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 Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:47 pm
Actually, when you fight PKMN on the wild, you gain Effort points toward a certain area, say if you defeat a Wigglypuff, you gain effort points toward Phyisical attacks... While using Rare Candy, you don't. It's better to level up in the wild or against trainings then using Rare Candys because you won't get as many point or whatever. It's really confusing. You also have to consider Macho Braces and Pokesorus (spelling?) as well, which also boost the stats your pkmn gains... rofl the same goes for Monster Rancher whe you have your Monster train in a certain field, they'll gain x amount of points. Like of your monster trains pulling a carte, they may gain extra speed and strength... But I don't think anything ever lowered your stats....... >___> I'm for the one point sacrifice...
Back to Bleach...
I just like deaths, that's why I said it, it makes t more realistic I suppose? Or maybe it's just my liking for animes that kill of Characters rather then having 29848 of them... >_< I forgot about Ciel and Nana... But they're only Lts. Lol jk. I understand what you mean though, Anna... I wasn't thinking thoroughly about that statement...
I'm not fighting it... I am trying to hammer it out so it'll be fair to everyone as to why they're getting blessedcursed with these abilities.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:15 pm
I wasn't talking about stats for Pokemon (though I am well aware of what RCs do to stats)... I was using an analogy of sorts. Take my last post, replace Rare Candy with "stat point", Charizard with "Physical Strength", and Mewtwo with "Speed". Two for one makes no sense. It's like... oh here, you can excel here as long as you suck royally at everything else. Why can't it just be one for one like it's always been? neutral For exceeding for any captain except Yuki and those that only get one specialization (12/10), that's three extra points (12/10 and 11/10) that can go over, period. But to use those three points to go over means you lose six points overall and three points from the starting amount; 48 + 3 - 3(2) = 45. (I hope you understand that, because I can't explain it any other way than a big diagram. gonk The captain gets WEAKER. Again; Makes. No. Sense. And the one or two specialization fields thing is based on my list that can be found here; ]http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?page=3&t=19495329#259857937
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:46 pm
I'm not against your idea... The two point sacrifice exceed plan is pretty farfetched... >_>
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:58 am
*concedes his point*
sweatdrop
So, what else is to be discussed?
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:48 am
That was it? Now it's just a matter of agreeing with how I wanted the Mask thing to work, the second suggestion, not the first, because the second puts the first to shame. At least this way not all vizard will be equal, and not all of them will be able to wtfpwn everyone in sight, like Ichi was concerned with~
Duration of Mask being equivalent to points used.
I think this is how it should go, since like I said earlier, the strongest Vizard being as strong or slightly weaker than the CC makes pretty good sense.
F Rank: 2 posts | +2 Points
D Rank: 3 posts | +3 Points
C Rank: 4 posts | +4 Points
B Rank: 5 posts | +5 Points
A Rank: 6 posts | +6 Points
S Rank: 7 posts | +7 Points
As for the exceed thingy, I already have a few of the descriptions lying around for use....
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:36 am
What RPC is going to be what class?
Like I don't mine Tetsu being a C class - or is it that all new Vizards are starting out as F rank?
And not to get sidetracked, but I never understood why S was the highest class. I guess because of the word super?
Edit: OH! And... we need to discuss what are the limitations of the Exceed Stat thing-y. . . What'll be preventing a Captain from having 0 in Kido and 20 in Speed? Like how many points are allowed to one stat so it can be exceeded....? Just checking.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:46 am
Slight adjustment to the points, which came after talking to Dante.
F Rank: 1 post | +1 Point
D Rank: 2 posts | +2 Points
C Rank: 3 posts | +3 Points
B Rank: 4 posts | +4 Points
A Rank: 5 posts | +5 Points
S Rank: 6 posts | +6 Points
I think all but Hei are going to be B-class since they're basically going to get a year and some change of training with Hei himself. Unless of course you guys are able to decide amongst yourselves that you don't mind having different ranks. I'm fine with that, because it would show how each of them would progress differently. You said Tetsu is fine as C-Class (B-Class now), so I'm curious as to what rank the others would be comfortable with. I see Hibiki as probably growing faster, so perhaps A-Rank for him....
Also, no clue why that is. I've always wondered why myself. neutral
Limit is 12/10 in primary specialization and 11/10 in secondary specialization, with the exception of the CC, who gets 12/10 in any field.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:50 am
Did someone say side-track?
Oddly enough, X-rank is probably higher ranking than S-rank. Also, why are grades A, B, C, D, and F?
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:53 am
Oh, ok... Well.. I'm pretty sure Tetsunosuke would progress the slowest, I am still deciding on a personality for his inner Hollow, but I have a feeling he'd be a douche either way. rofl
But that clarifies most of it, I suppose... So when a Vizard uses their mask, are they capable of going beyond 12? Also, how many stats can be exceeded? Or are you just going with that older exceed plan, and just saying that certain Captains can have a certain field the exceed in? Just checking...
Because E is lame sounding? xd
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:04 am
No, not going beyond 12/10, but they are capable of going to 12/10 on their secondary specialization, though this depends on what it is. By that I mean a Vizard mask wouldn't increase swordsmanship without a really good reason (ie, growing two extra arms with the mask, which is still weird). The only stats to be exceeded by regular Captains are those listed in the list I made a while ago. ]http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?page=3&t=19495329#259857937
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:27 pm
So for example, Tetsu can have 12/10 in Zan and 11/10 in PS, and when he uses his mask, his points in PS go up by 1 and whatever else I chose it to go up in, right?
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:33 pm
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:55 am
Going to put up a few ranks to get started or whatever.... F-Class | 1 pt -
D-Class | 2 pts -
C-Class | 3 pts - Nu
B-Class | 4 pts - Tetsunosuke - Hideki
A-Class | 5 pts - Hibiki
S-Class | 6 pts - Hei I think this is pretty reasonable, mostly just by looking at stats.
The reason I gave Nu the lowest is because only PS, Speed, and Reiatsu are upped by the Mask. Nu does not have Reiatsu to begin with, so no point in adding points there. She's already got 15/10 in Speed, so the only thing left to increase is PS and that would put her at 13/10, making her powerful enough in her own right with the mask on.
Hideki doesn't employ PS all that much, and already gets a boost from his arms, so I see no reason for him to add PS points with the mask. After that, he has Reiatsu at 13, which he can choose to max to 15/10 and give Agility 2 points, or however he wants to do that, making him decently powerful enough in his own right.
Ichi said he wanted that rank, so he got it.
Hibiki has no such flexibility because he can only go to 10/10 in Speed, PS, and Reiatsu. with 5 points, he can do as he wishes from there. Also, plot-wise, he's going to be a complete a** to Hei, which will cause him to go harder on Hibiki and make him progress faster.
And that's that.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:00 am
PoooooooowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!~
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e-erm....
Yeah, I am fine with this^^
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