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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:58 pm
Jedi Sasquatch Quote: Myth: The people who talk about it don't do it. I feel like that should be rephrased. Not everyone who talks about it really does it. Sad as it is, some people will say it just to get someone to listen to them.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:59 pm
Jedi Sasquatch Song Riter227 I had a lesson on this planned for my guy's/girls group.... But thanks for putting this up anyway Jedi, and nice job on it. Mind if I borrow this post and throw it on a poster board? Go for it, buddy. Might want to edit it a bit first though. Nope, your words are just fine the way they are, because I got approval to use any language/techniques I choose in my classes thanks to my school board.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:17 pm
Song Riter227 Jedi Sasquatch Song Riter227 I had a lesson on this planned for my guy's/girls group.... But thanks for putting this up anyway Jedi, and nice job on it. Mind if I borrow this post and throw it on a poster board? Go for it, buddy. Might want to edit it a bit first though. Nope, your words are just fine the way they are, because I got approval to use any language/techniques I choose in my classes thanks to my school board. Well I meant the stuff that refers to the guild. Like the part at the beginning about closing the thread. Shiori Miko Jedi Sasquatch Quote: Myth: The people who talk about it don't do it. I feel like that should be rephrased. Not everyone who talks about it really does it. Sad as it is, some people will say it just to get someone to listen to them. While that is true, the myth is that nobody who talks about it actually does it. Or very few. And that's blatantly false.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:19 pm
Of course I was going to edit that out.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:19 pm
Actually I think this makes a nice PSA. There are too many assumptions with the way people treat suicide.
My son tried to kill himself in November. I've been suicidal too. A number of my friends are also bipolar and and have thought about if not attempted it at some point. Then there are those who have terminal illnesses or chronic pain. There are so many ways that life can be too painful or simply too much. I don't think people stop to think about the irony of telling someone that suicide is selfish and that that person should keep on living and suffering just to make someone else happy.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:21 pm
And I have no idea about the various dramas that are occurring outside the forum
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:29 pm
I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:52 pm
Misa Catailia I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding And burn down in eternal suffering and other stuff because they can't find another job? Anyway, nice to hear you're feeling better now Jedi. *hugs* I hope that helps too. :3 *hugs more*
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:54 pm
Reglare Excile Misa Catailia I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding And burn down in eternal suffering and other stuff because they can't find another job? Anyway, nice to hear you're feeling better now Jedi. *hugs* I hope that helps too. :3 *hugs more* Can't suffer if your dead as far as I know. dramallama
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:59 pm
Misa Catailia Reglare Excile Misa Catailia I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding And burn down in eternal suffering and other stuff because they can't find another job? Anyway, nice to hear you're feeling better now Jedi. *hugs* I hope that helps too. :3 *hugs more* Can't suffer if your dead as far as I know. dramallama Depends, but that's because I respect others' beliefs. As far as I know, spirits can suffer more.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:14 pm
Reglare Excile Misa Catailia Reglare Excile Misa Catailia I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding And burn down in eternal suffering and other stuff because they can't find another job? Anyway, nice to hear you're feeling better now Jedi. *hugs* I hope that helps too. :3 *hugs more* Can't suffer if your dead as far as I know. dramallama Depends, but that's because I respect others' beliefs. As far as I know, spirits can suffer more. Trueture. I'm just at nulled beliefs until I actually die. o3o;;
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:16 pm
Misa Catailia Reglare Excile Misa Catailia Reglare Excile Misa Catailia I just gotta say this: Suicide is humans way of saying "You cant fire me, I ******** quit!" to god. 3nodding And burn down in eternal suffering and other stuff because they can't find another job? Anyway, nice to hear you're feeling better now Jedi. *hugs* I hope that helps too. :3 *hugs more* Can't suffer if your dead as far as I know. dramallama Depends, but that's because I respect others' beliefs. As far as I know, spirits can suffer more. Trueture. I'm just at nulled beliefs until I actually die. o3o;; I suggest not trying to learn what awaits then. o.o
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:37 pm
I don't see why we shouldn't say some of those things. I've said a lot of those to plenty of other suicidal people, and in doing so, I've succeeded in discouraging them from committing suicide.
I can't exactly defend my reasoning without this discussion devolving into a full-blown debate, so I guess I'll leave it at that.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:13 am
Foam-Dome I don't see why we shouldn't say some of those things. I've said a lot of those to plenty of other suicidal people, and in doing so, I've succeeded in discouraging them from committing suicide. I can't exactly defend my reasoning without this discussion devolving into a full-blown debate, so I guess I'll leave it at that. Never thought I'd say thank God for my Insomnia cause if I wasn't up at like 5am my friend would have cut himself. And I stayed up 3 days after to make sure he went to bed and didn't try anything.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:12 am
Khlowi Never thought I'd say thank God for my Insomnia cause if I wasn't up at like 5am my friend would have cut himself. And I stayed up 3 days after to make sure he went to bed and didn't try anything. If I had my own world.... 
This. I don't have insomnia, but I stayed up countless times with some people, getting them to talk to me about it and keeping their minds on other things by simply playing games and stuff or talking about something else. I find that its good to ask a suicidal person questions, not always directly about their reasons (sometimes not related at all if appropriate), as long as they're not negative like "Whats the point? Why are you doing this?". Sometimes pointing them in the direction of certain songs can help bring them out of their selfdestructive mood, though you gotta be careful that the songs have the right interpretations.
This thread is great Jedi smile And my SS run the other night was to simply give some friends a distraction so they didn't feel down. Hope it worked. Again. Brilliant piece of information. *twitches ear like a grunny & nods*
....I'd build you an Empire
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