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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:10 pm


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i used to do green tea alot til i found out how unhealthy sodium flouride is. xd

Tea doesn't have sodium flouride unless it's added after being brewed.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:13 pm


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i used to do green tea alot til i found out how unhealthy sodium flouride is. xd

Tea doesn't have sodium flouride unless it's added after being brewed.

http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:28 pm


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http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html

That website says there is more fluoride in rice, peas, yams, beets, spinach and beef. It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.

That's pretty unscientific. 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:38 pm


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http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html

That website says there is more fluoride in rice, peas, yams, beets, spinach and beef. It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.

That's pretty unscientific. 3nodding
fine lol i didnt search hard for a reputable link right there EDIT: actually not necesarily imma double check the link

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:43 pm


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http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html

That website says there is more fluoride in rice, peas, yams, beets, spinach and beef. It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.

That's pretty unscientific. 3nodding
plants absorb fetilizers, which can be sodium flouride, AND you misread the beef thing, enough said.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:48 pm


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plants absorb fetilizers, which can be sodium flouride
Can isn't the same thing as "always" though, so if you're really worried about it you can always buy organic tea.

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AND you misread the beef thing, enough said.

9.0-14.0mg/kg for Mech. De-bond Pork
2.0-3.0 mg/kg for Hand De-boned Pork

14.0-42mg/kg for Mech.De-boned Beef
2.0-4.0mg/kg for Hand De-boned Beef

No- I didn't misread it. The website is saying that it magically reduces the fluoride if it's hand cut.
And it also says that the high fluoride beef has more than a cup of tea.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:00 pm


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plants absorb fetilizers, which can be sodium flouride
Can isn't the same thing as "always" though, so if you're really worried about it you can always buy organic tea.

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AND you misread the beef thing, enough said.

9.0-14.0mg/kg for Mech. De-bond Pork
2.0-3.0 mg/kg for Hand De-boned Pork

14.0-42mg/kg for Mech.De-boned Beef
2.0-4.0mg/kg for Hand De-boned Beef

No- I didn't misread it. The website is saying that it magically reduces the fluoride if it's hand cut.
And it also says that the high fluoride beef has more than a cup of tea.
you clearly said "It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.
" key words, handcut instead of processed beef magically has MORE flouride in it.

But theres a reason for that too, the machines could get disinfected with sodium flouride so rotten meat juice doesnt spoil the rest of it, theres alot of things that could be why it has more when its from the machine.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:03 pm


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you clearly said "It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.
" key words, handcut instead of processed beef magically has MORE flouride in it.

But theres a reason for that too, the machines could get disinfected with sodium flouride so rotten meat juice doesnt spoil the rest of it, theres alot of things that could be why it has more when its from the machine.

My point is that 1- it's bad science, since it's claiming that just how the meat is processed is changing the content and 2- tea has less fluoride than most of the popular veggies, which means avoiding tea because of this one website is silly. rolleyes

I like good science that really researches longterm effects of things instead of using fear to scare people into being sheep.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:09 pm


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you clearly said "It's also saying that if you handcut your beef instead of getting it processed- the beef magically has more fluoride in it.
" key words, handcut instead of processed beef magically has MORE flouride in it.

But theres a reason for that too, the machines could get disinfected with sodium flouride so rotten meat juice doesnt spoil the rest of it, theres alot of things that could be why it has more when its from the machine.

My point is that 1- it's bad science, since it's claiming that just how the meat is processed is changing the content and 2- tea has less fluoride than most of the popular veggies, which means avoiding tea because of this one website is silly. rolleyes

I like good science that really researches longterm effects of things instead of using fear to scare people into being sheep.
i used to have green tea alot, i got the flouride marks in my teeth even because of it, at least know what you are talking about, and its not from jsut this oen site, many sites accross the web agree, yeah yur 'scientific' show me a link to show green tea doesnt contain it. I'll show you their logical fallacies, if they have any.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:13 pm


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i used to have green tea alot, i got the flouride marks in my teeth even because of it,


So why did you get the marks when most of the world drinks it second only to water without the same effect?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:15 pm


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i used to have green tea alot, i got the flouride marks in my teeth even because of it,


So why did you get the marks when most of the world drinks it second only to water without the same effect?
different tea types, and you didnt measure everyones mouths did you? stop being ridiculous.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:24 pm


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different tea types,
Tea is a plant like coffee.

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and you didnt measure everyones mouths did you? stop being ridiculous.



By the way- your source was part of a Google Propaganda sprint.
Here's the rebuttal- complete with a citation from the Journal of American Medicine.

It's absurd to say that there is enough sodium fluoride in a thing of tea to kill most people when people drink 6x that much in a day with no side effects.Fluoride Poisoning and toxisity levels listed here compared to what your site says is in an average meal that has a serving of beef, a spinach salad, saffron rice and a cup of tea.

Oh cool! I saw another problem with the site- it's confusing Sodium Fluoride with Calcium Fluoride and probably some other kinds of fluorides which are inert.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:52 pm


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different tea types,
Tea is a plant like coffee.

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and you didnt measure everyones mouths did you? stop being ridiculous.



By the way- your source was part of a Google Propaganda sprint.
Here's the rebuttal- complete with a citation from the Journal of American Medicine.

It's absurd to say that there is enough sodium fluoride in a thing of tea to kill most people when people drink 6x that much in a day with no side effects.Fluoride Poisoning and toxisity levels listed here compared to what your site says is in an average meal that has a serving of beef, a spinach salad, saffron rice and a cup of tea.

Oh cool! I saw another problem with the site- it's confusing Sodium Fluoride with Calcium Fluoride and probably some other kinds of fluorides which are inert.
i never said it kills you. but then why are most adult peoples pineal glands calcified? The pineal gland absorbs sodium flouride the most of all of the parts in our body (or so i've heard). But that i say assuming your sources are correct, let me reveiw them.

"Sodium Fluoride is Synthetic.

Natural Green Tea is Organic." They fail to mention pesticides in use contain sodium flouride, helping cause the plant to absorb it better. So thats only true of organic green tea, but even organic foods is allowed to be 5% inorganic, more than enough to account for the sodium flouride.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:10 pm


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i never said it kills you. but then why are most adult peoples pineal glands calcified? The pineal gland absorbs sodium flouride the most of all of the parts in our body (or so i've heard). But that i say assuming your sources are correct, let me reveiw them.


But calcification needs calcium- what's next? Telling people they should avoid calcium?
And like my roommate says- "correlation isn't causation."

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They fail to mention pesticides in use contain sodium flouride, helping cause the plant to absorb it better. So thats only true of organic green tea, but even organic foods is allowed to be 5% inorganic, more than enough to account for the sodium flouride.

So you're admitting the problem isn't tea- it's pesticides, so the whole rant is pointless because you probably consume more in your spinach than you would in a cup of tea.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:48 pm


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Esiris
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i used to do green tea alot til i found out how unhealthy sodium flouride is. xd

Tea doesn't have sodium flouride unless it's added after being brewed.

http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html


This website doesn't seem that reliable to me. There is a works cited page but the articles are kind of old. The most recent articles are from 1999. The oldest articles are from 1937.

I would beileve that sodium floride in Green Tea is a health issue if the information came from reliable scholarly or peer-reviewed journals with more recent data and findings.
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