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 Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:11 am
Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:31 pm
Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:34 pm
Umbrae Ac Silentium Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:11 pm
Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:18 pm
Umbrae Ac Silentium Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Listen, if you made a topic about wanting to kill yourself, then spent a month in the damn hospital, came back to the ONLY ******** place you thought you'd be accepted, and found some stupid little comment that's a 'joke' where it shouldn't have been put, THEN you would have a legit reason to be mad. So, you know, if you're mad at me getting mad, then you shouldn't have joked around in such a sensitive area.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:49 pm
Umbrae Ac Silentium Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:17 pm
tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Its Me Mr Pregnant Umbrae Ac Silentium You said that you aren't religious, but if Christians are right, you'll probably be situated between murderers, rapists, and liars if you go through with it. I was about to go through with it myself when I said, eh, why take the chance? Liars? Every single person lies, to themselves, to others. If that's your argument, we're all going to hell. If Christians are right, then God is a corrupt, evil man. Why would he create people just to go to hell? Back in 'Jesus' time, one of the worst things you could do is disobey your parents.. if we stand beside something that's been changed so many times and is old, we might as well stand by all of it. Most all teenagers have disobeyed their parents. Are they going to hell? According to the bible, that's an awful thing to do.. yet we put all the ******** blame on suicide, homosexuality, murder, abuse.. if you're going to bring your so called god in to this, then do NOT classify myself with such awful people. I hurt MYSELF, I didn't ******** rape someone, I didn't kill anyone.. if suicide and rape are on the same level, then I ******** wish my attempt worked, because this world is complete s**t. Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these. The subject of the joke was Christians, not people considering suicide. So here comes the straw man that I am teasing people with suicide ideation instead of Christians, who are frequently the subject of joke and ridicule.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:34 pm
Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these. The subject of the joke was Christians, not people considering suicide. So here comes the straw man that I am teasing people with suicide ideation instead of Christians, who are frequently the subject of joke and ridicule. Some of these threads in this subforum aren't meant for jokes or ridicule. Please be careful about what you say.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:09 am
tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium Immoral Oblivion Umbrae Ac Silentium Eh... alright, relax, it was sort of a joke. I'm an atheist. Sort of a joke in a subforum meant for mature behavior, especially in a topic about suicide? Great, another reason the world is complete s**t. God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these. The subject of the joke was Christians, not people considering suicide. So here comes the straw man that I am teasing people with suicide ideation instead of Christians, who are frequently the subject of joke and ridicule. Some of these threads in this subforum aren't meant for jokes or ridicule. Please be careful about what you say. Also, by "joke" I mean half-hearted sarcasm and by "ridicule" I mean "ridicule," but I wasn't ridiculing anyone when I said that, now was I? I think maybe I got a little defensive when Immortal started bashing me based on this god that I don't believe in.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:18 am
I'm kinda having trouble understanding your problem icon_neutral.gif But.. based on the comments, I'm thinking it's about suicide... so.. here's my advice:
DO NOT GO TO A THERAPIST!!!! All they're gonna do is give you medication that you don't need, and the problem will never be fixed. Only reduced... and that's not good... cause it'll continue to dwell in you, and grow.. and soon enough, you'll break... (I know by experience... I lost my long-time boyfriend to suicide, and it was because he was on medication instead of dealing with the problem... so it grew and grew, and he broke...)
First thing to do, find out what's making you have these thoughts... once you know what triggers them, it can help you resolve it...
If you find out what it is, talk to a parent/guardian/friend/teacher/counselor/someone close to you. Usually, if you bring up the word "Suicide" or say "I've been having suicidal thoughts" they'll take it VERY seriously.
Find tips on how to stop what's making you have these thoughts, and try and stop it. Trust me, I've had suicidal thoughts before... (Because of the death of my boyfriend, i got extremely depressed.... and i thought about joining him...) And once I realized that this was serious, and needed to be dealt with, I did exactly this.. and it worked. :3
But if you don't do this, and you're about to take action.... please at least to this for me:
Think of the people you love.... think of the people who love you... think of how they'll be if you're gone.... then decide...
And I want you to know my boyfriend's mistakes so you don't make them either:
1. He went to therapy, and took medication instead of dealing with his problem
2. He didn't think of his loved ones when taking action... instead, he thought of what was making him want to... (this one is sorta obvious... cause i know he if he thought of the people he loved... he wouldn't have...)
3. He didn't think of the hurt people will go through... (And damn, it hurt me, 3 of my best friends, both my dads, and all his other 5 friends, etc.)
Seriously... think of those people and the hurt they'll be in... cause my boyfriend didn't, and he was gonna be the guy i was gonna marry and die with.. so yeah... it hurts... and I don't want that kind of pain for anyone else.. Thinking before action is always important..
I hope this helped at least a little... (and sorry for putting some of my personal issues in here... i just needed to use it as an example..)
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 5:29 am
Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these. The subject of the joke was Christians, not people considering suicide. So here comes the straw man that I am teasing people with suicide ideation instead of Christians, who are frequently the subject of joke and ridicule. Some of these threads in this subforum aren't meant for jokes or ridicule. Please be careful about what you say. Also, by "joke" I mean half-hearted sarcasm and by "ridicule" I mean "ridicule," but I wasn't ridiculing anyone when I said that, now was I? I think maybe I got a little defensive when Immortal started bashing me based on this god that I don't believe in. And again. You don't need to walk into these places and start making "jokes" of any kind. I myself may be an agnostic, but I think every person, be it good or bad, has a good reason to be alive, to want to live. The choices we all make may end up getting us on death row or giving us a Pulitzer prize. Who knows. If a person wants to kill them self and comes here seeking a way around it. They like being alive. Even if they live in such a messed up environment. If these people come to a place, like here, and want to talk about these things and possibly some solutions that can work that isn't killing themselves, then we as viewers are kind of supposed to be kind and sympathetic and Not making "jokes" about going to hell with rapists, murders and what not like its a prison sentence. I'm asking you to please be careful what you say in these threads.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:29 pm
tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium tina138 Umbrae Ac Silentium God, let it go, and knock off the flamebait. Ok you two settle down. Umbrae Ac Silentium you do need to remember that this thread and this subforum are sensitive areas. Everyone isn't aways feeling so happy and wants to make jokes all the time in here. Please be respectful of others in threads such these. The subject of the joke was Christians, not people considering suicide. So here comes the straw man that I am teasing people with suicide ideation instead of Christians, who are frequently the subject of joke and ridicule. Some of these threads in this subforum aren't meant for jokes or ridicule. Please be careful about what you say. Also, by "joke" I mean half-hearted sarcasm and by "ridicule" I mean "ridicule," but I wasn't ridiculing anyone when I said that, now was I? I think maybe I got a little defensive when Immortal started bashing me based on this god that I don't believe in. And again. You don't need to walk into these places and start making "jokes" of any kind. I myself may be an agnostic, but I think every person, be it good or bad, has a good reason to be alive, to want to live. The choices we all make may end up getting us on death row or giving us a Pulitzer prize. Who knows. If a person wants to kill them self and comes here seeking a way around it. They like being alive. Even if they live in such a messed up environment. If these people come to a place, like here, and want to talk about these things and possibly some solutions that can work that isn't killing themselves, then we as viewers are kind of supposed to be kind and sympathetic and Not making "jokes" about going to hell with rapists, murders and what not like its a prison sentence. I'm asking you to please be careful what you say in these threads. But... but... *sigh* ...fine...
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:53 pm
There are a few options, drastic, but there.
If you "run away" (not really trying to run away), they will put you in a government home for at least a month. You can't go anywhere or do anything, and your rights are severely limited, but at least you would be out of the house.
You can call a mental health hospital and tell them you are contemplating suicide and you need help. Again, your rights will be taken away (MUCH worse here), but you will be able to get out of the house and with time you get more and more freedoms as you stay, and they will council you and your parents and help you. If your parents are not willing to do what needs to be done to help you, you can just call up there. Trust me, they will.
Also, I know you are not religious... but you can call a church and get counciling for free. They won't shove anything down your throat, but it will give you a trusted adult to turn to and a hopefully good, caring person to look after, listen to, and advise you.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:09 pm
I honestly have nothing to say, your problem isn’t mine and I haven’t been in your shoes, so I have no idea what you are feeling. I’m not going to pity you. Just for some advice I say turn to something you can trust.
Thats all i’m going to say and nothing more.
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