right in saying that all the others were faced with personal demons... and I think that's another reason I liked their take on Henry and the others in SH4. They were brought into the madness via association, and rather than face their own personalities, they were defined by them and it's what marked them for specifics within Walter's ritual. Although I have always wondered... if anyone but Henry had moved into 302, would they have fared as well in Walter's plan? Was Henry personally marked, or only because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time? And would anyone else living in 302 have stood a chance? It makes me think rather hard.... hmm..

This is true, it may have been Henry's fate to get room 302. After all, if the events of fate didn't play out in such a way, Joseph would not have been able to talk to Henry (as Joseph was trapped in 302) and Walter was specifically tied to room 302 (as he was born in that room and abandoned there) which is also why he kept returning there and referred to the room as his mother.

As far as more branches of the cult goes, I think that was a bold, yet smart, move for the game makers to do. Until Silent Hill 4, the cult was based heavily around Silent Hill (except when Harry was attacked in SH3). Walter was the first prime example of somebody who went as far as Mexico to get one of his ritualistic killings... And then Homecoming was about an entire faction of The Order that broke away to form the town of Sheppards Glen. Some fans might disagree with what I'm about to say, but personally, I feel that the cult spreading is not only good for the series, but expected of any normal real life cult.

This logic would essentially allow a section of The Order to travel, say, to a city several states away or even in another country and form a pact with their gods.... thus creating another epicenter of activity to spread throughout the surrounding areas.

I was actually really into Silent Hill Downpour, but it would be nice to see some new material float around. SH4 proved you could alter the gameplay without affected that SH feeling. In some ways, I think that's what I liked about Downpour. It was different gameplay from the others, but I never once felt like I was anywhere BUT Silent Hill. And tbh, if the cult were to spread, I think different locations in different parts of the world could offer entirely new scares and ideas to any developing team.

it's all good 3nodding There are fans who really liked Shattered Memories, and I personally couldn't stand it at all. So to each their own! I just wouldn't feel right if I had told you I liked Downpour and didn't give any reasoning for it. A personal dream of mine will always be what we first discussed way back at the beginning of this conversation. I would like for someone, maybe Team Silent won't do it, but for someone to make another game with Silent Hill 4's style, but as a prelude to Silent Hill 4. Either getting to play as Walter Sullivan, or maybe even getting to play as Joseph right before he was killed... Idk there's so many different angles you could take.

Or what would be really cool would be kind of like what Resident Evil 6 did. You would have multiple storylines you could play, and they would all lead to the same spot. Say for instance, you could play through the perspectives of 2 or 3 different victims of Walter's, then you unlock Joseph's story, and then finally you could play as Walter's Story from when he was a young kid all the way till he was killing himself in that cell and then kidnapping his own body.