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Nerdanel_Caitlin
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:42 pm


vwytche
eek I need to get around to making a subforum for sharing original writings. This was........words fail.


That would be a GREAT idea!! Also, thank you. *blush*
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:18 pm


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vwytche
eek I need to get around to making a subforum for sharing original writings. This was........words fail.


That would be a GREAT idea!! Also, thank you. *blush*


All done

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:09 pm


Nyx Reborn
About a year ago, I lost my boyfriend to death. It was a shock to have it happen so suddenly. But as I have come to realize, death is a gift, it gives us rest till its time to return and learn new lessons, kinda like summer vacation from school. I am not afraid of death, but I don't completely like seeing it or experiencing it either. And I agree, immortality would be a curse.
Thank you for posting.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:03 am


Nyx Reborn
About a year ago, I lost my boyfriend to death. It was a shock to have it happen so suddenly. But as I have come to realize, death is a gift, it gives us rest till its time to return and learn new lessons, kinda like summer vacation from school. I am not afraid of death, but I don't completely like seeing it or experiencing it either. And I agree, immortality would be a curse.
You have my sympathies, thank you for sharing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:25 pm


No matter what you believe, the world's gotta end sometime.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:18 pm


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There’s no time for us, there’s no place for us. What is this thing that builds our dreams… yet slips away from us? Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever?
There’s no chance for us, It’s all decided for us, this world has only one sweet moment set aside for us, Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever?……………………………........
Who dares to love forever?.…… When love must die!
Queen, Highlander
Sooner or later you will be torn from the one you love, what will you do then?


well... i will wait for them because when you think about it our body arent made to last but the soul lives on, if i had to wait three centuries to be born, i can die, and wait melinia to be with that one for me. i guess then time wont be an issue ne? heart

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:14 am


The point of the thread was not what will happen when you die but what will you do, IE how will you handle it when those closest to you die and you are left alone to carry on without them. I started the question with the song from Highlander but it is not really about immortals, we will all face this someday and the longer you live the more people you will watch die. This was meant to evoke reflection and self examination. If you think the answer is easy then you haven't lived through it yet. Give it some real thought. Thank you.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:17 am


Nerdanel_Caitlin
I wrote a short story on this very topic, actually, some while ago. It was entitle "Cartaphilus is Dead."

Cartaphilus, was a man (either a Roman soldier or a Jewish passerby, depending on the legend) who supposedly taunted and mocked Christ on the way to his crucifixion. He was cursed by Jesus to wander the earth and never die until the second coming.

(For the record, I don't believe the legend has any basis in reality, because I have a hard time believing the Jesus of forgiveness and love would do something so bitchy, even on a really rough day. Still, it's a cool story, and it speaks to the fact that the agonies of human immortality have been wondered about for a long time.)

I would hate to be immortal--unless MAYBE I could also bestow that gift on my loved ones. And even then, the sheer exhaustion of day-to-day existence would really wear on me after a couple of centuries. After all, eternal life doesn't guarantee eternal wealth, eternal happiness, eternal beauty, or even eternal youth.

Still....how tempting it would be. Especially with eternal youth on your side!

It would be fascinating to see the tides of history flow and ebb, see how far the human race could advance or regress. Eternal life would enable one to learn almost anything and everything. I imagine picking a different field of study every decade or so--science, art, medicine, history, archaeology, anthropology, music, language, dance--and then starting over in the field once sufficient advancements are made that your knowledge is rendered obsolete. Imagine the history one could preserve, the knowledge that would otherwise be lost. An immortal could accomplish a lot of good in the world--or a lot of evil.

But the loneliness... I can barely fathom it. How much would it hurt to see loved ones, friends, teachers, pets, family...children, eve...grow old and die. Imagine how many funerals could one attend before one's mind broke down completely? How many times would you beg to die to any deity that would listen? I imagine it could only end in one of two things--madness or sociopathy.

Or, maybe, in time, you would come to accept it. Who knows?

If your loved ones could live alongside you....hmm. Perhaps then immortality would be bearable. That might be endurable. But what if they got tired of immortality and then came to resent YOU for the gift/curse? That would be even worse than hating yourself.

I may need to dig up and revise Cartaphilus is Dead. This question has given me a lot to think about.
Thank you so very much, you have obviously given this some thought.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:23 am


bearcatthorin
Thank you so very much, you have obviously given this some thought.


*bow* I do my best to give satisfaction.

It's a really fascinating topic. Pops up everywhere, in every mythology. Almost unfathomable.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:27 am


Nerdanel_Caitlin
bearcatthorin
Thank you so very much, you have obviously given this some thought.


*bow* I do my best to give satisfaction.

It's a really fascinating topic. Pops up everywhere, in every mythology. Almost unfathomable.
Everywhere is right, this is very near to my heart. I live with it every day. That's why I take it so seriously.

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