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 Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:34 pm
"Then do you have memories of what happened? How it was destroyed?" He questioned with a suddenly raised brow. So the senshi was denying, though it did sound genuine. Did he have some answer, some knowledge? As far as he'd been told the senshi had destroyed their own worlds. But if a senshi knew other wise, it a senshi somehow remembered the past. Maybe he had some wrong information.
"If you don't then you can't say I'm wrong. I can't say I'm right but it is what I've been told." And without proof to disprove it he wasn't going to be changing his beliefs. He had no reason to distrust hat he'd been told thus far. Nothing he'd been told had been seriously contradicted by proof to the opposite.
While the senshi remained silent the general had been busy. Watching the senshi and moving around the alley way. It wasn't pacing though maybe it looked like it. Was simple board wandering that was simply confined to this alley way. When the senshi started speaking again he turned to face him. "That I don't know. I also do wonder why the senshi of the past, and knights, became involved. The senshi weren't from this system and yet were involved. This is all of course as far as I know. As for who has told me that really matters little. I've been told by various people. I don't take what I'm told by a single person as truth. I did seek to see if stories, information, matched and it has thus far." Whether he'd gotten along or a spark notes version the information was the same.
"The point is however that the Moon's Queen wanted this planet...and tried to take it." And that the senshi had been involved in the past and would be again involved, that the Queen would return with help possibly. And it would all happen again, if it was allowed to.
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:39 am
“No, I don’t have memories of it,” Ganymede replied somewhat moodily. “Not of the end. But I’ve seen other things. I’ve seen… I know the sort of person I was. I know that he couldn’t have done that. He wasn’t capable emotionally, he wasn’t… he didn’t have the power.”
He felt confident in saying that, even if he’d seen no demonstrations of the previous Ganymede’s power. He knew what powers he had now, however, and he assumed—perhaps wrongly, perhaps correctly—that they hadn’t been much different then. As much as he liked to think of himself as a different person, as much as he didn’t like to consider too deeply the origins of his soul and the process of reincarnation, as much as he didn’t want to be thought of as the person who’d existed back then, he still liked to think he knew what that person had been like, knew something of what he thought, what he felt, how he viewed his world and the people who lived on it.
Memories he didn’t really have, not the way he had memories of his childhood. He wasn’t even sure what he saw when he set foot on Ganymede could be considered true memories, as he didn’t know if they arose from his subconscious, from the depths of his soul, or if they materialized from his surroundings like ghosts. But he had another sort of information, things he’d observed in exploring his moon.
“I don’t have that sort of power. I don’t think any senshi does. You’re talking about things you haven’t even seen,” Ganymede said, watching the General pace around the alley. Ganymede was surprised he’d managed to stand so still so long himself.
“Ganymede… the moon… there’s nothing left,” he explained. “Just a bunch of crumbling buildings. No plants, no animals, no people. Maybe some of it’s because it’s been so long, because there’s been no one there to make sure it’s all preserved correctly, to see that it’s taken care of, but there are other things… some things that can’t be the result of time, or the result of the powers I have. You know what kind of powers I have.”
Poor guy had experienced them for himself.
“It matters who told you these things whether you think it does or not,” Ganymede insisted, some of his former anger changing into a sort of desperation. “How do you know they’re right? How do they know? Have you heard it from both sides? Do you have memories, or do you just… believe what you’re told because it’s easier, because it justifies what you do, or the decision you made in becoming who you are? That sort of blind faith is dangerous. It lets them manipulate you.”
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:59 pm
"You don't have proof. It doesn't take much to turn a normal person into a killer." And somehow it sounded like he spoke from personal knowledge, and he likely did if you went with the normal idea of Negaverse agent = killer. "I have no proof to my knowledge either. However, I have yet to be turned wrong and told falsehoods." And so for now he would obviously believe what he'd been told. It was better than going around completely clueless, without a single clue.
"I do indeed." It wasn't with anger he spoke but with the pained remembrance of that attack. It had been far from pleasant, to complete opposite to be honest. He really didn't ever want to be on the receiving end of that attack ever again, not if he could help it. "But do you know what powers you had then? I'm sure there were more powers. You have royal senshi...a rank I'm sure some of you back then had reached. Perhaps that is where such a power lies. I only speculate of course. But perhaps that was how it was back then. You have no memories and I have no possible way to know." He was uninformed about himself coming from some ancient knight, or having been one himself, and thus saw no reason for himself to have any possible clue.
Stopping in his movement he stilled and stared at the other. "Memories? How could I possibly...I'm not some reincarnation given new life in this day and age. So no, I don't have memories. As for who told me it was the one who asked if I wished to join." He made sure to empathize that he was asked to join, not forced. Too many thought they were forced and he felt the distinct need to stress the truth on that matter. "As well as one who trained me. Both were at the time Generals." At the time...meaning one, or both, were either dead or not generals but some other rank. He didn't get into it, didn't divulge that information directly. "I look for answers, question things, I am not a sheep unlike many - on both sides."
"What about you? Did you start fighting in this war because some cat told you to? Told you this was who you were and that you were to fight." He questioned. It seemed, from what talks he'd had in the past, that cats simply gave them their power and told them to fight, that they didn't get any further information.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:49 pm
“I have more proof than you do,” Ganymede argued, though his voice was more calm now than accusatory. “I’ve been there. I’ve seen it. You never have.”
And likely never would. Ganymede certainly had no intention of taking him, even if it might prove beneficial in the long run. He cared too much for his moon, felt too protective of it, to let anyone set foot there who might not treat it with the sort of reverence he thought it deserved. They’d breached the Surrounding already, set foot in space and wreaked havoc on some other senshi’s domain, let Ares run rampant and force more of her mirror senshi into existence.
He wouldn’t let that happen on Ganymede.
Ever.
“You can’t tell me you think the royals are capable of that,” he replied, releasing an undignified snort to show his disbelief. “If they had that power, don’t you think this war would be over already? If they could destroy an entire world, or worlds, how would any of you even stand a chance? Why would they have destroyed everything else except Earth? What makes this place so special compared to every other world out there? But they can’t do that. They can barely handle Ares. And I don’t know that I’d call it a rank. I don’t really give a damn about rank to begin with, but I always figured royalty was something you were born into. Rank is earned, isn’t it? You guys earn yours. But being a prince or a princess? That’s all because of blood and family and things like that. Or marriage, but I don’t think any of the princesses got there by marriage this time around, so I just assume they were born one.”
Which was why it seemed like a rather meaningless title to him, and why he didn’t show respect the way some of the others might wish he would. As far as he was concerned, none of them had earned it. Maybe they’d been around for a while. Maybe experience did it the way experience seemed to lead one to Eternal, but he was more inclined to believe it was a sort of inheritance. It was what they were born, not what they were risen to.
“I didn’t fight because a cat told me to, no,” he continued. “I awakened because a cat happened to be around to help, but at that point I didn’t care about anything that cat said. I don’t do this because I was told to. I do this because there are people I care about who I want to protect. I’m not in it to kill anyone or earn a name for myself or help a foreign queen take some imaginary throne. Honestly, I’m too damned self-absorbed to help some woman I don’t even know take over the world. I figure I could do a better job than she could anyway.”
He paused, considered what he’d just said, and showed the General a wry grin. “Not that I have any plans to do that, but, you know, if I was going to, why let her have all the glory, right?”
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:01 pm
"No, your correct on that. However, we both know that all that's up there is nothing but ruins, remains of what once was. So whether I've seen that or not I do know it's there, as you've said. I've seen another planet, not yours, but another one I have seen and been on." He wasn't going to say which one or how that had happened. It would give away more information than he wanted to give. Speaking about being on Alkid and that the corrupted senshi had turned it over to the Negaverse, corrupting the planet, was not something he'd mention to a senshi. He didn't know what they'd make of it or who they'd tell and what that could cause amongst the order side of things.
"And you are sure they aren't? You saw what they can do. They have far more power than you or I. They can do what we can not. And perhaps not this world, they lack a connection to it, or because if they tried there is someone on this side with just as much power to stop them." Seeing Ares and Polaris fighting had been quite the show, and really could leave one realizing just how out classed they were by those who held such high rank. "Ares...maybe it was simply who was against her? Methods? Which made the difference there. I can't say. I don't know Ares nor the one she was fighting, though I had once met her." Rather like an angel she looked, he still thought Polaris looked like an angel. How could he not though? Look at her dress and those wings and the colors.
"No, marriage certainly had nothing to do with it this time. But born in to it...I don't see that either. They are certainly normal people, when they power down, like you and I. So they are not royal then. They are a person with a soul of one who died how long ago in an ancient war. So that soul was royal by birth or marriage back then and it comes out now. At least this is the only way I can make sense of it. But assumptions can, of course, always be wrong." And he didn't know enough about senshi, not nearly enough. He did need to learn more about them, talk to them more, and see who he could bring over to the dark side. He would like to talk some over, make them want to join, he'd never force one to change sides. It simply didn't work in his mind, not if you were looking to get a loyal member who would actually do something to better your side.
Laughing, honest amusement filled laughter, escaped the blond haired General. One arm even about his waist, the other covering his laughter up as best it could. "Too many of your kind do awaken because of a cat and fight because of one. I know I fight for the protection of the civilians here, on Earth, and for their freedom. Plus I'd rahter fight for my own freedom and rights rather than let other people do it and possibly fail. This way if it all fails it's not because I didn't try and rather let incompetent people fight for my rights." He spoke honestly, humor still in his voice, coloring his words. "You are honest, admitting to being self absorbed. At least if those senshi who would like to see the Moon's Queen return do get their wish I know you'll stand against her. Perhaps even at our side, as you are of course, and help take her down." How amusing...this conversation was proving useful and insight giving. This was worth it really. He would be writing about this before he went to bed tonight.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:20 pm
“Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t have any intention of fighting at your side,” Ganymede replied. “You can think about it that way if you want. Maybe at that point we’d have the same goal, but I won’t ever be one of you. If the Moon Queen comes and the others support her, I’ll go it on my own, or find others like me. I know there’re more senshi out there who wouldn’t accept the Moon Queen’s rule. Knights, too.”
Of course, he wasn’t sure exactly how many there were or even if it would make any difference in the long run, but he knew they were out there somewhere. Some of them were already his allies, and the rest… well, they’d show themselves when and if the time came.
But joining the Negaverse, even in such a loose sense? He didn’t think he could do that. He disagreed with so many of the things that made them what they were—their actions, their mindset. Even if there came a point in which they had the same or a similar goal, Ganymede didn’t know that he’d be comfortable associating too closely with them. How many senshi had they already killed? How many more had they turned to evil? How many civilians had they hurt? How many lives had they destroyed in the process?
“Maybe if some of you didn’t have so much blood on your hands… and if you hadn’t made friends with Ares and the other murderers and torturers she dragged along with her… I might have considered it, but now?” Ganymede shrugged. “Are you really that desperate? Do we scare you that much?”
He didn’t know what there was to be afraid of, honestly. The truly terrifying senshi had either turned coat or weren’t around to cause trouble anymore, at least for the time being. Ganymede rather hoped he didn’t hear of them again.
“Can’t say I have any idea why if we do,” he said. “I think you guys have demonstrated that you clearly have the upper hand. Most of that’s because of Ares, though, isn’t it? Without her, where would you guys be? Do you even have your own leaders, or are you all just a bunch of Ares’ lap-bitches now? She’s the only one I ever hear about these days. She’s the only one I really noticed when you guys crashed our party. Well, except for you, but you were hurting my friend, and another one, but I don’t even know who that was, just that whoever it was stopped one of your crazies from attacking a harmless kid.”
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:37 pm
"Trust me, I hardly meant it as allies. But rather like minded people fighting against the same thing - fighting for the same purpose. I have no illusions of our sides having an alliance - too much bad blood sort to speak. I do believe we are steeped far to deep in each others blood to turn around and attempt to wade out and form some bond." He spoke calm as ever. No, but at least if they had like minded senshi around it would help. Even without an alliance if both sides fought it would prove good in the end. No official alliance was needed to help each other, not if the goal was the same which it would be in the case of the Moon Queen returning.
"Scare us? I can't speak for others but no, I'm not scared. As for Ares. All I know is her side...they had once been blinded by the white moon and it's hold. Since they joined our side they have had their eyes opened. Those of us who serve on our side are rather close - if you ask me. We do not turn others on our side away and we may have blood on our hands but so does your side. I'm sure members on your side have killed our members as well. " He held out his own gloved hands, in a rather innocent manner, and turned them over so the palms faced upward and then they turned again. "I have blood on my hands, I won't deny it.This is war though and as such blood is sure to be spilled. Just as I know and accept my death may come any night." Shrugging as he let his hands drop to his sides.
"Ares lap dogs? Hardly. We have our own leaders, or have you never met General King Zinkenite? He is one of our leaders, a rather good one I'd say." He mused with something of a smile touching his lips. Zinkenite had helped him at that ambush, taking some of the pressure off him when he'd been overwhelmed by senshi. He still hadn't properly thanked him, he should do that when he saw him. "Ares helps us, yes, that should be obvious. But we have good leadership and are run in an organized manner. We all know our place and duties. We do not run around without any direction. And aside from the one General King we have three General Queen's." Unaware of the death of one and a new one cropping up. He had no way of knowing of such changes, though perhaps he should know of such a change - it was drastic and important after all.
"Why would you even think we lacked leadership? Or that we would allow someone else to run us? Her goals may be similar but they are not the same. It would be foolish to allow someone else to determine our path and to see to it that it's followed." They were better than that. The senshi of the white moon seemed to lack proper leadership, and direction, as did the Knights.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:10 am
“Nope, can’t say I’ve ever heard of any Zinkenite,” Ganymede replied with a careless shrug.
Admittedly, he knew very few names, and had met even less than that, but he wasn’t going to share that information with the General for fear of seeming even more uninformed than he probably did already. He knew a lieutenant—that poor, poor sap with the paperclips for weapons, blindly following the people in charge in the hopes that she could prove herself and acquire something more useful. He knew of a Painite, had at least seen her at summer camp over a year ago whether or not he’d ever had the displeasure of facing her for any extended period of time. He knew of Wolframite, having faced him once and having heard of him a few other times outside of that. And now he knew Benitoite, though he had encountered him twice before now.
Everyone else was a mystery to him. Well, everyone but Ares, who he’d heard too much about to remain ignorant. As far as he was aware, she was the biggest player in this war. The Negaverse… what were they without her?
“I don’t know why any good leader would want to make friends with the people who tortured and killed some of his minions,” he continued, “even if they’d ‘seen the light’ so to speak. It’d be kind of funny if it was wasn’t so stupid. You make friends with the bad eggs but look at the rest of us like we’re responsible for what the bad eggs did to you? How does that even make sense?”
It didn’t, as far as he was concerned. But maybe that was what Chaos did to you—muddled your brain so much you couldn’t make sense of anything anymore. That might even be why they needed leaders, as far as Ganymede knew. Maybe they couldn’t function on their own.
“It’d also be funny that you guys keep using ‘this is war’ as an excuse to kill people when as far as I know none of you have really tried to end it any other way,” he observed, “except that it’s not funny at all. It’s actually kind of pathetic. I could maybe have more respect for the Negaverse as a whole if you’d try something other than crashing our parties and ripping our starseeds out. You know, if you actually proved you wanted peace instead of talking the talk but not walking the walk. Aside from the whole torture and murder thing, which a majority of us had absolutely no part of, what do you guys really have against us? The Moon Queen, right? Wouldn’t it be easier, and better for everyone, to negotiate a truce that would prevent the Moon Queen from coming back and doing whatever?”
Ganymede was getting frustrated. This going around and around in circles, not being able to get through the mental block these Negaverse officers seemed to have in place over what he thought was their common sense made talking to them extremely difficult, even when the conversation was as peaceable as it could possibly be under the circumstances. He didn’t want to just give up, because what good would that do? But when everything he said was contradicted by something he could easily contradict, which was then contradicted in turn, it seemed like a hopeless effort.
“Okay, you know what,” he began with a heavy sigh, “this is going nowhere. I’m sorry I bothered you. I’ll just… go. I don’t think anything I have to say right now is going to change your mind about anything, which is pretty typical, but you can’t say I didn’t try. Just remember that I’m not out to destroy anything or hurt anyone. Stay away from my friends and maybe give some of us a chance, and this whole war might end up going a bit easier on both sides.”
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:29 pm
"Rather surprising. I'm sure if you asked around you'd find someone, soon enough, who knows of him." How could someone not know the General King? Perhaps he just thought too much of their General King, thinking that the enemy knew him and that he had a reputation. But why should he have thought otherwise really?
"Minions? You make it sounds as if we're sheep. And as far as I know we work with them as we both serve the same side in this war but also because those involved in the event, which I was not around for, realized their crimes and have come to our side." Though he was sure that for some members their would never be forgiveness or acceptance. He could understand it and yet he also knew having the dark mirror senshi on their side was helpful, he was friends with several members in that faction. "They were bad because they were of the same mind set as others among your kind - we are all evil and needed to die and who cares what happens to us, we're just evil." Wasn't that what he heard enough or had implied about him? Bitter? Maybe. Annoyed and angered by it, yes.
"Negotiate? With who out of you all? What leaders? Who can speak for you all an insure any negotiation would be followed by you all? You seem to have no leaders and no way to insure anything. That is one thing we have which your side does not - order. We have order." It wasn't being a sheep when the orders given were for a reason, and it wasn't like members didn't disobey orders given. The point was that they had leader ship and organization, they had people to look up to for direction. They didn't just all go all over the place with no one knowing what others were doing. They could organize attacks and organize other things. They functioned. "So aside from no one able to hold negotiations with, and be able to uphold deals, there will also be members who will want to bring this Queen back - no matter what. Why hasn't your side tried to negotiate with us? You act like we're the only ones who can start things." Not that he figured his side would go for negotiating things, he wouldn't, but the point was made. The other side wasn't exactly trying either. Why did this senshi make it sound like his side had to try first but not his own side!? Again, not that such a thing would work anyway. This war wouldn't end in some simple manner. No, he was fairly sure if it ended it would be bloody, and he hoped he lived long enough to see it's end and live past it. But when would it end? He didn't see an end in sight...would he die of old age before it ended? That thought alone was depressing to be honest and so was shoved away, locked up, for now. He'd think about that later, on vacation.
"You are correct, this is just a circular conversation - good as it is. And no, you've changed my mind about as much as I'm sure I've changed yours. Though you make it sound bad that I'm loyal, something I rather pride myself on." And it seemed this conversation was ending, winding down to it's conclusion. What a pity, it was enjoyable. Though he did dislike the circular conversation it could be decent when the people involved were both intelligent and stuck to their beliefs. Though in this case he wished he could have changed their mind, brought them over to his side. But he knew that wasn't likely when the conversation got midway through.
"I will remember your words, and I do hope my own will be remembered. As for your friends...I will treat them as they treat me. I will not say anything more on that." He would not make a promise he was unlikely to keep, as he doubted they would treat him well should he run into Ganymede's friends. "A bid you....a good evening..."And finished.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:39 am
“Not a leader and don’t want to be because I don’t really care to babysit a bunch of people, but here I am trying to talk things out, so there’s one person willing to negotiate. Could name another, too, but…” he trailed off, not seeing any point in it at the moment.
He got tired of this. So tired. Not the conversation itself. He brought that part of it onto himself with the way he approached people and had a policy of talking—or trying to—before fighting. But he hated this ‘we’re better because we’re more organized’ crap he’d heard a couple of times already. He’d heard someone harping about it at the last meeting of the senshi and knights, and here it was again, like everyone should strive to be like the Negaverse, and being different, being individuals and carrying their own beliefs and fighting for their own reasons was bad.
Maybe the senshi and the knight didn’t get together and plan organized attacks that left countless dead, maybe they argued a lot and didn’t always listen to one another as well as they should, maybe they didn’t really have true leaders—certainly not the Moon Queen, and in Ganymede’s opinion the current royalty wasn’t any better, and didn’t seem likely to be in the future—but when things got rough, when the coin flipped, when the attack came and the Negaverse and the senshi of the Dark Mirror did their best to squash them, they stood together. Loosely, temporarily, maybe, but they were capable of aiding and defending one another despite their disagreements, despite the disorganization that apparently made them so much less than the big, bag Negaverse.
Wasn’t that a powerful statement? The Negaverse might be close knit, and maybe some of them were protective of their friends. But didn’t protecting someone you didn’t even like all that much show more conviction to a cause than following a set of orders?
He supposed he’d never know.
“Yeah, yeah,” Ganymede said with a wave of his hand and a roll of his eyes. “Peace out, General Ben. I suppose I’ll catch you around at some point. Probably the next time there’s this big, epic battle to the death.”
He said that nonchalantly, but he rather hoped it wouldn’t happen for a long, long time.
“As you were,” he ended with a mocking bow, before straightening up, turning on his heel, and flouncing away.
As he was wont to do.
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