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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:21 pm
ok, I'm no one to judge but I want to let you know that I do not think that you should get married to a woman, let alone in a masjid. ok, so homosexuality is definitely against Islam, and I don't really want to judge here or offend anyone .. so I'm going to send you a link that can probably explain things more http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/homosexuality.htm
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:16 pm
You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:17 am
Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:30 am
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:37 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:02 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:22 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. If you believe in a loving, omnipotent, eternal Creator, then no. His law becomes more important then your desire, because He is worthy of you sacrificing your desire to Him. If your God is more important to you then your own life, then you should be willing to do anything for Him, including not marry a woman.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:34 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. If you believe in a loving, omnipotent, eternal Creator, then no. His law becomes more important then your desire, because He is worthy of you sacrificing your desire to Him. If your God is more important to you then your own life, then you should be willing to do anything for Him, including not marry a woman.
* Also, you mentioned an all loving creator. This might be a stretch, but Allah is not all loving what-so-ever. He is loving to all his believes. The others could die for all he cares. Not to mention if your creator WAS all loving, he would love you for your sexuality with your own species. *
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:57 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Are you this certain person? Following in her shoes?
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs. What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. If you believe in a loving, omnipotent, eternal Creator, then no. His law becomes more important then your desire, because He is worthy of you sacrificing your desire to Him. If your God is more important to you then your own life, then you should be willing to do anything for Him, including not marry a woman.
* Also, you mentioned an all loving creator. This might be a stretch, but Allah is not all loving what-so-ever. He is loving to all his believes. The others could die for all he cares. Not to mention if your creator WAS all loving, he would love you for your sexuality with your own species. *No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:22 pm
Captain_Shinzo But if your god refuses rights or powers you feel is with you and you should have, than by all means ignore the rules of your creater. While this does work in many other religions it's kinda hard to do so in the Abrahamic religion where the God in question is defined as the 3Omni's. This being is going to know better. Quote: * Also, you mentioned an all loving creator. This might be a stretch, but Allah is not all loving what-so-ever. He is loving to all his believes. The others could die for all he cares. Not going to touch that one. I don't know enough about Islam to comment. Quote: Not to mention if your creator WAS all loving, he would love you for your sexuality with your own species. * I'm not sure how Islam regards it, but in more conservative Christianity, such behavior is considered contrary to the natural order and a sickness of sorts. As Christians are starting to become more aware of homosexuality being normal and not a sickness. There has been movement to reconcile this new understanding with scripture and the nature of a 3Omni's God and we have started to see some advancement in that many Anglicans and some Lutherans will bless homosexual marriages. There's even a few dissident Eastern Orthodox Churches that will bless gay marriages though those are very rare to find. Maybe something like this will eventually happen in Islam though telling religious leaders, of any religion, that they've been "doin' it wrong" typically doesn't go over very well, even with good reasons and justifications.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:16 am
xxEternallyBluexx No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink. ...I wish you the best of luck in your future marriage. confused So if you don't accept everything about them, what do you do when they do something you don't like? Tell them to change? Ask for divorce?
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:31 am
Shiori Miko xxEternallyBluexx No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink. ...I wish you the best of luck in your future marriage. confused So if you don't accept everything about them, what do you do when they do something you don't like? Tell them to change? Ask for divorce? cheap shot. By your logic a woman or man has no right to seek help or leave an abusive relationship.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:12 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. ya, as much as I hate to admit, you are right
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:26 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. no, not at all.. after all.. your creator did make you.. if he never created you... you wouldn't be here.. it's really selfish to put your desires before Him.
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