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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:59 am


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get
The South has a bad feature of encouraging "blaming the victim". I member hearing horror stories of blaming rape on the person that was raped because "they were asking for it. Just look at how they dressed/looked/some other bullshit excuse."
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:02 am


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get
The South has a bad feature of encouraging "blaming the victim". I member hearing horror stories of blaming rape on the person that was raped because "they were asking for it. Just look at how they dressed/looked/some other bullshit excuse."


Yes, I have heard that too. A lot actually... So they're saying they asked for it in some way or another O.o Really...

Is the south really that much behind the north?! I mean really? Where are all of these nutjobs comming from?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:08 am


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get
The South has a bad feature of encouraging "blaming the victim". I member hearing horror stories of blaming rape on the person that was raped because "they were asking for it. Just look at how they dressed/looked/some other bullshit excuse."


Yes, I have heard that too. A lot actually... So they're saying they asked for it in some way or another O.o Really...

Is the south really that much behind the north?! I mean really? Where are all of these nutjobs comming from?
I can't speak for all of the South but I know Louisiana is pretty behind the times.

I don't know where those nutters are coming from.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:13 am


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Aakosir
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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get
The South has a bad feature of encouraging "blaming the victim". I member hearing horror stories of blaming rape on the person that was raped because "they were asking for it. Just look at how they dressed/looked/some other bullshit excuse."


Yes, I have heard that too. A lot actually... So they're saying they asked for it in some way or another O.o Really...

Is the south really that much behind the north?! I mean really? Where are all of these nutjobs comming from?
I can't speak for all of the South but I know Louisiana is pretty behind the times.

I don't know where those nutters are coming from.


I've heard some bad things about Lousianna. Their school systems are apparantly the worst in the country? If not, then they are close. My friend moved to Lousianna and she had to be put, I think, two grades higher, but they didn't. They just kept her in 9th grade. They eventually got her transferred to another school system that was better.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:20 am


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I've heard some bad things about Lousianna. Their school systems are apparantly the worst in the country? If not, then they are close. My friend moved to Lousianna and she had to be put, I think, two grades higher, but they didn't. They just kept her in 9th grade. They eventually got her transferred to another school system that was better.
They cut the education budget drastically after I moved about 3 years ago. I'm not surprised.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:25 am


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I've heard some bad things about Lousianna. Their school systems are apparantly the worst in the country? If not, then they are close. My friend moved to Lousianna and she had to be put, I think, two grades higher, but they didn't. They just kept her in 9th grade. They eventually got her transferred to another school system that was better.
They cut the education budget drastically after I moved about 3 years ago. I'm not surprised.


Heh... It seems all we talk about in my teaching classes are the budget cuts and how we're going to work around them.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:31 am


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I've heard some bad things about Lousianna. Their school systems are apparantly the worst in the country? If not, then they are close. My friend moved to Lousianna and she had to be put, I think, two grades higher, but they didn't. They just kept her in 9th grade. They eventually got her transferred to another school system that was better.
They cut the education budget drastically after I moved about 3 years ago. I'm not surprised.


Heh... It seems all we talk about in my teaching classes are the budget cuts and how we're going to work around them.


Lousiana's higher education cuts
One notable highlight (note the article is from April 2004):
"Louisiana has cut about $250 million from its college and university system over the last 16 months. And now another $30 million will go unspent because of Gov. Bobby Jindal's hiring freeze."
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:19 pm


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I've heard some bad things about Lousianna. Their school systems are apparantly the worst in the country? If not, then they are close. My friend moved to Lousianna and she had to be put, I think, two grades higher, but they didn't. They just kept her in 9th grade. They eventually got her transferred to another school system that was better.
They cut the education budget drastically after I moved about 3 years ago. I'm not surprised.


Heh... It seems all we talk about in my teaching classes are the budget cuts and how we're going to work around them.


Lousiana's higher education cuts
One notable highlight (note the article is from April 2004):
"Louisiana has cut about $250 million from its college and university system over the last 16 months. And now another $30 million will go unspent because of Gov. Bobby Jindal's hiring freeze."


I do not understand how they can afford to cut that much. But by freezing hiring, it is more understandable. But it's still screwed up...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:23 pm


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get


Sounds like he's trying to place a stigma on a person for claiming domestic violence in order to prevent anyone from calling in domestic violence. I'd almost wonder if this would be a method to filter out cases where people lie about such things in revenge or spite, but there's entirely too many cases where it does occur to allow such a stigma to be placed on someone. I'm speculating that it occurs far more often than not in the South but it's really unwarranted speculation, bear in mind.

But honestly altogether it sounds like he's a chauvinist b*****d.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:17 pm


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get


Sounds like he's trying to place a stigma on a person for claiming domestic violence in order to prevent anyone from calling in domestic violence. I'd almost wonder if this would be a method to filter out cases where people lie about such things in revenge or spite, but there's entirely too many cases where it does occur to allow such a stigma to be placed on someone. I'm speculating that it occurs far more often than not in the South but it's really unwarranted speculation, bear in mind.

But honestly altogether it sounds like he's a chauvinist b*****d.


*Goes and looks up chauvinist* Yes, I definitely agree with that. I really do think he is going about this very blind and biased.

I could see how they would do something to insight fear in the people who do actually lie for the attention, but it's just stupid. That's going to be a 1 out of 50 case, that lies. So it's a waste of time and money.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:47 pm


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Geesh and victims of domestic violence are "accusers?"

*shakes head*


I'm not so sure I understand that part. Is it saying that the victims are possibly making up a story? That they are lying for attention or something? That's what I get


Sounds like he's trying to place a stigma on a person for claiming domestic violence in order to prevent anyone from calling in domestic violence. I'd almost wonder if this would be a method to filter out cases where people lie about such things in revenge or spite, but there's entirely too many cases where it does occur to allow such a stigma to be placed on someone. I'm speculating that it occurs far more often than not in the South but it's really unwarranted speculation, bear in mind.

But honestly altogether it sounds like he's a chauvinist b*****d.


*Goes and looks up chauvinist* Yes, I definitely agree with that. I really do think he is going about this very blind and biased.

I could see how they would do something to insight fear in the people who do actually lie for the attention, but it's just stupid. That's going to be a 1 out of 50 case, that lies. So it's a waste of time and money.


Oh I agree.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:09 pm


Shadows-shine
I do have a small question, springing from mild curiousity, is there any legitimacy about this proposed legislation? I haven't seen it reported in the news and maybe I'm not doing research in the right place. Can some one point me in the right direction?


Georgia General Assembly - HB 1

Quote:
(2) 'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event.


Quote:
SECTION 2.14.
Said title is further amended by revising subsection (a) of Code Section 31-10-18, relating to registration of spontaneous fetal deaths, as follows:
"(a) A report of spontaneous fetal death for each spontaneous fetal death which occurs in this state shall be filed with the local registrar of the county in which the delivery occurred within 72 hours after such delivery in accordance with this Code section unless the place of fetal death is unknown, in which case a fetal death certificate shall be filed in the county in which the dead fetus was found within 72 hours after such occurrence. All induced terminations of pregnancy shall be reported in the manner prescribed in Code Section 31-10-19. Preparation and filing of reports of spontaneous fetal death shall be as follows:
(1) When a dead fetus is delivered in an institution, the person in charge of the institution or that person's designated representative shall prepare and file the report;
(2) When a dead fetus is delivered outside an institution, the physician in attendance at or immediately after delivery shall prepare and file the report;
(3) When a spontaneous fetal death required to be reported by this Code section occurs without medical attendance at or immediately after the delivery or when inquiry is required by Article 2 of Chapter 16 of Title 45, the 'Georgia Death Investigation Act,' the proper investigating official shall investigate the cause of fetal death and shall prepare and file the report within 30 days; and
(4) When a spontaneous fetal death occurs in a moving conveyance and the fetus is first removed from the conveyance in this state or when a dead fetus is found in this state and the place of fetal death is unknown, the fetal death shall be reported in this state. The place where the fetus was first removed from the conveyance or the dead fetus was found shall be considered the place of fetal death."


Doesn't seem to be all that recent though (last action on it was in 2009), but I do know that the legislative process moves really slowly, so it could still be on the table.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:39 pm


I literally just heard about it a few weeks ago. The day that I made this thread was when I heard about it.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:12 pm


I think I posted the question somewhere here about if you induce a miscarriage if it should count as abortion (cause I know someone who has admitted to doing it three times and since a doctor didn't do it, it's ok with god). I guess something like that would count, but the death penalty seems extreme. But there's not only the physical trauma with miscarriage, but the emotional trauma, and then to be accused of murder is horrible.
The domestic violence victims as 'accusers' is horrendous.

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