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 Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:25 pm
lymelady "And then the man puts his....and then she...and then they..." Andy's right though. In this case, the girl refused the abortion and it didn't do anything for her except get her killed. Telling your daughter things isn't going to do any good if she goes out and has sex with guys who don't share her values. Things like this happen. Thankfully, it usually doesn't end up in the girl dying, but a lot of cases end with the unborn child dying. if she knows the truth though, how these things happen, then it doesn't really matter- if i have a daughter who has an elective abortion, she is not living in my house. assuming, of course, i even have a daughter
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:36 pm
divineseraph lymelady "And then the man puts his....and then she...and then they..." Andy's right though. In this case, the girl refused the abortion and it didn't do anything for her except get her killed. Telling your daughter things isn't going to do any good if she goes out and has sex with guys who don't share her values. Things like this happen. Thankfully, it usually doesn't end up in the girl dying, but a lot of cases end with the unborn child dying. if she knows the truth though, how these things happen, then it doesn't really matter- if i have a daughter who has an elective abortion, she is not living in my house. assuming, of course, i even have a daughter I agree she should know the truth, but in this unfortunate case, even knowing not to abort didn't help that girl. She was just plain killed for not aborting. The sad part is I bet there are people who're prochoice who think she's stupid for not aborting. "She was only 15, he had a wife and 4 kids, she was being selfish, if abortion wasn't available more people would kill girls since they wouldn't be able to abort, she died for a lump of cells that also died ROTFL SHE SO STUPID!"
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:55 pm
lymelady divineseraph lymelady "And then the man puts his....and then she...and then they..." Andy's right though. In this case, the girl refused the abortion and it didn't do anything for her except get her killed. Telling your daughter things isn't going to do any good if she goes out and has sex with guys who don't share her values. Things like this happen. Thankfully, it usually doesn't end up in the girl dying, but a lot of cases end with the unborn child dying. if she knows the truth though, how these things happen, then it doesn't really matter- if i have a daughter who has an elective abortion, she is not living in my house. assuming, of course, i even have a daughter I agree she should know the truth, but in this unfortunate case, even knowing not to abort didn't help that girl. She was just plain killed for not aborting. The sad part is I bet there are people who're prochoice who think she's stupid for not aborting. "She was only 15, he had a wife and 4 kids, she was being selfish, if abortion wasn't available more people would kill girls since they wouldn't be able to abort, she died for a lump of cells that also died ROTFL SHE SO STUPID!" yes, that is true... hopefully, should i have a daughter, she will have the sense to wait until she's ready for sex, let alone sex with men three times her age... oh, btw, there may be a girl in one of my classes who is pregnant- i overheard he talking... she was trying to be quiet and secretive about it, which made it more obvious... something along the lines of "him" and "it's been two weeks" she may be counting weeks until her period... should i confront her about this and offer support? i don't really know her, and i've been debating wether or not i should slip her a note just in case
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:55 am
I could never kick my daughter out, even if she did have an abortion. I am against abortion, and I would make her know that I do not approve of it, but I could never throw her out.
And about telling small children about the ugliness of reality... Well um, I would not lie. Of course, depending on the age, I'd consider what I tell the child. My niece asked her mother where babies come from, when she was three, because she got a younger sister. Do you think a three-year old child (1) would have the patience to listen to what happens when it goes there, and blabla. Or (2) would understand it if it was told like that. I think my sister explained it like "When mommy and daddy love eachother very much, they want to be very close to eachother, and daddy and mommy make the baby grow in her tummy." It's hard to translate from Finnish, but along those lines. I think that was a good way of telling it to a three year old.
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:01 am
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:04 am
Aurora Ruthven I could never kick my daughter out, even if she did have an abortion. I am against abortion, and I would make her know that I do not approve of it, but I could never throw her out. And about telling small children about the ugliness of reality... Well um, I would not lie. Of course, depending on the age, I'd consider what I tell the child. My niece asked her mother where babies come from, when she was three, because she got a younger sister. Do you think a three-year old child (1) would have the patience to listen to what happens when it goes there, and blabla. Or (2) would understand it if it was told like that. I think my sister explained it like "When mommy and daddy love eachother very much, they want to be very close to eachother, and daddy and mommy make the baby grow in her tummy." It's hard to translate from Finnish, but along those lines. I think that was a good way of telling it to a three year old. That's how my parents told me. I always assumed that mothers just spontaneously got pregnant before that xd
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:08 am
divineseraph oh, btw, there may be a girl in one of my classes who is pregnant- i overheard he talking... she was trying to be quiet and secretive about it, which made it more obvious... something along the lines of "him" and "it's been two weeks" she may be counting weeks until her period... should i confront her about this and offer support? i don't really know her, and i've been debating wether or not i should slip her a note just in case
I had something like that happen before, there was a rumour going around that a girl was pregnant. Luckly, even though I didn't know her well she was in the GSA and since I'm president and all I just pulled her aside and was all "There's a rumour going around that you're pregnant, I don't know if it's true or not but I thought that you would like to know that people are talking about it." and she said that she had thought she was pregnant (which caused her to pass out and get taken away in the abulance, hense the rumours) but that the first test she'd taken was wrong.
Either way I gave her the number and website of Birthright, told her what they did and said that if she even found that she was pregnant to give them a call.
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:09 am
lymelady Aurora Ruthven I could never kick my daughter out, even if she did have an abortion. I am against abortion, and I would make her know that I do not approve of it, but I could never throw her out. And about telling small children about the ugliness of reality... Well um, I would not lie. Of course, depending on the age, I'd consider what I tell the child. My niece asked her mother where babies come from, when she was three, because she got a younger sister. Do you think a three-year old child (1) would have the patience to listen to what happens when it goes there, and blabla. Or (2) would understand it if it was told like that. I think my sister explained it like "When mommy and daddy love eachother very much, they want to be very close to eachother, and daddy and mommy make the baby grow in her tummy." It's hard to translate from Finnish, but along those lines. I think that was a good way of telling it to a three year old. That's how my parents told me. I always assumed that mothers just spontaneously got pregnant before that xd Heeh. The same niece (being four now) told my other sister that she's not an adult (my sister is 28 ). When my sister asked why, Sandra answered "your tummy never got big." It was very cute.
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:11 am
lymelady Aurora Ruthven I could never kick my daughter out, even if she did have an abortion. I am against abortion, and I would make her know that I do not approve of it, but I could never throw her out. And about telling small children about the ugliness of reality... Well um, I would not lie. Of course, depending on the age, I'd consider what I tell the child. My niece asked her mother where babies come from, when she was three, because she got a younger sister. Do you think a three-year old child (1) would have the patience to listen to what happens when it goes there, and blabla. Or (2) would understand it if it was told like that. I think my sister explained it like "When mommy and daddy love eachother very much, they want to be very close to eachother, and daddy and mommy make the baby grow in her tummy." It's hard to translate from Finnish, but along those lines. I think that was a good way of telling it to a three year old. That's how my parents told me. I always assumed that mothers just spontaneously got pregnant before that xd
Before that I thought you got pregnant from kissing the person that you were married to, because another book that I had kind of made it seem like that. It was about a family of beavers and they were having a baby and their little beaver asked where the baby comes from. So yeah. XD
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:13 am
(I found out from my older friends.)
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:15 am
Aurora Ruthven (I found out from my older friends.)
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:18 am
Beware the Jabberwock Aurora Ruthven (I found out from my older friends.) Wow, that made me laugh so hard.
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:20 am
Beware the Jabberwock Before that I thought you got pregnant from kissing the person that you were married to, because another book that I had kind of made it seem like that. It was about a family of beavers and they were having a baby and their little beaver asked where the baby comes from. So yeah. XD That's what I thought too. I learned about "egg," "sperm" and "conception" at a young age but I didn't learn how the sperm got there for a while. I assumed it was a special kiss since that's what mommys and daddys do when they really love each other. XD
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:24 am
i never got "the talk", my dad tried, but i already knew pretty much everything there was to know. *edit*- well, not EVERYTHING, but i knew how it worked, why, the risks, the gains. and in fact, i had measured them to be an unsuitably dangerous risk...what with STD's floating around, pregnancy, emotional trauma from having o one-night stand with someone who said they loved you... not worth it, for me.
i just sort of...knew, inherently. it was just kind of...obvious to me, i guess- males have one part, females another, and it takes two of them to have a child- (mother and father)- so, i infered that the cause was because of the difference between males in females, otherwise, girls could get girls pregnant and guys could get guys pregnant. i didn't know HOW exactly the two parts were different or how they worked, but i knew it had to do with them.
but yeah, i wouldn;t go into technical detail, i'd dumb it down for them a lot- i know that a child wouldn't understand, so i'd probably tell them something like the "when a mommy and a daddy love eachother very much" sort of thing
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:29 am
divineseraph i never got "the talk", my dad tried, but i already knew pretty much everything there was to know. i just sort of...knew, inherently. it was just kind of...obvious to me, i guess- males have one part, females another, and it takes two of them to have a child- (mother and father)- so, i infered that the cause was because of the difference between males in females, otherwise, girls could get girls pregnant and guys could get guys pregnant. i didn't know HOW exactly the two parts were different or how they worked, but i knew it had to do with them. but yeah, i wouldn;t go into technical detail, i'd dumb it down for them a lot- i know that a child wouldn't understand, so i'd probably tell them something like the "when a mommy and a daddy love eachother very much" sort of thing
I'm not one for dumbing things down. Just like my children will never hear about Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. They'll get gifts and stocking like everyone else, but I'm not going to tell them about some made up character who gives them presents.
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