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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:10 am
... Lambo sometimes thinks that a lot of people look the same...
Sometimes Asians/Sometimes Caucasians..
Lambo has the most difficulty telling apart Caucasians- unless they have dfiferent hair colors... otherwise, Lambo's just lost easily...
There's two people in Lambo's class that Lambo swears look exactly the same but Lambo knows they're not related...
=w= Lambo can't tell apart some asians cause their hairstyle and faceshape are really simiar...
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:36 am
[~Lam~] There's two people in Lambo's class that Lambo swears look exactly the same but Lambo knows they're not related... I have that same problem in one of my classes, and unfortunately I often talk to both those people. Which means there's more opportunity to mix them up, one of them is also in my chemistry class and the day before the test I was talking to the other person and asked if she was ready for the chemistry test... ya, I figured out I was wrong pretty quickly. And then I mix up which name belongs to which person a lot. So it's not that I can't recognize differences, it's just that I forget. I had a lot of problems with this when I was in Japan, I think it has something to do with the fact that I'm not familiar with a lot of the names. And it's easier to remember a name that's familiar, and if it's familiar it's easier to match it to a person.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:59 am
Warrax1 Oh, I've heard this statement before. I suppose the theory Cleo has given does make sense. However, there is a lack of effort on the part of those who make such a claim, as all things are easily distinguishable if you try.
This. They don't value the people enough to even try because they go in there thinking "Meh, they're all the same anyway, so who cares?"
And I don't think this is about people saying "I can't tell which country in Asia that person is from." It's more like when people around here say things like "All black people look the same" (even though Cleveland is more than 50% black, so it's not like they've never seen a black person before XP)
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:04 am
Hidden Arc CH0Z0 Jer0nim0 CH0Z0 Catherine (to me) is obviously Filipino in ethnicity and my mom's like "how do you know, she barely looks asian" xd Fix'd. And yeah, I've seen Filipinos who've looked Chinese, Indonesian, Latino, even Indian once. x,x; I'd no idea. I can only sometimes name a nationality, really. Both Philippine and Filipino can refer to those of the Philippines. Philippine |ˈfiləˌpēn| adjective of or relating to the Philippines. See also Filipino. Filipino |ˌfiləˈpēnō| (also Pilipino) adjective of or relating to the Philippines, the Filipinos, or their language. You fixed a synonym xp Not sure where you read that, but I say it's rather a misunderstanding. <.< Not good at explaining right now. Headache. I don't believe my dictionary is making a misunderstanding xd
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:05 am
Hidden Arc CH0Z0 Jer0nim0 CH0Z0 Catherine (to me) is obviously Filipino in ethnicity and my mom's like "how do you know, she barely looks asian" xd Fix'd. And yeah, I've seen Filipinos who've looked Chinese, Indonesian, Latino, even Indian once. x,x; I'd no idea. I can only sometimes name a nationality, really. Both Philippine and Filipino can refer to those of the Philippines. Philippine |ˈfiləˌpēn| adjective of or relating to the Philippines. See also Filipino. Filipino |ˌfiləˈpēnō| (also Pilipino) adjective of or relating to the Philippines, the Filipinos, or their language. You fixed a synonym xp Not sure where you read that, but I say it's rather a misunderstanding. <.< Not good at explaining right now. Headache. This. It's kind of Oriental and Asian, in some ways. One is used as a way to describe items/things. The other is used to describe people. If misused, I've seen people rage about the difference between the two and I lol really, really hard. xD
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:46 am
Kam sees where your coming from, Maybe thats the case for many peoples(not sure).
I usually never noticed heh(Usually in my case it depends on what they are wearing:Clothes, color, make up)
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:32 am
o0o thanks for sharing cleo....i never looked for the explanation as to why people say that....i get confused sometimes but i think its mostly cuz of my bad memory stressed well i have a huge family and so i get a lot of ppl mistaking me for one of my cousins and im thinking we look totally different but they dont think so....
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:46 am
Ironically enough, we're talking about racial stereotypes in English right now...
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:03 am
Lost in Fiction o0o thanks for sharing cleo....i never looked for the explanation as to why people say that....i get confused sometimes but i think its mostly cuz of my bad memory stressed well i have a huge family and so i get a lot of ppl mistaking me for one of my cousins and im thinking we look totally different but they dont think so....OMG, YOU TOO?! So do I! :'D
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:02 pm
CH0Z0 Jer0nim0 CH0Z0 Catherine (to me) is obviously Filipino in ethnicity and my mom's like "how do you know, she barely looks asian" xd Fix'd. And yeah, I've seen Filipinos who've looked Chinese, Indonesian, Latino, even Indian once. x,x; I'd no idea. I can only sometimes name a nationality, really. Both Philippine and Filipino can refer to those of the Philippines. Philippine |ˈfiləˌpēn| adjective of or relating to the Philippines. See also Filipino. Filipino |ˌfiləˈpēnō| (also Pilipino) adjective of or relating to the Philippines, the Filipinos, or their language. You fixed a synonym xp At the easterner mix up, idk, they just all look distinct to me. I identified my friend's Alaskan/Native American ancestry by looking at her nose, they usually have distinctly prominent noses with a very distinct (I think it's attractive) shape. I'm Filipino and i always get mixed up with those Asians. Even though i have Latino skin and I'm little bit Mexican. emo
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:16 pm
But every time I go to the US... I SEE MORE ASIANS THAN THERE ARE NORTH AMERICANS...IN NORTH AMERICA. <.< Btw, we latinos have that problem. People confuse us Puerto Ricans for Mexicans..EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK EXTREMELY DIFFERENT.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:30 pm
This reminds me of when I was shopping in Chinatown in Chicago with a Jewish friend. He got carded and the sales clerk was so embarrassed about it, blushing and saying how all those white people look alike and you never can tell how old they are.
I grew up mostly in Honolulu and San Francisco, both of which are fairly ethnically diverse although white and black are still very much minorities here and Jews are even fewer. I think I do fairly well with distinguishing differences, but then I've sort of made a study of it between drawing and taking Anthro. When I went to Minnesota I didn't have any trouble telling one white person from another and can generally tell the difference between things like German and Swedish.
I agree with warrax that people just aren't trying.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:13 pm
Warrax1 Oh, I've heard this statement before. I suppose the theory Cleo has given does make sense. However, there is a lack of effort on the part of those who make such a claim, as all things are easily distinguishable if you try. To clarify, the concept of a fusiform face area is not a theory, nor is the fact that people can best distinguish between people of the race they see the most of, even if it's not their own race. If you've seen 10 caucasian people in your life, you've seen a limited amount of variability in faces. You don't know which features can have more variation (size and shape of noses, position of eyes, etc). You don't see where detail comes into place. That's different if you've seen 1,000 different caucasian faces. You've seen a ton of variety. You've seen the different nuances and you know what to look for (automatically/unconsciously). The more we look at something, the more we can distinguish their features. Several people in this thread have stated that sometimes they can't tell people of various races apart. Does that make them lazy or racist? No, of course not.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:21 pm
CleoSombra Warrax1 Oh, I've heard this statement before. I suppose the theory Cleo has given does make sense. However, there is a lack of effort on the part of those who make such a claim, as all things are easily distinguishable if you try. To clarify, the concept of a fusiform face area is not a theory, nor is the fact that people can best distinguish between people of the race they see the most of, even if it's not their own race. If you've seen 10 caucasian people in your life, you've seen a limited amount of variability in faces. You don't know which features can have more variation (size and shape of noses, position of eyes, etc). You don't see where detail comes into place. That's different if you've seen 1,000 different caucasian faces. You've seen a ton of variety. You've seen the different nuances and you know what to look for (automatically/unconsciously). The more we look at something, the more we can distinguish their features. Several people in this thread have stated that sometimes they can't tell people of various races apart. Does that make them lazy or racist? No, of course not. Perhaps not, but it still hurts a bit. But you have to agree that it is possible that both laziness and racism is the case. =/ RL Example: "You're a twin. And all Asians look the same. I don't care. I don't give a crap about you and your name." neutral
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:22 pm
  Just looking for clarification on the use of the statement in the title: was it meant to imply: -not being able to tell the difference between Asians from different countries/areas or -not being able to tell individuals apart
I feel like each implication could lead to very different discussions.
But the body text in the OP does make sense. If you have less exposure to some sort of group you'll have a harder time identifying variation with said group. Like for example: random person looking at a rock/mineral collection may be like "oh look, a bunch of rocks", while someone who spends time looking at rocks will be able to identify the differences and won't think of them as simply rocks.
Also, in the case of humans I feel people are more likely to notice the big differences that set themselves apart from another person as opposed to noticing the smaller differences that set that individual from another individual.
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